DAZ Studio Pro 4.8.0.59, General Release, Now Available! [*UPDATED*]

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,770
    edited December 1969

    marble said:
    The ones with +Beta+ in the name are dated 3rd. June and the non-beta is 14th. June so that would make sense, except that I thought this latest release was as recent as today (or yesterday). I notice they date them day/month/year like we do in the UK but unlike the usual American way.

    EDIT: OK - right enough, the versions without +Beta+ are indeed 4.8.0.59. Thanks.

    The build will get some testing before it goes live, that probably accounts for the dating.

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249
    edited December 1969

    I found like 5-6 alternative cooling solution for Titan X already , water or air cooling , the one I was talking about last time was the air cooling with 2 fans, but I guess water cooling will perform better here , minder ambient heat also as right now I can blow dry my hair on full load lol will be handy in winter Lol sadly the water hybrid is still not in stock so I have to wait , also the top plates for VRAM cooling are separate to buy $26 per one but not sure if I want to go with that or just with the heat sinkers and thermo tape for each individual chip

    MEC4D said:
    Actually found yesterday additional cooling for the Titan X by EVGA it cool down to 26 % of the GPU temperature what is great , EVGA was not allowed to use it by NVIDIA in own version of cards so they shipping it separate and replacing the double fan cooling will not interact with the warranty , so I am going on with that for now as 26% less for each card is a huge improvements it also use less fan power for faster GPU and the card will working 4 times longer than without .. especially under heavy load all the time so if now I reach 65 C with heavy load then having 49 C with new cooling will be amazing not to mention faster GPU power plus less noises

    Do you mean the hybrid? That one is available as a complete package by EVGA (Titan X with EVGA hybrid cooling pre-built) as well as the aftermarket kit. This is a big and interesting policy change from Nvidia. Maybe they are worried by AMD (in gaming world, not ours).

    http://www.evga.com/articles/00935/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-TITAN-X-HYBRID/

    The aftermarket kit is great since it fits all the reference Titan Xs. The main difference I see between the kit and the full card is that you don't get the back plate (which tidies up the card and helps cool the VDRAMM. The dollar price is good.

    If that is the one you are going for you should have an interesting time accommodating two extra radiators in your case. Can't think of a way to put one in mine (portable midi).

    .

  • MEC4DMEC4D Posts: 5,249
    edited December 1969

    Yes that was interesting that they did not allowed it with Titan X , according to EVGA, its hybrid cooling solution can cool down Nvidia’s GeForce GTX Titan X graphics processing unit to around 53°C under load, whereas the standard Nvidia cooler can only cool the GPU down to 85°C under the same load.
    As soon they are in stock I am getting myself 2 of them definitely

    This is a big and interesting policy change from Nvidia. Maybe they are worried by AMD (in gaming world, not ours).
    .
  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    marble said:
    The ones with +Beta+ in the name are dated 3rd. June and the non-beta is 14th. June so that would make sense, except that I thought this latest release was as recent as today (or yesterday). I notice they date them day/month/year like we do in the UK but unlike the usual American way.

    EDIT: OK - right enough, the versions without +Beta+ are indeed 4.8.0.59. Thanks.

    The build will get some testing before it goes live, that probably accounts for the dating.

    It works and does what I want it to. I do often wonder if that's because I did it manually and let the installer uninstall the previous build. I've done that since I first got DS4 and it has always run hiccup free.

    CHEERS!

  • Peter FulfordPeter Fulford Posts: 1,325
    edited December 1969

    MEC4D said:
    ...the one I was talking about last time was the air cooling with 2 fans...

    Ahh, just rummaged on EVGA and found it. It was originally for the GTX 980, which goes to show how standardised these GPU designs are.

    A common problem with two-fan solutions is that although they can be more efficient than the reference cooler in terms of direct cooling power, they are less effective at getting the hot air out of the case. And with more heat dumped into the case, the more airflow the case needs (more fans or more speed). Radiators (properly used) are very good at directing heat out of the case.

