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arrowhead42
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Hi everyone. One of the first things I ever purchased from Daz was many years ago, I'd say around 2009 or so...? It was a set of clothes for Michael 3 (possibly Michael 2 as well but I cant remember for sure). It's a police or military style uniform called Concord Elite.
Anyhow, recently I found a use for it in some artwork I'm doing and I am missing some of the texture files from my runtime (I use poser 11). I went to look through my purchases throughout the years figuring I'd re-download it and reinstall it. But I can't find it listed among anything I've ever bought from Daz. And it no longer appears in the store anywhere as I suspect it's been retired because it was an older product. I'm not sure why it's not showing in my account as something I purchased. Over the years I've switched computers a few times due to upgrades and hardware issues, but as far as I can remember, my account name and such at Daz has never changed. My e-mail address has changed during that time, for sure. I'm wondering if there's any way I can retrieve this product from the archives? Even though it was an older product for older characters, it was certainly a quality product and I'd love to have it back.
Any help on this would truly be appreciated. Many thanks -
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https://web.archive.org/web/20160906204518/http://www.daz3d.com/concord-navy
https://web.archive.org/web/20150509005220/http://www.daz3d.com/gorodin/concord-pathfinders
https://web.archive.org/web/20150509005214/http://www.daz3d.com/gorodin/concord-marines
is a texture set for their bodysuits by looks
Concord Elite, Navy and Pathfinders were for M2, V2 and V3. They were made by Gorodin.
Can't help you get them as sharing of files probably (read that as "definitely would" :) ) goes against Daz policy but the packages haven't been fully withdrawn as they are still present in my library. So Daz should have access to some archive with them. Whether they still have the licence to distribute, I can't say.
Best suggestion is to send in a ticket to Daz Support and they should be able to help you. I've found the store codes for the 4 packages that you can quote.
The Pathfinder package was SKU1215,
Navy package was SKU1254
And the Elite package was SKU1713 for Mike and SKU1712 for Vicky.
Hope this helps as these have stood the test of time quite well. Shame Gorodin never built onwards for this series.
V2 and M2 sets required the corresponding bodysuits as they had texture overlays to represent separate clothing. The M3 and V3 sets had a helmet, body armor, boots and belt. No pants though.
As said, they have stood the test of time. Here's G8M wearing a M3 bodysuit with the M3 outfit fitting with thanks to the M3 clone script. Building is the Cyberpunk Building available in the store. Pose and radio is Zeddicus Police pose set for G8.
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Well, I would post a render but Daz's servers are again reporting 500 errors when trying to upload pictures. So please forgive the trip but here is the render over on DevArt. Image is safe for work but be warned, other images may not be. When Daz finally fix their screwy servers, I'll repost the image here and avoid the connecting flight to another site. Or if a Mod can copy the image over for me, I can delete the image and link.
https://www.deviantart.com/beyondrescue/art/ConcordElite-M3-973417371
Hint: It's always worth checking through the legacy products in the store as some are still value for money, even for the latest figures.
...that looks really good, may have to dust off a few of my old favourites. Sadly even G1 and 2F skirts/dresses tend to get an odd triangular distortion in the middle front area that even Fit Control doesn't fix.
I'll definitely look into opening a ticket with Daz support. In the meantime, Pugwash you mentioned looking at legacy products. I'd sure love to take a look, but I'm not sure how.... how does one do that?
Legacy is just the very old Daz products, basically anything that predates G2, so the original Mike and Vicky and all their variants (David, Stephanie, Aiko, Freak etc) all through to Genesis 1. When you search on the store for something, use the filters at the left side of the screen to only select M3, M4, V3, V4 and Genesis figures. That will bring up all the older stuff, most of which can still be converted with RiverArts Software's apps. Or you can use the M3/V3 and M4/V4 clones from Sickleyield (I think) to help autofit them to G3 and G8.
Cool thing about those legacy products is that most of them are often in the sales for pennies or they're in the Daz+ club for a couple of bucks.
The filters on the ledt will only let me go back as far as Michael/Victoria 4
Just sort by New Arrivals, and work back from the last page.
Depends on what you are searching for. The more selective search, the less items are available. And if there are no products that match, the options won't be there (though, it could also be Daz's website again).
I've just looked at todays (Sundays) sale and of 14000 available items, M2, M3 and M4 all appear but in small amounts.
(Unable to attach pic still).
M1+2 - 2 items
M3 - 41 items
M4 - 185 items
Hiro 4 - 61 items
) and have posted the pic at DevArt due to the ongoing Daz server upload problem. It's to give you an idea of what's around still. If you were to look at other web stores, they may well have further legacy products tucked away.
M4 Elite - 30 items.
The philosophy is to keep looking. Some days there may be nothing worth more than a glance. Others, you'll find the pot of gold.
From the main store, I've screenshotted all the legacy items available (the filter list, not each individual item
https://www.deviantart.com/beyondrescue/art/Daz-Legacy-Products-973484152 (Image is work safe. But the rest of site, please treat as NSFW)
This is as of 7am GMT Mon 24 July 2023. Daz can pull these products at any time so this isn't a guaranteed list.
Downloaded all content, so I don't have an issue.
As I go through my content and use the Daz site to add some information to the Excel file I set up as an overview, I realized that some content (even G8 related) is available in my Product Library, but there is no link to the product page (View Product Page). Fortunately I copied all this information to a Word File. Nevertheless it shows that old content might be no longer available to be purchased or even be removed from the store.
Honestly some V4 content is already older than 15 years. So, I understand that to a certain extend.
I still use V4 and M4 content but only on first generation Genesis 1 because they work by default. They are great for filling up the midgrounds and backgrounds for scenes, and some of the clothing are so well built by master modellers, that they still look great. Only need some minor texture tweaking to work in Iray. I generally dont do cross generation conversions.
Personal choice and I respect that. It's certainly not something that works for everyone or with every product. Personally, I don't like to buy something and not feel I've got my moneys worth out of it. So to buy a $15-$20 converter app and extend the life of something that I enjoy using really does work for me, and as an (extremely) amateur 3D artist, justifies the process needed to myself. I'm not selling my art so this meagre expenditure satifies my needs.
For example. I love Syltermermaids V4 textures, not just for themselves but they work well with most of the output jpegs I get from Faceshop 6, especially her Pia set. I like FS6 more so than Abalone's recent versions of Headshop and Daz's Face Transfer so to use those head textures and morphs that I've already created only needs a texture converter for V4-G8 (thank you Blacksmith3D) and D3D's V4-G3 morph converter coupled with RiverArts Software's G3-G8 character converter. Trying to recreate the characters I've already made with the new apps hasn't worked yet and would add too much additional work to make a render worthwhile.
It's whatever you are happy with.
Never mind wrong product
I never checked under the hood, but the reason I don't do the conversions, is I have a suspicion that the conversion process generates a lot of additional data for those models leading to longer load times.
As you said, each artist decides what works best for them.
True for some products and the effects are not limited to longer loading times.