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Peggy Bundy!!!
aka
Katey Sagal
That's the one! Thank you. Jeez I had totally forgotten she was Peggy Buddy too. There's a blast from the past ????
I did the following character nearly entirely with Zev0's aging morphs (in this case for Genesis 3 Male) and I can vouch for their awesomeness ;). He was pretty thorough, even right down to morphs for knobby fingers...
It does help to have an aging skin to go with the morphs so if you wanted to buy that character set, you could definitely augment them with Zev0's morphs and make your own character :).
Laurie
That looks great!! :)
Laurie
Thanks @AllenArt. Yours was great too, it's the render that made up my mind to get Sydney
Another one with just Sydney (and no tattoos) this time. Can't work out if she is happy she never got tattoos or regrets not getting them and meeting Christian lol
In my headcanon they meet at Sturgis Motercycle Rally. :D
I must admit, I like her without the tats (Christian too) but that's only because the skulls and demons are pretty off-putting to me. If they had left those out I think I'd prefer her with the ink.
Beautiful render, by the way. :)
What skin did you use for him?
Thx.
She looks stunning!
This is gorgeous, and the veins in her hand put it over the top. Is the slight tone to the image a postwork thing? I am a photoshop dummy and beyond brushes, I don't know how to do anything!
OMG...that is so good. The best one I've seen of Sydney yet :)
Laurie
Raiya's Russell for G3M. I think. LOL It's been awhile ;)
Laurie
Here's one of Christian and Sydney - both with Altern8.
quit peeking
Yes, this was my understanding to and reading on, I found that it only happens with the Sydney overlay on OTHER characters. I guess that is understandable, but I do understand how those might want to add the wrinkles to the skin of other characters. So far I think Sydney is the only one that has the HD overlay for that, if I am not mistaken. I have looked at the Aging Morphs package and while effective, they are too strong and pretty much would be good for creating 'old hag' type characters. A great look for an old witch. But what I am looking for is a 'pretty' older look. Alexandra 8 was one I have been eying for a while but she is a bit expensive right now. Even with my Platinum Club status...over $30 just for a base figure is steep. So I am having a hard time making a decision here. Sydney does have her wrinkles in the right places and outside of the orangish skin and the breast issues (which are not totally deal killing), I do like her and can get her base for nearly $10 less than with Alexandra. Overall though, I don't like what the Sydney pro package has to offer and like more what the Alexandra Pro Package offers....but at over $90?!?! Naw. I can do around $60, but over $90 is too much.
The other night I bought this package:
https://www.daz3d.com/ej-daisy-and-malmorda-for-genesis-8-female
I am not happy with it. The Daisy character, the one on the right, I was hoping to get somewhat that look or even better. But after a couple hours of tweaking around, I was not successful. Now I don't mean to scare you, but this was the best I came up with (see attached):
Yeah, I know, pretty scary, huh? Again, great for a witch, but what I want is to make a beautiful older woman.
Can you explain to me how the return procedure works? I didn't even know that was possible. As I would rather return this pack and get Sydney.
I have seen this package, but like I said above, it seems a bit too severe. For an 'old hag' type witch or in the case of your gentleman above, it's great and I might think of it for a future purchase. But I want to create a 'pretty' older woman. Think of Ravenna with a few more wrinkles:
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/deadliestfiction/images/8/88/Ravenna.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180101180451
Yes, I know that aging skin is a two part process one being the skin texture and the other the morphs. As it is I am already considering purchasing Zevo's 'other' package, the Skin Builder for Genesis 8. In fact it is in my inbox right now.
To let you in on my attempts, the second picture below was my attempt with out the wrinkles and aged skin from the Daisy / Malmorda package (see 2nd photo). Again, the results were less than spectacular. The weird thing though is that I think my first attempt was better! She doesn't look aged enough, but she doesn't look pretty either. She looks very homely looking and I don't want that.
YES!! YES!!! This is what I am looking for. Older but pretty. How did you remove that orange tinge to Sydney's skin? I am not fond of the eyebrows and I would change them out, but other than that, this is pretty much what I am looking for. She doesn't look like an old hag or witch (even though she can be), but she is attractive. That is mainly what I am after. After seeing this, I think I am going to get Sydney. Did you use the HD overlay too? BTW, are the hand veins a part of Sydney, or were those added later?
Thanks for the input ladies and gents! Looks like I am returning the Daisy / Malmorda package and getting Sydney instead!
Geo
As usual, @Divamakeup, your skins look fantastic! Well done.
- Greg
Oooh, I think I have him....runs to check...Yes! If it's this one, I have it.
https://www.daz3d.com/russell-hd-for-michael-7
Wow, you really have worked him over! But in a good way,
You can make someone pretty with the aging morphs. Just remember that less is more ;). SMALL increments. Nothing too big. Just slide a morph in very small steps.
