OT ..Go Away critics ..Valerian is amazing!!
wolf359
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Hi I just saw the Bluray of "Valerian &the city of a thousand planets"
And I must say what a visual treat!
Sure the Formulaic Sexual tension between the male &female leads was tedious
And perhaps it failed to reach audiences outside the fans of the comics &graphic novels
upon which it was based
I DONT CARE!!!
This movie had what I love about Sci fi,...
hundreds of Aliens,Characters tech&Cutures !!!....and scenes out in space!!
I beleive the Director was the Same Luc Besson who did the Awesome
"Fifth element" movie back in the 90's
If you want some Awesome Sci-fi Visuals, ignore the Critics& poor box office performance and see this film.
very inspiring for us Sci fi animators.
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As well you shouldn't care what anyone thinks, LOL I plan on picking it up once released on the 21th (don't use Amazon Video or iTunes)
There are plenty of movies I love that critics and even fans didn't care for, but that never factors in to my enjoyment of something. Disneys John Carter, one of my fav movies and I sooo wanted a sequel even though Disney considered it a flop.
I like John Carter as well and I plan on watching Valerian when it comes out. I own the 5th Element as well.
My wife and I saw Valerian last night. Visually beautiful and creative... I loved it even with more than a bit of poor acting. I'd recommend it to anyone who liked Fifth Element.
So many interesting looking characters
There was a film critic for the New Yorker who always seemed to like movies I hated and hate movies I liked.
I've been waiting for it to be released on Netflix. The preview looks amazing!
yep. I listen to talk radio on the way to work in the morning and every friday they have a movie critic on there talking about the new releases for the week. He is an older man with a thing for obscure indie films and pretty much dumps on big box office titles and anything with violence, gore or destruction which is about 80% of all films released. I have emailed them asking for a new critic that is not biased and able to give a more open and varied view, but no luck so far.
Glad you mentioned this, I like a lot of Luc Besson's work, The Professional, Transporter and Wasabi come to mind, but I hadn't even heard of this film so I'll definitely check it out.
I usually love the visual look of Besson's movies, so I liked Velerian's look very much. John Carter and The Fifth Element also have looks I like. What spoiled those movies for me was the story and for me, story writing is the most important element of any movie. I certainly enjoy watching those movies, but they don't tend to stay on my server for repeated viewings because the story lacks substance. But I am really grateful for these movies that put so many CGI professionals to work.
I was somewhat familiar with the classic French comic, and I really enjoyed the movie. I will buy it when it comes out on DVD/BluRay. It will go on the shelf next to Fifth Element, one of my all-time favorites.
I concur, wolf359, the visuals were stunning and the narrative was captivating. And Cara Delevingne was stunning and captivating. It was also nice to see Herbie Hancock in a cameo.
Actually I personally considered that
mediocre actress one of the weaker elements of the film
(after the singer Riahnana's utterly flat acting)
Maybe it was the personality of the character she played
combined with her terminally pouty, neoteneous appearance.
Still one of the most visually impressive films I have seen in a while.
and the natives of "Mul" reminded me so much of the physical descriptions
of the ancient "Forerunner' race from HALO lore.
I paid to see Valerian in the theaters. There are very few recent big-budget sci-fi films that I am enchanted by, and Valerian is the only one I've seen in 2017 that I loved. It is a visual spectacle in the best sense of the word.
Movie criticism as a professional craft died sometime earlier this century.
What do critics know, "Howard the Duck" was a masterpiece.
Don't know anything about the comic, but enjoyed the film, much more than I was I expecting to.
As a reader of the comic and having seen the French/Japanese animated series that Besson also produced (Valerian Et. Laureline aka Time Jam ) as well as being functionally unable to pass up any screening of the Fifth Element, one of my all time favorite bits of sci-fi fluff, Valerian was one of my most anticipated films for 2017. In the end I was blown away by the visuals but disapointed that Beson didn't choose to start the film at the beginning of the Valerian/Laureline relationship, as that's a much more interesting story than the City arc. Laureline was originally a 16th century French peasant girl that time-traveling Valerian accidentaly saved from dying, causing a massive butterfly effect that undid his own future. Moral quandries ensue. As it stands, lacking that emotional core question, Valerian's a much weaker film than the Fifth Element. That doesn't make it a bad film at all, but it had some mighty big shoes to step into and I don't think the story delivered the knockout punch the material could have provided.
I mean that's what most of the reviews said? the general consensus seemed to be that it was visually spectacular but the plot and main characters were uninspiring, Honestly I think the problem is less reviewers and more the way things seem to need to be categorized into simply good/bad
Lol! I really enjoyed "The Adventures of Pluto Nash".
I haven't been to a movie theater in ages, but it sounds like a good one to put on my wishlist. I loved The Fifth Element, still one of my faves. Loved the first Bladerunner too, and heard the second was pretty good. I keep picking up sci fi stuff in the DAZ store, even though I don't really render or write much sci fi. I do love it though!
It was a beautiful, beautiful movie with zero character development. Not a single arc as far as the eye could see (you could argue for K's girl).
They're paid, generally, to watch movies and give their opinion; some take it a little too far and pan good movies, or ones that are supposed to be humorous, like the tale of the unfortunate fowl in the movie you named. (Yes, I've seen it and it's a real honk)
My wife and I really enjoyed the new Bladerunner. It went a little overboard with sexual imagery and it could have used more action but it was still really enjoyable. The score for it was fantastic. I was reading though that it has been dissapointing as far as the numbers go and it stands to lose the studio $80 million. Yikes!
I would have watched two hours of the casino fight tbh
My problem with today's critics is that many of them don't seem to even watch the movies they are reviewing. I've seen many, many instances where dialogue was misattributed by the critic to a different character, for example. I've also heard critics critique screenplays of films - which is impossible unless they magically have access to the screenplay itself because you cannot infer anything about the screenplay from the finished film. (The screenplay is only the starting point for a film, not a cookbook recipe). There is also a timidity in offering negative thoughts regarding certain properties who possess huge, vocal fanbases.There's also a complete lack of anything approaching a theory of what a good movie ought to be. I like reading older critics like Vincent Canby and Susan Sontag because, even though I might disagree with their individual reviews, they weren't just making arbitrary judgements about whether a film was good or not.
I could say many of the same things about pop music criticism, come to think of it.
Thanks for the new word: neoteny. Actually, I think that's what makes me like to look at her: She reminds me of a Daz character, but I'm a fan of Thorne's characters too.
Saw it at the cinema: loved it. Gonna get the 4K blu ray when it comes out here.
Im kind of anxious to see it now. As soon as I heard that it was a flop (which was the only thing I heard about it) it dropped off my radar. Now im defenitely going to check it out.
When I saw the trailer for this I was like WOW.... and the fact that the same director from 5th Element was on board. I just threw this in my cart as it will be released to the wild on Nov 21st. Can't wait!
I remember a critic completely misinterpreted a scene in Avengers 2 with Dr. Banner and Black Widow. Dove me up the wall.