Shape Shift for Genesis 3 (Commercial)

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  • sounds great loved all the ones I've got of yours on g/g2 also have some from ironman13 and others but it's sounding like genesis 3 is going to surpass our unique character creation dreams.

    And there will be a skinbuilder as well? 

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089

    We plan on making one, however no timeframe yet. Still have lots of morph packages that I have to complete first.

  • lots and lots of morphs yes :)heart

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    edited August 2015

    This is good news, but I still don't see the buy now button. :)

    I nearly bought it (http://www.daz3d.com/200-plus-head-face-morphs-for-genesis-3-female-s), but heads and faces are not symetrical, and everything I saw did not allow for any adjustment of just the left or right; it was in my cart but when I realised I removed it and just got a Sickleyield product. I'm still tempted though.

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  • ZarconDeeGrissomZarconDeeGrissom Posts: 5,412
    edited August 2015

    So, the face version is 'mostly' covered by the other product. I simply gave up looking around, as the store page was messed up.

    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/886003/#Comment_886003

    B.O.T. , I noticed that a few nose shapes didn't appear to be there, and some others appeared to be duplicates of the basics (required or included G3F things). I will guess the duplicates are better refined or something. In all, looking at the pics only, it dose look good, and it 'Appears' to have one of my minimum morph requirements (dials), tho I will say there is allot of nose shapes missing, at least in the promo images. And I do agree with nicstt regarding the lack of L/R adjustments on at least some of the cheeks eyes nose etc dials. I see what appears to be puffy cheeks, instead of only sunken cheeks, so there is at least that, somehow.

    I don't think this particular Dogz product is in one of the 'G3F auto-follow malfunction' areas, so it looks like a good product. I do still have some doubts (regarding some hair styles, like Krayon Hair).

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  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

    Even just the ability to alter the size of the eyes independently and their height independently would have been enough; subtle - very subtle - differences are often enough. The eye picks up on the lack of perfect symetry and helps sell believability - alway more important than if it looks or is real or not.

  • CypherFOXCypherFOX Posts: 3,401
    edited August 2015

    Greetings,

    Arm flab?  Calf flex?!  Do Want.

    I am somewhat saddened by the loss of Face Shift; I was hoping for asymmetric stuff also.  The Genesis 2 Female facial morphs included left and right dimple creases, as well as left and right eye sizing, but it appears that the Genesis 3 Female facial morphs do not.  Nor does the 200 Morphs package from Dogz.  (Don't get me wrong, Dogz rocks, and I'm happy to buy it, but it is missing that asymmetric feature, just like the base G3F morphs.)

    I'm especially saddened that there isn't a good single-sided dimple. *sigh*

    Anyhow, enough of the maudlin moping! I can't wait for Shape Shift to come out!

    --  Morgan

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  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 5,020
    Zev0 said:

    Due to this fantastic set by my buddy Dogz http://www.daz3d.com/200-plus-head-face-morphs-for-genesis-3-female-s, I have decided that Face Shift will be cancelled. It pretty much covers what I was going to include anyways lol. If you're a morph junky like myself, I highly recommend it:)

    Hmmm Very sorry to hear that, I was really looking forward to that set from you. I know G3F has been exhausted in this area... But what about the G2s? Neither have such packages and could really benifit from it.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    edited August 2015

    I actually bought both and they are really good, but made my own height adjustments for the eyebrows, eyes and a small cheek area; they seem to work OK; I also made a mouth twist one for very slight skewing. I kinda fancy sharing but am not sure on the process there; other's opinions and feedback would be useful.

    EDIT

    I put them in the freebies section; I hope to get some feedback.

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  • ZarconDeeGrissomZarconDeeGrissom Posts: 5,412
    edited August 2015

    I've just looked at a personal project (of sorts) again, and It appears the G2F version of this had some potential with a few other sets I've yet to figure out what dial is what morph pack. (G2F7W).

    I know, a big if. IF, I was able to find a G3F wachiwi skin texture (or "V4 EliteTexture: Natasha"), how close can the G3F version get to the appearance of the G2F one?

    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/815363/#Comment_815363

    There is also XYZ bone scaling used, as I was unable to find any morphs to do some things.

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  • Hey Zev0......what I would give to see Vascularity HD released for G3F!  I have to say it was one of the best purchases I made for Gen 2.  I morph all the time in GoZ, but since there are issues with subdivision in Zbrush translating to DAZ (fingers and toes shrink) I'm not sure how you get that level of detail using base resolution.  Love your products!

  • ZarconDeeGrissomZarconDeeGrissom Posts: 5,412
    edited August 2015

    Hey Zev0......what I would give to see Vascularity HD released for G3F!  I have to say it was one of the best purchases I made for Gen 2.  I morph all the time in GoZ, but since there are issues with subdivision in Zbrush translating to DAZ (fingers and toes shrink) I'm not sure how you get that level of detail using base resolution.  Love your products!