    But in the end, by whatever cooling method, the GPU heat has to enter room ambient. So you're never going to be short of a hair dryer. ;-)

    I have figured out a way of using the hybrid cooler in my case but it will require too much time messing with hardware - and I do actually want to use the software. I'm in danger of becoming like Arnold Rimmer, who spent all his time designing the perfect exam revision timetable instead of learning any facts.

    .

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited June 2015

    I have a 2 fan cooler on my GPU, but, I also have 7 cooling fans in the case and it's definitely cool in there. I just wish my PSU wasn't giving up on me. It's restarted my PC due to power surges 3 times. The first 2 I put down to bad weather, but when it happened a third time it was a clear day, so I knew it was the PSU and not the weather. I spoke to the manufacturer and they agreed it would need replacing. However, I'm not getting another Corsair unit as I'd read that it happens a lot with them. I'm getting a unit by Fractal Design, it's gold rated and has a 5 year warranty. I was told when building the case that a 750w PSU would be man enough so I'm sticking with that.

    CHEERS!

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  • Peter FulfordPeter Fulford Posts: 1,325
    edited December 1969

    Rogerbee said:
    I have a 2 fan cooler on my GPU, but, I also have 7 cooling fans in the case and it's definitely cool in there. I just wish my PSU wasn't giving up on me. It's restarted my PC due to power surges 3 times. The first 2 I put down to bad weather, but when it happened a third time it was a clear day, so I knew it was the PSU and not the weather. I spoke to the manufacturer and they agreed it would need replacing. However, I'm not getting another Corsair unit as I'd read that it happens a lot with them. I'm getting a unit by Fractal Design, it's gold rated and has a 5 year warranty.

    Have you checked the stability of your mains supply? I've measured some horrible variations and spikes in some places (supply related, not weather) such that even the best PSU would suffer over the long term. An uninterruptable power supply is a good investment for smoothing out the baddies as well saving work in the event of a sudden power cut.

    Corsair and Fractal Design don't make PSUs, they are brands that have various OEMs build them for them. Some in the Corsair range are very good, some not so good. Same with Fractal.

    A bit out of date, but this is a good guide to who makes what:
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-oem-manufacturer,2913.html


    I was told when building the case that a 750w PSU would be man enough so I'm sticking with that.

    Provided that advice was correct, and so long as you haven't added more stuff, or plan to, then yes.

  • mjc1016mjc1016 Posts: 15,001
    edited December 1969

    Have you checked the stability of your mains supply? I've measured some horrible variations and spikes in some places (supply related, not weather) such that even the best PSU would suffer over the long term. An uninterruptable power supply is a good investment for smoothing out the baddies as well saving work in the event of a sudden power cut.

    Always...always, use a UPS...preferably one that 'filters' the line voltage or even better, outputs a pure sine wave 'line' voltage...

    And Rogerbee, some of the worst days for 'clean' mains...bright, sunny, hot ones...with no t-storms anywhere nearby. You've got more A/C kicking on/off causing spikes when the weather is like that.

  • Peter FulfordPeter Fulford Posts: 1,325
    edited December 1969

    mjc1016 said:

    Always...always, use a UPS.

    Yes, a UPS for the PSU for the CPU and the GPU. If we get lost among the acronyms we can just use GPS on our MCD.

    At work we use a massive marine charger-battery-inverter system with 12 batteries weighing 68kg each. If I had that at home I could render for a day off the grid. Makes the hi-fi sound good, too.

    After you've installed it you are completely FKD.

    .

  • kathrynlochkathrynloch Posts: 378
    edited December 1969

    mjc1016 said:

    Always...always, use a UPS.

    Yes, a UPS for the PSU for the CPU and the GPU. If we get lost among the acronyms we can just use GPS on our MCD.

    At work we use a massive marine charger-battery-inverter system with 12 batteries weighing 68kg each. If I had that at home I could render for a day off the grid. Makes the hi-fi sound good, too.

    After you've installed it you are completely FKD.

    .

