Genesis 3 a workaround

WendyLuvsCatz

what you need

• GenX by Dimension3D http://www.daz3d.com/dimension3d
• A clone shape product, I used the Genesis 2 male one for genesis 3 male http://www.daz3d.com/genesis-3-male-for-genesis-2-male-s but one that suits figure you are going to convert to will do

what you are doing

converting the mesh to a Carrara compatible figure but keeping mesh and shaping morphs

you need GenX as the pose morphs will not work so you add the morphs for another compatible figure

 

the workflow

• use GenX to inject the desired facial pose morphs, expressions, visemes, blinks etc it can be from Victoria 4 even as long as morphs not controls, 
• load the figure and your desired target, I used genesis 3 male and genesis 2 male
• fit to
• choose full body
• save as support asset actor

thats it

easy

OK it will work in Carrara and use poses in my case for Genesis 2 and with tweaking earlier poses

it can use facial expressions under genX so a mimic dmc for the figure you sourced them from will need those and prob moved to the head in edit mode mover, not tried yet only dialed some in so far.

some textures/materials load most do not depends how the PA saved them, 3DU little ones and Jolab's Torak worked for me most others got an error, resaving in D|S may work I still need to find the best way.

Otherwise load maps manually.

I will add updates to this thread and videos as I play with it

 

 

 

 

as you see from video some morph presets will load but can tell you now most will crash Carrara to the desktop

dialing the best action

and it can only use those you have when you saved the figure

if you buy more you need to resave it as a support asset

 

 

oh it can wear most clothes for your target figure out the box too.

 

 

WendyLuvsCatz

video with expressions

I have since brought G2M visemes over with GenX but not getting them on head for Mimic using mover, might have to edit the dmc instead

magaremoto

my time to say scary..but cool

this looks like a new arrival: http://www.daz3d.com/genesis-3-uvs-for-genesis-2-male-s

WendyLuvsCatz

magaremoto said:

my time to say scary..but cool

this looks like a new arrival: http://www.daz3d.com/genesis-3-uvs-for-genesis-2-male-s

geografts

not gonna work in Carrara 

 

WendyLuvsCatz

I am having no luck with Mimic either

I saved it in PoserPro2012 using DSON loader as a cr2 and loaded it in Mimic pro and dragged the visemes from the body on the object tree to the window but unless on head do not seem to want to work

they should, other things have had on body

notepad editing gave me no love either

the G2M visrmes work but short of creating nla clips for them all cannot drive with mimic

Dartanbeck

So I'm not sure I follow your initial instructions.

Are you making a Genesis 3 morph for Genesis 2? Or using Genesis 3 mesh as clothing for Genesis 2? It's kinda vague what we're supposed to do there.

Either way, if you can get facial morphs working in Carrara, Mimic Pro for Carrara should work. Just make your own adjustments as NLA and it should work - I'd think.

Dartanbeck

Oh... I forgot to add: Thanks! This is so cool! 

Too involved for me, but I know that there are many people who will be happy to try this!

WendyLuvsCatz

is making as clothing

just autofit then save as support asset

only involved part is adding the g2M visemes with genX but if you adding other morphs with genX anyway just a few extra ticks

and yes could do by making NLA clips manually

Dartanbeck

Cool 

I might have to try it just for fun. I'd have to get GenX first.

Just a thought, if it's using Genesis 3 as a clothing item for Genesis 2, wouldn't the Genesis 2 expressions work on the conformed Genesis 3 clothing?

Part of my issue with using Genesis or Genesis 2 for Rosie is that her expressions deform (slightly - bit enough to look really odd in animations) her auto-fit V4 hair.

I started the process of making my own G2F Rosie hair, but never finished it. Maybe one day?

WendyLuvsCatz

it would if you loaded it on Genesis 2 as clothing prob

Dartanbeck

ToeJam said:

it would if you loaded it on Genesis 2 as clothing prob

Now I'm lost. I thought you just said that's what we're doing here?

WendyLuvsCatz

do not need GenX just if wanting to add morphs you could as you said load it on a genesis 2 and hide that

WendyLuvsCatz

Dartanbeck said:

ToeJam said:

it would if you loaded it on Genesis 2 as clothing prob

Now I'm lost. I thought you just said that's what we're doing here?

well I saved like clothing but used it by itself

WendyLuvsCatz

I was using autofit to convert it to G2M rigging so it worked in Carrara

not as a wearable

but using the process used to fit clothing to do it

WendyLuvsCatz

and no seems loading it as clothing the visemes do not work either

 

Dartanbeck

Wow... I see! That's really cool! 

Stezza

I got George for G3 into Carrara... and wearing the Santa suit for G3 as well.. by just using G2 & GenX

Q. Is there a utility that transforms G3 maps to G2 and G1?

I actually bought my first G3 products ever!.... just to see if it worked of course 

 

magaremoto

really great find... got a carrara 9 with few bucks

chickenman

http://www.daz3d.com/genesis-3-uvs-for-genesis-2-male-s

but it uses geografting so not good for us directly.

WendyLuvsCatz

well my way you do get to use the skin

Dartanbeck

ToeJam said:

well my way you do get to use the skin

Meaning that the Genesis 3 UVs remain intact! ;)

WendyLuvsCatz

Dartanbeck said:

ToeJam said:

well my way you do get to use the skin

Meaning that the Genesis 3 UVs remain intact! ;)

well it is the Genesis 3 mesh

WendyLuvsCatz

I may this weeking try and create some NLA clips to populate mimic pro for Carrara

using the Genesis 2 visemes if anyone adds them with GenX

Dartanbeck

ToeJam said:

Dartanbeck said:

ToeJam said:

well my way you do get to use the skin

Meaning that the Genesis 3 UVs remain intact! ;)

well it is the Genesis 3 mesh

Right. That's what I meant... Just trying to clarify a bit ;)