    To partially answer that, having subdivision shapes work properly on G3F/G2F/etc, requires some HD tool that is only available to PAs. It's one of the few topics that appears to not be encouraged, so pleas don't ask. As I'm guessing the answers would at the very least violate NDA or 'Trade Secrets' of some kind. Besides, this is not a thread for that topic, lol.

    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/31158/how-can-i-create-hd-morphs-for-ds

     

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  • Hey Zev0......what I would give to see Vascularity HD released for G3F!  I have to say it was one of the best purchases I made for Gen 2.  I morph all the time in GoZ, but since there are issues with subdivision in Zbrush translating to DAZ (fingers and toes shrink) I'm not sure how you get that level of detail using base resolution.  Love your products!

    To partially answer that, having subdivision shapes work properly on G3F/G2F/etc, requires some HD tool that is only available to PAs. It's one of the few topics that appears to not be encouraged, so pleas don't ask. As I'm guessing the answers would at the very least violate NDA or 'Trade Secrets' of some kind. Besides, this is not a thread for that topic, lol.

    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/31158/how-can-i-create-hd-morphs-for-ds

     

    Aahh, gotcha thanks ZarconDeeGrissom! - would love to see Vascularity HD for G3F

     

     

  • HappyboyHappyboy Posts: 54

    I couldn't see it in the morph list and I didn't see anyone else ask (maybe I am missing something) but will this include impacts for glutes?

    Also can't wait for the breast control and........well, all of your stuff, lol. 

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

     

    Happyboy said:

    I couldn't see it in the morph list and I didn't see anyone else ask (maybe I am missing something) but will this include impacts for glutes?

    Also can't wait for the breast control and........well, all of your stuff, lol. 

    LOL Yeh, I stil don't see the 'buy now damnit' button. :)

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited August 2015
    Happyboy said:

    I couldn't see it in the morph list and I didn't see anyone else ask (maybe I am missing something) but will this include impacts for glutes?

    Also can't wait for the breast control and........well, all of your stuff, lol. 

    Hi. Sorry been away from pc because I am here in Utah visiting Daz HQ so I haven't been online a lot. But the glute impact morphs will be part of glute and breast control for g3, which will come out after shapeshift. A new vascularity HD is also in the works:)
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  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715

     

    Zev0 said:
    Happyboy said:

    I couldn't see it in the morph list and I didn't see anyone else ask (maybe I am missing something) but will this include impacts for glutes?

    Also can't wait for the breast control and........well, all of your stuff, lol. 

     

    Hi. Sorry been away from pc because I am here in Utah visiting Daz HQ so I haven't been online a lot. But the glute impact morphs will be part of glute and breast control for g3, which will come out after shapeshift. A new vascularity HD is also in the works:)

    This is also something to look forward to...

    As is the buy button. :)

  • nicstt said:
    Zev0 said:
    Happyboy said:

    I couldn't see it in the morph list and I didn't see anyone else ask (maybe I am missing something) but will this include impacts for glutes?

    Also can't wait for the breast control and........well, all of your stuff, lol. 

    Hi. Sorry been away from pc because I am here in Utah visiting Daz HQ so I haven't been online a lot. But the glute impact morphs will be part of glute and breast control for g3, which will come out after shapeshift. A new vascularity HD is also in the works:)

    This is also something to look forward to...

    As is the buy button. :)

    Yea, they are good products to look forward to for an entire generation. Simply because they make them usable

    "Not so Barby waist", err Abdomen Size (Shape shift).

    "Not so High heal Back Posture", err Youth Posture (Growing Up).

    "Not so zero-G lounging around", many from the various "Glute and Breast Control" sets.

    The kind of sets that have little gems that make an entire generation useful to so many.

    O.T.

    Visiting 'HQ', something I imagine would be similar to me getting Complete 3D maps of the plumbing and fault lines of the entire Tharsis Region (For prospective, There are places on earth we don't have Complete 3D maps of the fault lines and/or plumbing of yet). East African rift plume? Hawaiian Plume? etc? Olympus Mons plumbing, yea right lol. I do hope you have a good time at HQ, especially if it has nothing to do with what I've been struggling with lately. Otherwise I can think of few others to figure out a fix, and my sympathies for the grief and agony involved. At the very least, please have a good time there.

     

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  • ZarconDeeGrissomZarconDeeGrissom Posts: 5,412
    edited August 2015

    nicstt, CypherFOX, etc. No L/R aspects, and still some simple features missing. I hear you.

    This is only a Preliminary look using G2F, and I still don't know what the legalities of a "Morph set Enchainment" would be as of yet... IF I can figure out a dozen other things first. 'S' shaped nose feature. About time! lol.

    As Posted elsewhere, the 'Auto follow' thing dose not work at all for morphs made from D-Forms, so what I can do is severally limited.

    P.S. The pointy toes is from a shoe set somewhere, not by me.

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  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    nicstt said:
    Zev0 said:
    Happyboy said:

    I couldn't see it in the morph list and I didn't see anyone else ask (maybe I am missing something) but will this include impacts for glutes?