    Sorry to interrupt - but in reading the posts up to this - then this one - ROFLMAO! My thoughts exactly.

    Thanks Peter, I needed a good laugh.

    Cheers,
    Kathryn

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited June 2015

    Thanks for the input, as far as I know, the mains supply is fine, nothing else has been affected, just the PSU. Everything has been fine up until last week with 3 restarts in a row with the anti surge software telling me about power surges in the PSU. All research, including input from Corsair themselves has pointed to a duff PSU. The Fractal Design Edison has had glowing reviews and is the best of the ones I can comfortably afford. Cost is a big issue for me, sometimes more than quality, but not always.

    It hasn't done it again over the time I've been posting about it, but, I save my DS files as often as possible, just in case...

    CHEERS!

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,251
    edited December 1969

    MEC4D said:
    Actually found yesterday additional cooling for the Titan X by EVGA it cool down to 26 % of the GPU temperature what is great , EVGA was not allowed to use it by NVIDIA in own version of cards so they shipping it separate and replacing the double fan cooling will not interact with the warranty , so I am going on with that for now as 26% less for each card is a huge improvements it also use less fan power for faster GPU and the card will working 4 times longer than without .. especially under heavy load all the time so if now I reach 65 C with heavy load then having 49 C with new cooling will be amazing not to mention faster GPU power plus less noises

    Do you mean the hybrid? That one is available as a complete package by EVGA (Titan X with EVGA hybrid cooling pre-built) as well as the aftermarket kit. This is a big and interesting policy change from Nvidia. Maybe they are worried by AMD (in gaming world, not ours).

    http://www.evga.com/articles/00935/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-TITAN-X-HYBRID/

    The aftermarket kit is great since it fits all the reference Titan Xs. The main difference I see between the kit and the full card is that you don't get the back plate (which tidies up the card and helps cool the VDRAMM. The dollar price is good.

    If that is the one you are going for you should have an interesting time accommodating two extra radiators in your case. Can't think of a way to put one in mine (portable midi).

    .
    ...only 100$ more than the base Titan X at Amazon. I thought it was going to be a lot more expensive.

  • Peter FulfordPeter Fulford Posts: 1,325
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:

    ...only 100$ more than the base Titan X at Amazon. I thought it was going to be a lot more expensive.

    USA customers definitely winning out. It's £300 more expensive here, or £200 on offer.

    The AIO (all-in-one waterblock-pump-radiator) part of the kit is standard OEM equipment. The key proprietary part is the adaptor plate that holds the block down onto the chip / board of the card. If someone makes a plate separately then end users could adapt off-the-shelf dual radiator AIOs. That would really cool things down, and quietly.

    .

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,860
    edited December 1969

    Kyoto Kid said:

    ...only 100$ more than the base Titan X at Amazon. I thought it was going to be a lot more expensive.

    USA customers definitely winning out. It's £300 more expensive here, or £200 on offer.

    The AIO (all-in-one waterblock-pump-radiator) part of the kit is standard OEM equipment. The key proprietary part is the adaptor plate that holds the block down onto the chip / board of the card. If someone makes a plate separately then end users could adapt off-the-shelf dual radiator AIOs. That would really cool things down, and quietly.

    .I'm not familiar with this technique. Where does the fan on the end of the cable get mounted?

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,251
    edited December 1969

    ...good question.

  • namffuaknamffuak Posts: 4,191
    edited December 1969

    barbult said:
    Kyoto Kid said:

    ...only 100$ more than the base Titan X at Amazon. I thought it was going to be a lot more expensive.

    USA customers definitely winning out. It's £300 more expensive here, or £200 on offer.

    The AIO (all-in-one waterblock-pump-radiator) part of the kit is standard OEM equipment. The key proprietary part is the adaptor plate that holds the block down onto the chip / board of the card. If someone makes a plate separately then end users could adapt off-the-shelf dual radiator AIOs. That would really cool things down, and quietly.

    .

    I'm not familiar with this technique. Where does the fan on the end of the cable get mounted?

