A Work Harness for the DAZ Horse 2 and another for the Centaur but ...

3djoji3djoji Posts: 1,093
edited January 2022 in The Commons

Because of the last forum thread ( A harness for the DAZ Horse 2 : Who's interrested and for which carriage? - Daz 3D Forums ), I'm now working on the Work Harness for DAZ Horse 2 (see WIP below), and, by the way, I try to figure out how this Work Harness can fit the Centaur for Genesis 8. Some minor changes can do the job but the harness is finally scaled to 73.7%. When I look to this Work Harness, I find it not in the mood of Centaurs. Any suggestion about it ?

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,230

    he would look kinkier in a bridle wink

  • RuthvenRuthven Posts: 653

    3djoji said:

    Because of the last forum thread ( A harness for the DAZ Horse 2 : Who's interrested and for which carriage? - Daz 3D Forums ), I'm now working on the Work Harness for DAZ Horse 2 (see WIP below), and, by the way, I try to figure out how this Work Harness can fit the Centaur for Genesis 8. Some minor changes can do the job but the harness is finally scaled to 73.7%. When I look to this Work Harness, I find it not in the mood of Centaurs. Any suggestion about it ?

    I think, to allow the centaur to use his strenght to pull the carriage, the harness should be more like a tall waistband embracing the lower part of the human torso. In the way it's posed now, when he starts to pull the harness would be pressed against his body in an angled position and, being it metallic, it would be painful. The part attached to the human torso needs to be completely remodeled

  • FirstBastionFirstBastion Posts: 7,764

    The horse harness looks great!  Very useful.

     

     

     

     

  • I agree the horse harness looks excellent.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,230

    on a horse heart

  • Ruthven said:

    3djoji said:

    Because of the last forum thread ( A harness for the DAZ Horse 2 : Who's interrested and for which carriage? - Daz 3D Forums ), I'm now working on the Work Harness for DAZ Horse 2 (see WIP below), and, by the way, I try to figure out how this Work Harness can fit the Centaur for Genesis 8. Some minor changes can do the job but the harness is finally scaled to 73.7%. When I look to this Work Harness, I find it not in the mood of Centaurs. Any suggestion about it ?

    I think, to allow the centaur to use his strenght to pull the carriage, the harness should be more like a tall waistband embracing the lower part of the human torso. In the way it's posed now, when he starts to pull the harness would be pressed against his body in an angled position and, being it metallic, it would be painful. The part attached to the human torso needs to be completely remodeled

    I agree, it may not make anatomical sense (but these are centaurs) but I think it would need to engage with the human torso too to look plausible, which would probably need a separate figure.

  • Matt_CastleMatt_Castle Posts: 2,588
    edited January 2022

    3djoji said:

    Some minor changes can do the job but the harness is finally scaled to 73.7%.

    I think the exact scale factor is closer to 74.1% - my guess is that the Horse 2 body was scaled down for the centaurs at 1/1.35, as if you take measurements off both meshes and compare them, the horse is so close to being exactly 35% bigger that the difference is floating point rounding errors.

    ~~~

    On this whole note, I wish fitting Horse 2 assets to the centaurs was easier. While I've made basic clones for them, the rigging is a flipping pain (unless you're willing to go with basic transfer utility results).

    It's stuff I could fix in about five minutes with Blender's tools, but trying to do things like swap around the weight maps and bone hierarchy is really frustrating with DS's rigging tools, which are much less powerful and have no undo, so one mistake in the very roundabout method means starting over. (It'd help so much if Daz Studio was updated to properly load rigged FBX files from Blender...)

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  • 3djoji3djoji Posts: 1,093

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Ruthven said:

    3djoji said:

    Because of the last forum thread ( A harness for the DAZ Horse 2 : Who's interrested and for which carriage? - Daz 3D Forums ), I'm now working on the Work Harness for DAZ Horse 2 (see WIP below), and, by the way, I try to figure out how this Work Harness can fit the Centaur for Genesis 8. Some minor changes can do the job but the harness is finally scaled to 73.7%. When I look to this Work Harness, I find it not in the mood of Centaurs. Any suggestion about it ?

    I think, to allow the centaur to use his strenght to pull the carriage, the harness should be more like a tall waistband embracing the lower part of the human torso. In the way it's posed now, when he starts to pull the harness would be pressed against his body in an angled position and, being it metallic, it would be painful. The part attached to the human torso needs to be completely remodeled

    I agree, it may not make anatomical sense (but these are centaurs) but I think it would need to engage with the human torso too to look plausible, which would probably need a separate figure.

    I agree, may be this kind of design is somewhat in the good way?

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  • manekiNekomanekiNeko Posts: 1,405
    edited January 2022

    not a suggestion but a plea: if it's not a lot of additional work, can you addpt the centaur harness to centaur 7 too? i don't have the 8 version, and since i already can't afford stuff that i really don't have at all in any versions, and my wishlist is meanwhile longer than a phone book, i'm not going to invest in yet another centaur...