    Also can't wait for the breast control and........well, all of your stuff, lol. 

    Hi. Sorry been away from pc because I am here in Utah visiting Daz HQ so I haven't been online a lot. But the glute impact morphs will be part of glute and breast control for g3, which will come out after shapeshift. A new vascularity HD is also in the works:)

    This is also something to look forward to...

    As is the buy button. :)

    Yea, they are good products to look forward to for an entire generation. Simply because they make them usable

    "Not so Barby waist", err Abdomen Size (Shape shift).

    "Not so High heal Back Posture", err Youth Posture (Growing Up).

    "Not so zero-G lounging around", many from the various "Glute and Breast Control" sets.

    The kind of sets that have little gems that make an entire generation useful to so many.

    O.T.

    Visiting 'HQ', something I imagine would be similar to me getting Complete 3D maps of the plumbing and fault lines of the entire Tharsis Region (For prospective, There are places on earth we don't have Complete 3D maps of the fault lines and/or plumbing of yet). East African rift plume? Hawaiian Plume? etc? Olympus Mons plumbing, yea right lol. I do hope you have a good time at HQ, especially if it has nothing to do with what I've been struggling with lately. Otherwise I can think of few others to figure out a fix, and my sympathies for the grief and agony involved. At the very least, please have a good time there.

     

    I watch all the science programs and love this stuff; well I've actually gone to uni - I'm a somwhat mature student - to study computers; I've always been a tinkerer and programmer and thought I might as well make it a career.

  • BarubaryBarubary Posts: 1,211
    Zev0 said:
    Happyboy said:

    I couldn't see it in the morph list and I didn't see anyone else ask (maybe I am missing something) but will this include impacts for glutes?

    Also can't wait for the breast control and........well, all of your stuff, lol. 

     

    Hi. Sorry been away from pc because I am here in Utah visiting Daz HQ so I haven't been online a lot. But the glute impact morphs will be part of glute and breast control for g3, which will come out after shapeshift. A new vascularity HD is also in the works:)

    Oh noez, I knew it was bound to happen. DAZ is gonna force you to make morphs exclusively for them so they can lock them away in a dungeon and make the whole world miserable, am I right? They want them all to themselves! crying

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089

    Lol...No I am still in control of my products:) Visited because a lot of the guys there are good friends of mine:)

  • BarubaryBarubary Posts: 1,211
    edited September 2015
    Zev0 said:

    Lol...No I am still in control of my products:) Visited because a lot of the guys there are good friends of mine:)

    Well I'll believe that...for now.....

    cheeky wink

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  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited September 2015

    My suggestions for some bend and movement morphs (have to say I have not read all was written here so maybe they were allready made)

    1. Breastmorphs (I know some of the suggestions can allready be done by transforms but then you have to to x,y,z transform + x,y,z scale, too to get a realistic result (reducing/expanding the width of each breast))

    - breast up down - both and single

    - breast flatten - both and single -  a morph (morphs if it is for each) that does flatten and expand the width of each breast at the same time.

    - breast hanging forward - both and single - a morph (morphs if it is for each) that does let the breast turning forward and reduces the width of each breast.

    - breast together/appart morph

    2. glute bend morphs

    -  glute swing left/right (if figure lies on side)

    -  Glute L flatten side and at the same time expand the depth (for realism)

    - Glute R flatten side and at the same time expand the depth (for realism)

    - Glute L expand side and at the same time reduce the depth (for realism)

    - Glute R expand side and at the same time reduce the depth (for realism)

    - Glute expand both sides (for sitting poses and leaning on wall poses)

    - flatten glute - both and each side for itself (for sitting poses or leaning on wall poses)

    - glute L move side L/R

    - glute R move side L/R

    - glute L up/down

    - glute R up/down

    - glute together/appart

    some other morphs I miss from v4 times

    - nipple hight morph

    - glute raise raise morphs

    - glute flex morphs

    - hip spandex

    that is it fo far, maybe I get some other ideas :)

     

     

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  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited September 2015

    About all of those options will be included in the new Glute and Breast control for G3. Spandex will be part of the Fit Control.

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  • how is shapy coming along? When you submit it it still takes awhile to go through the channels be tested approvedand all the other stuff and that takes time too dosen't? So even if you've finished or nearly finished it may not get released by Daz till maybe October? And they'll probably want to combine in some kind of themed sale with other products 

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089

    It will be released second half of this month and will be part of the PA sale. Already finished testing and is just awaiting release date.

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited September 2015

    ah okay, btw, the breast morphs I have found under pose control :( there are so much pathes these new figures have morphs and controls, it is hard to keep in mind were everthing is :(

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  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited September 2015

    Genesis uses two systems. Some are shaping and others are pose driven (movement) morphs. Yes it can be confusing because sometimes a pose type morph can also be considered a shaping one lol.

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  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    Zev0 said:

    It will be released second half of this month and will be part of the PA sale. Already finished testing and is just awaiting release date.

    Second half: 16th = good; 30 = bad. :)

    All joking aside, this is good news.

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