    My guess is that it would replace a 120 mm exhaust fan in the case. Which would mean my 7-fan case only has room for two of them, as the third exhaust fan is a top-mount 210 mm and the other four fans are intake fans for positive pressure.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,251
    edited June 2015

    ...so sounds like building an external enclosure for 4 of them may still be the best way to go.

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  • Security16Security16 Posts: 79
    edited December 1969

    Le sigh this new version is missing my GoZ plugin and the photoshop bridge but they are still in my public beta version. Am I alone with this issue?

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 2,047
    edited December 1969

    Le sigh this new version is missing my GoZ plugin and the photoshop bridge but they are still in my public beta version. Am I alone with this issue?

    No problem at all here. GoZ works like a charm.
    BTW: this latest version is not a public beta, it's a General Release, as you can read it in the headline.
  • Security16Security16 Posts: 79
    edited December 1969

    Le sigh this new version is missing my GoZ plugin and the photoshop bridge but they are still in my public beta version. Am I alone with this issue?

    No problem at all here. GoZ works like a charm.
    BTW: this latest version is not a public beta, it's a General Release, as you can read it in the headline.

    I am aware of that but since installing the newest version that isn't the public beta GoZ has gone and i'm using my public beta version because it still has the plugin functioning.
    I don't want to have to uninstall and re-install everything again to get it to work

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,770
    edited December 1969

    Le sigh this new version is missing my GoZ plugin and the photoshop bridge but they are still in my public beta version. Am I alone with this issue?

    No problem at all here. GoZ works like a charm.
    BTW: this latest version is not a public beta, it's a General Release, as you can read it in the headline.

    I am aware of that but since installing the newest version that isn't the public beta GoZ has gone and i'm using my public beta version because it still has the plugin functioning.
    I don't want to have to uninstall and re-install everything again to get it to work

    Gone from DS or gone from DIM? You can't have multiple GoZs installed - if you want it in the Production build you need to reinstall that version, which will remove the beta version.

  • legarclegarc Posts: 45
    edited December 1969

    "The Render Settings pane also now provides access to Light Path [removed]LPE), when NVIDIA Iray is set as the active engine."


    Is this the "Canvases" sub tab in the Render Settings -> Advanced tab? If so, are there any instructions available on how to use it? Thanks in advance.

    I've been using it in very limited fashion but I think I'm getting the hang of it. Turn tone mapper off. You must do this or you'll get nowhere fast. Light settings need to be very low or near off otherwise you'll be very over exposed beyond correction in composite. Don't worry everything is still physically correct, even more so with tone mapping out of the way with true linear image. You'll need to get used to images looking very degamma'ed, linear without sRGB in the viewport but you get used to it, easy to see grain that way anyway. I read somewhere that in subsequent version sRGB will be able to be enabled with tone mapper off. With tone mapper off you can make use of luminance settings that help the firefly filter do its thing, works well actually very effective in this manner, fireflys gone! Set your canvases selection, hit cntr-r to generate your exr renders in nice tidy folder in your render library. I've been using Nuke for composite very easy but you can use photoshop all the same little more cumbersome. Trying to determine if there's more color information in the exr renders than otherwise. it's not clear if the exr's are set for 32-bit float as opposed to a mere 8bit like for png's. Huge advantage if so and it seems most people are not making use of it. Go figure!

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,860
    edited December 1969

    Yes, that is true, and so I was careful to do that (see the separate paths listed in my message). I found the problem. My DAZ Studio was configured to run in administrator mode, because Customer Support told me that was the solution to getting the hexagon Bridge to work. Evidently that interferes with dragging and dropping the mdl files into shader mixer. As soon as I reconfigured DAZ Studio to NOT run in Administrator mode, the mdl drag and drop worked again. Of course, now Hexagon Bridge doesn't work anymore. The 4.8 beta worked with mdl drag and drop, because I hadn't bothered to configure it to always run in administrator mode.