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  • HaruchaiHaruchai Posts: 1,952
    edited January 2022

    manekiNeko said:

    not a suggestion but a plea: if it's not a lot of additional work, can you addpt the centaur harness to centaur 7 too? i don't have the 8 version, and since i already can't afford stuff that i really don't have at all in any versions, and my wishlist is meanwhile longer than a phone book, i'm not going to invest in yet another centaur...

    As this fits the horse part of the Centaur, and that is DAZ Horse 2 in both cases, wouldn't it just fit Centaur 7 with a change in Scene Identification? 

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  • manekiNekomanekiNeko Posts: 1,405

    Haruchai said:

    manekiNeko said:

    not a suggestion but a plea: if it's not a lot of additional work, can you addpt the centaur harness to centaur 7 too? i don't have the 8 version, and since i already can't afford stuff that i really don't have at all in any versions, and my wishlist is meanwhile longer than a phone book, i'm not going to invest in yet another centaur...

    As this fits the horse part of the Centaur, and that is DAZ Horse 2 in both cases, wouldn't it just fit Centaur 7 with a change in Scene Identification? 

    i didn't think of this, that actually it's the same horse. because i thought of autofit between human figures, and thought there's no autofit between horse figures. and of course i didn't realize it fits the horse and not the human centaur part either. so it might not be a problem even as it is now... thx for bringin this to my attention, even if your msg was (also) directed to the creator of the harness ^^

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,169

    The horse harness is beautiful!!

  • 3djoji3djoji Posts: 1,093

    AllenArt said:

    The horse harness is beautiful!!

    Thank you. This is a WIP, the textures are not yet finished, i hope it will comes with some beautifull decors. 

  • 3djoji3djoji Posts: 1,093

    another Work In Progress shot, with a single belt. I try to keep the body surface clean for the upper clothes.

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  • 3djoji said:

    another Work In Progress shot, with a single belt. I try to keep the body surface clean for the upper clothes.

    That feels more plausible, certainly.

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,071

    Looks great, so I hope there are enough of us weirdos to make all this work worth your while.

  • 3djoji3djoji Posts: 1,093

    Gordig said:

    Looks great, so I hope there are enough of us weirdos to make all this work worth your while.

    I count already one :-)

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,071

    This will definitely be a day-1 purchase for me. It would fit perfectly into a story I've been workshopping, and my attempts to fit Horse 2 accessories to the centaur body have been utterly confounding.

  • HaruchaiHaruchai Posts: 1,952

    3djoji said:

    Gordig said:

    Looks great, so I hope there are enough of us weirdos to make all this work worth your while.

    I count already one :-)

    I own everything Centaur in the store and this would fly into the cart :)

  • pwiecekpwiecek Posts: 1,577

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    he would look kinkier in a bridle wink

    They are available 

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,230

    pwiecek said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    he would look kinkier in a bridle wink

    They are available 

    surprise 

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,071

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    pwiecek said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    he would look kinkier in a bridle wink

    They are available 

    surprise 

    Honestly, I'd be more surprised if Rotica didn't have them.  

  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,753

    Oh wow, the harness looks so great! Such detailing! Can't wait for it to hit the store. Thank you for caring so much about what we like!

  • 3djoji3djoji Posts: 1,093
    edited January 2022

    tsroemi said:

    Oh wow, the harness looks so great! Such detailing! Can't wait for it to hit the store. Thank you for caring so much about what we like!

    I do my best.. trying to get the mood it should be. May be this one is more about centaurs? Is there any centaur here who can help? lol

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  • James_HJames_H Posts: 1,036

    The reason I come back to this store is threads like this. All that's missing is an argument, but that's good too.

  • GreybroGreybro Posts: 2,502

    Way to fill a niche!

  • 3djoji3djoji Posts: 1,093

    tsroemi said:

    Can't wait for it to hit the store.

    They should hit the store when all of the harnesses are ready to go. At that time I can propose a Bundle cheaper for everybody. 

  • FenixPhoenixFenixPhoenix Posts: 3,087
    This looks awesome, @3djoji! Perhaps the belt around the waist could be bigger (like the strenght belts used in gyms)? Still looks awesome, right now. So that's only a suggestion :).
  • manekiNekomanekiNeko Posts: 1,405

    3djoji said:

    tsroemi said:

    Oh wow, the harness looks so great! Such detailing! Can't wait for it to hit the store. Thank you for caring so much about what we like!

    I do my best.. trying to get the mood it should be. May be this one is more about centaurs? Is there any centaur here who can help? lol

    wow, this is the most beautiful version of the whole thread! excellent! yes

    hmm, i have a merman in my acquaintances.. but that won't do, right?
    hey,.. as i wrote this i just had an idea... what about a mervolk chariot, with a harness and some type of shell? ok, from the physics POV i guess there's not much use in being "carried" in the water, lol. but it would look cute XD

  • carrie58carrie58 Posts: 3,984

    3djoji said:

    tsroemi said:

    Oh wow, the harness looks so great! Such detailing! Can't wait for it to hit the store. Thank you for caring so much about what we like!

    I do my best.. trying to get the mood it should be. May be this one is more about centaurs? Is there any centaur here who can help? lol

    OMG!! how have I missed this thread !!?

     Want this soooo much .......

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