Laurie
Sydney looks great. I love the character. I agree with many others on the makeup. I prefer natural women. I watched a really great scifi show this week. A beautiful woman had these god awful green painted eyelids(?!) The makeup made her look freakish.
I think that green eye shadow (and blue, depending), can tend to make most caucasian woman look like a corpse. To me, they tend to draw color out of the face (maybe because I'm so laser focused on the screaming eye shadow....lol). I think neutral colors, golds and pinks look better on most ppl. But LIGHTLY applied ;).
Laurie
Yes, they have a picture on the Aging Morphs package that shows the variation in intensity, but it still looks a bit harsh to me. Would you happen to know if Sydney comes with some adjustable morphs or no?
Thanks,
Geo
Aww Thank you, my friend! That's really nice to hear! <3
Btw, I'm cooking up something that might be of interest to you as a fan of NPR renders. I'll drop you a PM to see if you can give me some suggestions since I know your NPR Kung Fu is strong. :D
It sounds to me that the kind of aging you want you're going to get mostly from normals and hi-def morphs. Fine lines and wrinkles are things that are best gotten on a base figure, like Sydney. You can make any character you want based on Sydney or on her textures. Some of the best ones you might want to look at are Eva, Sydney, Alexandra and maybe Edie. Those are all closer to the age group you're after.
In the image (forgive the grain - I didn't let it finish rendering fully), I didn't even use any aging morphs. There are a few morphs for aging in the base morph pack for Genesis 8 male and female, like a hi-def under eye crease, crows feet, etc. For women in the 45-55 age range, most of the wrinkles are going to be around the eye, maybe some light ones between the brows and maybe a few around the mouth, but not too many elsewhere. I achieved the extra "aging" by just mixing morphs in very small increments.
Laurie
Gorgeous morph work Laurie. Whats your subd at? Three, four?
Oh, she is in my home town. :-D
It sounds to me that the kind of aging you want you're going to get mostly from normals and hi-def morphs. Fine lines and wrinkles are things that are best gotten on a base figure, like Sydney. You can make any character you want based on Sydney or on her textures. Some of the best ones you might want to look at are Eva, Sydney, Alexandra and maybe Edie. Those are all closer to the age group you're after.
In the image (forgive the grain - I didn't let it finish rendering fully), I didn't even use any aging morphs. There are a few morphs for aging in the base morph pack for Genesis 8 male and female, like a hi-def under eye crease, crows feet, ect. For women in the 45-55 age range, most of the wrinkles are going to be around the eye and maybe a few around the mouth, but not too many elsewhere. I achieved the extra "aging" by just mixing morphs in very small increments.
Laurie
Whatever Eva loads at since I used her as the starting point. 4 I think? :)
Laurie
Hello Laurie,
Yes, I like a light to medium aging. Usually between 40 an 65 ish. Eva is a bit too young still and only is a bit older than most of the women featured on Daz. Alexandra is more what I am after, but I am willing to go a bit older too. I am not sure if I could age her more with what I currently have. Sydney seems to come in at the right level, but I also want the ability to pull back the aging on her to make her bit younger too. Edie is getting into the 70+ arena and I just don't like her look. I would say that Alexandra and Sydney are my favorites in terms of a 'pretty' older woman that has her wrinkles in the right places.
That woman you created is awesome! Pretty much what I am looking for. Think too, Sandra Bullock. She is aging beautifully and I love her all around look. One thing I have noticed that Sydney has in comparison to Ms Bullock. That little crease in the middle of the nose tip. I love that! It is one of Sandra's defining features. She has a large nose, but I like that too. I am a fanatic of large, but pretty noses on a woman. Almost all the women I have created with Daz so far have a large (but pretty) nose. Only the last woman I just finished creating has a narrower nose, but it is still long. So Sydney, right off the bat wins it in the nose department. However, I do want to get rid of that orange look to her skin. It looks so much better with a natural look as with your creation and also the other one a bit up that I liked.
I have found out how to do a return, but I don't think that the people at Daz are there as Ihave not received a response as of yet. I guess they do not work weekends! But I wanted to return that one package and then get Sydney as she is still on sale.
Thank you!
If you want to minimize the orange, all you have to do is use the low or medium translucency setting that is included in most Daz Original material settings. The default, IMVHO, is much, much too high at 90%. That might be ok for a frog or a salamander, but not human skin ;). While it might be true that human skin does allow a good bit of light thru, it doesn't really intrude very far into the skin, not at 90% anyway. I also recommend Divamakup's Altern8 for the Genesis 8 crowd....it helps a lot to get a better looking skin.
As for Edie, give her another look. You'll notice that her skin looks much younger than she herself does...I think because she's more a fantasy figure that one jumps to the conclusion that she is old, when in fact her skin is quite nice (so is Ollie's for that matter). Anyway, just thought I'd mention it. :)
Oh, and btw...that character you liked above IS Eva, so her skin does lend itself to well to an older woman if you can pull off the morphing :). In fact, most of her IS Eva.
Laurie