Dwarf/Little Person M4/V4 Morph NOW AVAILABLE!!!

Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 3035 Location: Sane Insanity

Finally, after nearly half a year, I've got it done.

This is a scale setting to approximate the proportions of individuals with achondroplasia, the most common cause of dwarfism. It works for both M4 and V4, and will not overwrite any but the relevant morphs:
SCLHeadSize
SCLLegsLength
SCLFeetSize
PBMShouldersThickness
PBMThighsThickness
PBMThighsTone

I'll add a readme eventually… Very Happy

Yokasobi's Dwarf Morph

Further demo images:
http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?p=1950990#1950990
http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?p=1950996#1950996
http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?p=1986085#1986085 Thanks Syndaryl!
http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?p=2149222#2149222
http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?p=2278962#2278962

Posted:Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:48 pm

Someone did this for M3 as a freebie and someone else just released a freebie along these lines for m4/v4.

Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 3035 Location: Sane Insanity

Before you pop my balloon…

Show me.

Please?

My Freebies · Posted:Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:11 pm

Yokasobi wrote:

Before you pop my balloon…

Show me.

Please?

You might want to fix your signature link. There's an extra http// in it so it doesn't work.

Code:

http://http//forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=120118

Code:

http://forum.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=120118

Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 4463 Location: Las Vegas, NV

Yokasobi wrote:

Before you pop my balloon…

Show me.

Please?

Well I'm the one who did a Little Person Freebie for M3... http://www.sharecg.com/v/31761/Poser/Little-People-for-M3-plus-Texture

Not sure who's done the M4 freebie that was mentioned.

Here's the promo renders

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Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 3035 Location: Sane Insanity

@Flamewing— thanks for that correction! I've updated it.

@DraagonStorm— Very nice. I've downloaded it and will probably use it somewhat. Yours is fairly tall, about 4" taller than mine (just guessing, based on M4 and M3 being within 0.5" of each other).

Until the Mil 4 freebie surfaces, I'll still go on.

I'm not sure, but maybe KrosRhodes was thinking about the Marvelous Morphs pack for M4 and V4, although it isn't free.

I'm planning to do this for both V4 and M4. I also intend to have demo pictures with the figures clothed to show what happens to them. I know that with the MM pack clothing sometimes does strange things (like bunching up on one side and not the other).

In addition to the morphs, I would like to do poses & facial expressions that work with the morphs.

Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 4626

There can never be enough little folks . . . ! Wink

Posted:Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:05 am

Free Size Counts for V4 and M4
by AdamThwaites

http://www.most-digital-creations.com/freestuff.htm

And the other one I mentioned has been posted above already.

Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 3035 Location: Sane Insanity

I'll use both of them and post a comparison.

Joined: 09 Oct 2003 Posts: 799

Yakasobi,
More dwarf morphs are always welcome. One area I would recommend concentrating on is how well the elbows and knees bend. If you are doing it by scaling alone be watchful of the joint centers.

Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 3035 Location: Sane Insanity

Ok, I'll watch that. Like I said, I'll demo the different ones pothed and clothed… er, posed and closed… er… Very Happy

Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 3035 Location: Sane Insanity

Here's the promised posed example:

This one worked ok, the only thing was that the standard Daz poses have scale transform settings in them, so I had to make a non-scaling one.

No problems with the joints being in the wrong spots.

Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 3035 Location: Sane Insanity

Here's the clothed version (DAZ Valiant tunic, boots, pants) of the previous.

No change in pose or morph, just made the clothing visible.

It seems that the only problems are with the clothes. I was able to get the dwarf's left tunic arm fix by changing the y-scale, but the right arm didn't work the same (notice the bump).

It seems that scaling is not built into the clothing.

Joined: 09 Oct 2003 Posts: 799

This is what I was referring to in the legs, note the calf area. Not normal.
The elbows have a bump.

<a target=_blank href="postimages/origimage_1_1951018.jpg"><img border=0 src="postimages/image_1_1951018.jpg"></a>

Joined: 04 Aug 2007 Posts: 3035 Location: Sane Insanity

What is the figure? I'm guessing this is in Poser.

Posted:Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:49 am

Yokasobi wrote:

I'm planning to do this for both V4 and M4. I also intend to have demo pictures with the figures clothed to show what happens to them. I know that with the MM pack clothing sometimes does strange things (like bunching up on one side and not the other).

In addition to the morphs, I would like to do poses & facial expressions that work with the morphs.

Since comments were made about my set, I have to make sure the information is accurate.

The Marvelous Morphs set comes with both a V4 and an M4 version, and all existing poses (and expressions) for each figure work very well with this set.
Admittedly since this is an extreme morph from the standard M4 shape that poses are generally designed for, there will be some tweaking required. But that would be true for any such set, and expected.

Alot of care was taken to ensure all joints bend and move properly without distortion.

The clothing morphs included in the set work well with all clothing items, and on the instances where the clothing sets have problems in how they are made, Lyrra took the time to include tools in this set to ensure that even those could be made to fit properly. There is even a tutorial as to how to do that included in the set.

Rawn

(this render was made in poser)

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Posted:Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:25 am

We did our best to make our Marvelous Body set as flexible and easy to use as we could. But .. there are program limitations at play here in poser, and totally different issues popping up in DS.

In poser it can cause all sorts of problems to pose scaled conforming clothing. It is possible to work around them. You'll find that since the rotation points don't match up between clothing and figure sometimes at pose the clothing pops loose and needs to be scaled a bit to fit again. But unfortunately, since this is an issue that the owners of poser have known of for some time and have not yet fixed I'm afraid we're stuck with what we have for the time being.

In DS the issue seems to be the clothings setup itself .. DS uses some smooth scaling zones which are generally ignored by poser clothing makers since they don't affect poser all that much. The result is various items not propagating the scaling smoothly along body parts in DS. We saw a LOT of this adding Freak morphs into clothing in the last month or so. In DS its easy enough to adjust on the fly if you have the setup tools, but since most people don't, I've found gently nudging the scale of the bodyparts sometimes makes it start working again.

Rawn was originally going to release this set with just the morphs and maybe my magnets to fit, but I convinced him some sort of fitting solution was needed for clothing. So .. I did the best I could with the limitations in both programs. I'm afraid that leaves some adjustments up to you guys when you use the sets. But at least you aren't starting at zero with nekked dwarves and giants and heroes, eh? *lol*

I can, if you guys like write up a 'how to make a scale pose' tutorial so you guys can make quick fit poses for clothing you use often once you fit it once. Needless to say this isn't a pose type Poser makes natively (oh would it were so easy!)

Lyrra

Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 2033 Location: Florida

That would be awesome Lyrra if you have the time. You two have put so much loving work into this set already, that you've gone above and beyond the norm already. Smile

Thanks to both of you for that!

Joined: 09 Oct 2003 Posts: 799

Yakasobi:
That is M3 with the Little People pose.

RawArt:
your pose set looks real good. Is it for sale here or your site?

Never mind, I just found it and picked it up Very Happy

Joined: 21 Aug 2006 Posts: 1040 Location: the lost castle

Gojira2006 wrote:

There can never be enough little folks . . . ! Wink

i have to agree. i love little people and find it so much fun working with them.
i am loving the little gnome, lepra guy from rosity. soooooooo much fun.

good luck with your project, Yokasobi. be sure to keep us posted as work progresses.

-ash Smile