    MEC4D said:
    The MDL box need to be under the same Program Files directory as the DS version you use to mix them , if the MDL block are outside it will not load

    barbult said:
    I have the same Shader Mixer MDL problem with 4.8.0.59 that I had with 4.8.0.55 released version:

    I’m not able to drag and drop mdl files into the Shader Mixer with released version 4.8.0.59. It didn't work in release 4.8.0.55 either. It does work fine 4.8.0.56 beta, which is now older than the released version.

    This is what I did:

    Open DS 4.8.0.59 released version. Switch to Shader Mixer tab. Create a new shader, select all bricks and delete them. Drag any mdl file from D:\Program Files\DAZ 3D\DAZStudio4\shaders\iray\nvidia. DS shows the circle with the slash symbol and won’t add the mdl brick.

    Open DS 4.8.0.56 beta version. Switch to Shader Mixer tab. Create a new shader, select all bricks and delete them. Drag any mdl file from D:\Program Files\DAZ 3D\DAZStudio4 Public Build\shaders\iray\nvidia. DS shows the + symbol and adds the mdl brick successfully.

    I sent a support request about my problem with 4.8.0.55, and the response was that that functionality was added back in the latest release. Well, now I have a later release, and it still doesn't work for me.

    Please, does anyone else have this problem, or am I alone?

  • RogerbeeRogerbee Posts: 4,460
    edited December 1969

    Looks like Daz should configure everything for Run as Administrator.

    CHEERS!

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,251
    edited December 1969

    ...still getting that annoying white flickering when loading content, cancelling a render process, and changing parameters/shader settings. Have the latest non "game ready" Nvidia drivers. GPU is seated solidly in its slot. All display connections are fine (and this doesn't happen with other applications only Daz 4.8).

  • KatteyKattey Posts: 2,899
    edited June 2015

    Is there a way to delete/uninstall/disable CMS in DS 4.8?
    Previously I just didn't installed that horrible thing but now I'm not even given an option to not do it.

    Post edited by Kattey on
  • JimmyC_2009JimmyC_2009 Posts: 8,891
    edited December 1969

    Kattey said:
    Is there a way to delete/uninstall/disable CMS in DS 4.8?
    Previously I just didn't installed that horrible thing but now I'm not even given an option to not do it.


    It has always been installed as part of the main DAZ Studio installation as far as I know.

    In Windows, go to Start > All Programs > DAZ 3D, and you should be able to uninstall it from there
  • KatteyKattey Posts: 2,899
    edited December 1969

    Kattey said:
    Is there a way to delete/uninstall/disable CMS in DS 4.8?
    Previously I just didn't installed that horrible thing but now I'm not even given an option to not do it.

    It has always been installed as part of the main DAZ Studio installation as far as I know.

    It was an option before: if you chose custom installation or something like that you could skip CMS installation entirely.

    In Windows, go to Start > All Programs > DAZ 3D, and you should be able to uninstall it from there
    Is that PostgreSQL CMD?
  • JimmyC_2009JimmyC_2009 Posts: 8,891
    edited December 1969

    Is that PostgreSQL CMD?


    No, CMS/Valentina

    If you want to stop the new PosetgreSQL system, then there is an option in the Content Library drop-down to Stop CMS. I don't know of any way of uninstalling it, but why would you want to. Products and Categories wont work, there will be no search function, AutoFit may be affected to name but a few.
  • KatteyKattey Posts: 2,899
    edited December 1969

    Is that PostgreSQL CMD?

    No, CMS/Valentina

    If you want to stop the new PosetgreSQL system, then there is an option in the Content Library drop-down to Stop CMS.

    I can't find it, is that in that Content Library pane you get from F2, Preferences?

    I don't know of any way of uninstalling it, but why would you want to. Products and Categories wont work, there will be no search function, AutoFit may be affected to name but a few.
    I never used or even installed any CMS, so it won't make a difference for me. I don't have Products and Categories and I never used Search as I organized my content in a such way I know where everything is without it. Autofit works fine like it is without CMS.

    I don't see CMS/Valentina or even CMS folder in All Programs, only Postgre.

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