Bitrock Installers trigger IPConfig

Posted:Sat Mar 15, 2008 12:30 pm

I was watching my installers and wondered why the Bitrock Installer takes longer to come up. Someone mentioned that it was searching for Poser. I had to wonder at that because there is a search button.

So when I started having delays in the installers I pulled up Task manager and watched IPConfig.exe come up on three occasions. And Please don't say it was Realplayer as I was watching the behavior with the older installers.

Joined: 02 Dec 2003 Posts: 483 Location: The Pudding Isles

Bitrock, is the the new installer, the old installer or the really old installer? Any case, that certainly explains why it triggers some A/V programs.

EDIT I see you mean the new one.

Joined: 09 Oct 2003 Posts: 1239

IPconfig is nothing to do with AV Software...

Joined: 02 Dec 2003 Posts: 483 Location: The Pudding Isles

It should also nothing be nothing to do with installers either. Why does the bitrock installer need our IP settings? That is just the sort of odd program behaviour that sets off some AV programs. That is what i was trying to say.

Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 321

Given that DAZ seems to use "off the shelf" software to run things (and why not?) and then customises them as needed (see the Art Zone discussions for examples), is it possible that they simply haven't configured things "properly"? By which I mean, maybe the default installation kit includes IP checking and they simply haven't turned it off.

Have you asked DAZ about this?

[Edited for a bit more clarity.]

Posted:Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:57 am

Yeah, and got the canned message about getting a response in 1-2 business days.

Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 1785

gw3972 wrote:

Given that DAZ seems to use "off the shelf" software to run things (and why not?) and then customises them as needed (see the Art Zone discussions for examples), is it possible that they simply haven't configured things "properly"? By which I mean, maybe the default installation kit includes IP checking and they simply haven't turned it off.

Have you asked DAZ about this?

[Edited for a bit more clarity.]

Or it may not be a configurable setting.

Posted:Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:02 am

That's not what I'm getting from Bitrock

Quote:

BitRock InstallBuilder and InstallBuilder for Qt® allow you to create easy to use installers that can be run in GUI, text and unattended modes. InstallBuilder supports a wide range of platforms, including Windows, Linux, Mac OS X, FreeBSD, Solaris, AIX, HP-UX and IRIX.

JWideman wrote:

gw3972 wrote:

Given that DAZ seems to use "off the shelf" software to run things (and why not?) and then customises them as needed (see the Art Zone discussions for examples), is it possible that they simply haven't configured things "properly"? By which I mean, maybe the default installation kit includes IP checking and they simply haven't turned it off.

Have you asked DAZ about this?

[Edited for a bit more clarity.]

Or it may not be a configurable setting.

Joined: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 713 Location: oregon

been installing several daz things with different installers, they've had enough of them, & i keep getting little boxes flashing & disappearing having to do with the registry. why they need access to my registry is beyond me.

Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 321

JWideman wrote:

gw3972 wrote:

Given that DAZ seems to use "off the shelf" software to run things (and why not?) and then customises them as needed (see the Art Zone discussions for examples), is it possible that they simply haven't configured things "properly"? By which I mean, maybe the default installation kit includes IP checking and they simply haven't turned it off.

Have you asked DAZ about this?

[Edited for a bit more clarity.]

Or it may not be a configurable setting.

I looked at their documentation - it is definitely configurable.

Posted:Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:48 am

Well, perhaps my comment would fit better in one of the dedicated complaint threads but I'm not at all happy with the new installer. I run Norton Internet Security and it wants me to authorize each and every execution of every new DAZ product I install and I can't seem to tell it not to. Also the new installer has a problem installing things to my "runtime" on different disks (complains about not being able to put in a link of some sort).

I don't like the idea that the installer appears to be trying to "phone home".

Joined: 28 Nov 2007 Posts: 791

If it's using ipconfig, that probably explains why I haven't been able to install V4.2 under Linux. I guess I'll need to install to a separate runtime using real Windows and copy it over to the Linux machine. Sad

Posted:Sun Mar 16, 2008 10:36 am

Given what I have seen, Leather, I'd say it's appropriate for here.

I'm not happy either, though I plan on keeping my cool on this one.

Joined: 05 Sep 2006 Posts: 321

Have you tried an installation without any network connection to see if it complains? It would then be interesting to watch if something "calls home" once you re-establish the connection.

If nothing happens in either case, then it is almost certainly benign (other than slowing things down).

If something happens after you reconnect, then we know there's an issue that needs explaining by DAZ.

Posted:Sun Mar 16, 2008 11:07 am

LeatherGryphon wrote:

Well, perhaps my comment would fit better in one of the dedicated complaint threads but I'm not at all happy with the new installer. I run Norton Internet Security and it wants me to authorize each and every execution of every new DAZ product I install and I can't seem to tell it not to. Also the new installer has a problem installing things to my "runtime" on different disks (complains about not being able to put in a link of some sort).

I don't like the idea that the installer appears to be trying to "phone home".

Exact same problem here (and one i posted a thread on when it happened). Norton freaking about installer. According to Norton and having tested with the free ZoneAlarm firewall too i get the same results.... the installer wishes to have "access" in whatever capacity that may be.

Each individual installer Rolling Eyes

But then i dont let Daz Studio have access either. Programs that are not interent based should have no reason to want to go online. If i want an update i'll go look, i dont want the software "trying to do sh** without my say so".

I'd like to see what the official explanation on this one is Inspection

Joined: 09 Oct 2003 Posts: 1177 Location: Austin Texas

Lilliana wrote:

I was watching my installers and wondered why the Bitrock Installer takes longer to come up. Someone mentioned that it was searching for Poser. I had to wonder at that because there is a search button.

So when I started having delays in the installers I pulled up Task manager and watched IPConfig.exe come up on three occasions. And Please don't say it was Realplayer as I was watching the behavior with the older installers.

Your right about it wanting access to ipconfig I use ZoneAlarm and every time I install with the Bitrock installer I get a security alert saying that it is trying to launch ipconfig.

Joined: 09 Oct 2003 Posts: 1177 Location: Austin Texas

Ducksy wrote:

LeatherGryphon wrote:

Well, perhaps my comment would fit better in one of the dedicated complaint threads but I'm not at all happy with the new installer. I run Norton Internet Security and it wants me to authorize each and every execution of every new DAZ product I install and I can't seem to tell it not to. Also the new installer has a problem installing things to my "runtime" on different disks (complains about not being able to put in a link of some sort).

I don't like the idea that the installer appears to be trying to "phone home".

Exact same problem here (and one i posted a thread on when it happened). Norton freaking about installer. According to Norton and having tested with the free ZoneAlarm firewall too i get the same results.... the installer wishes to have "access" in whatever capacity that may be.

Each individual installer Rolling Eyes

But then i dont let Daz Studio have access either. Programs that are not interent based should have no reason to want to go online. If i want an update i'll go look, i dont want the software "trying to do sh** without my say so".

I'd like to see what the official explanation on this one is Inspection

I think the reason for each installer is that ,at least for Zone Alarm ,it uses the name of the download and sees it as a entirely new application

Joined: 23 Apr 2007 Posts: 429

Well, the Mac version is not trying to phone home at all. Just thought I'd give you a datapoint, since this had me curious.

Posted:Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:19 pm

Robert Freise wrote:

I think the reason for each installer is that ,at least for Zone Alarm ,it uses the name of the download and sees it as a entirely new application

I reckon your right on that one. I just wish these installers wouldnt do it.

Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 2694 Location: London, U.K.

yep, the installer does indeed call IPConfig - my firewall stops it every time as malware - i had to add it to safe list, but it doesn't matter because every installer has got a different name....

PLEASE DAZ get rid of that unfriendly installer!! The previous one was far better!!!