Adult Content Category
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Let's face it, at least 30% of DAZ users are using it to make adult content. The most frequent threads are about gen issues. The biggest issue artists whine about is the lack of gen material available at a reasonable cost from DAZ. Why not just create a category for Adult Content. This category could contain how-to threads, suggestions, faqs and provide a place for artists to go and get help without worrying about offending someone or slogging through dozens of threads before finally getting to something helpful.
Just a suggestion.
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I think your 30% is a number plucked out of the air, and threads on the anatomical elements certainly aren't the majority. Daz wants its site to be broadly available, having an "adult" section would certainly lead to more filters blocking it so aside from any other considerations it's unlikely to happen.
I hope this doesn't happen because I don't want to open up Daz and see penises looking at me.
There is another whole site pretty much 100% dedicated to Adult content, so I see no reason why Daz needs to introduce it here.
Mm... I think most threads are about people having trouble with installing content properly, and render issues. There's also a lot of "Who is that character/what is that dress", and such. The times when gens pop up is either when people don't know/complain about them being only in the pro packs, or the cases when there's no separate texture for the gens in a character. Of course, there are certain product-related issues, like geoshell stuff and such, but it's not really happening that often.
You might have better serach results, by the way, if you use Google search on the forum.
Honestly, I'm rather glad that there's no adult section here, if there was, I wouldn't even be able to look at the forum in my lunch break. The shop's already off limits at work with all the naked skin...
Renderotica has a designated forum for issues regarding adult stuff in rendering, though, maybe that's the better solution if people are in dire need for things that can't be answered here due to TOS.
Exactly, there is a whole 3rd party site that has all the stuff that people who want it can go to.. And because of that there is no need for Daz to have that sort of thing..
There is the fact that the home office for Daz, where it is located, does not have adult establishments (selling adult content would more than likely have the CIty consider the company an adult establishment of some sort since they would be providing something of adult natured content to the public) is not even listed in the city's zoning codes for the area where the building sits. This means, in easy terms, that if they sold anything directed to adult content they would be in direct violation of the city's laws, and fines would be handed out and they'd risk losing their establishment getting shut down. To me, it is a smart business choice- don't sell it, don't have to move the company (I do believe the City they are in does not allow any adult oriented businesses, but I didn't check every code) or risk high fines and loss of business license.
Yay for the day job-comes in handy sometimes.
I don't think the OP was saying create an adult content store or open up the forums to posting adult work. I read it to be more of a help/faq/tips thread that is a sticky. He/she didn't mention the store. Could be wrong tho (in which case, I wouldn't be for that either).
I think there was a product long time ago that had a full frontal promo of I think Michael 2 or 3. I was upset about that especially with no warning. I rather days not have an adult section. I do not want my roommate think I am looking at porn.
I would make an educated guess and say that the percentage of people making adult content is higher than 30 percent. :-) however without polls it is impossible to know for sure.
At any rate I'm content with how daz store works. There are other stores if you want to buy erotic stuff. The store tries to be family friendly although it seems to be increasingly more mature they do try to maintain a balance.
As soon as you say "Adult Content" you are opening up a can of worms. The term itself is taken to include Pornography or images of sexual acts, Nudity intended to sexually arouse the viewer, Graphic photos or videos and Fetishes, and not just in Utah, Even Google won't put their advertising platform (Adsence) on sites that contain “Pornography, adult, or mature content,”
This is true; it's ridiculous to imagine a 'how-to' thread on adult content that was picture free. And once there are pictures, Daz is suddenly hosting porn in its forums and galleries. Porn has its place but I was happy I could tell the parent of an aspiring young 3D artist that the Daz forums were a safe place to browse for advice. And I'm personally happy that Daz is run with an eye towards a modicum of taste.
Just learn it behind the barn like in the old days.
Seems like a simple fix is in.
Another set sells that stuff. THEY should provide the tech support (FAQ,Links,Tutorials,troubleshooting,hints, tips, tricks etc) for their products.
As an idea, I think it makes sense, but the logistics and the tone is problematic.
Plus, there would be, literally EVERY CATEGORY here doubled with another 'adult heading'.
What I usually say to some people with ideas like these - if you really believe it would work so well or easily, Do it! Make your own DultDaz.com (please don't use that name) that specializes in exactly that, If the interest is that high, you can make a killing.
And probably get some customers from here who want racier stuff or adult animations- not as far as sex, but romantic animations. You know, they are about to....
Racier clothing - etc....romantic environments...
There are sites that already exist, you don't need to make your own. The one most often mentioned here even begins with the same letters as another of the big 3d sites if you want similarity.
I don't think this site needs an Adult section, but I can see how some buyers may want to see a whole product without swim suits covering things up and maybe there could be links for promos (with warnings) to sites hosted outside of Utah just so PAs could show their products in their entirety in a non-sexual way, just a store mannequin sort of way... There is a big difference between pornography and simply a promo for a product. Nudity can be seen in museums and major upscale art galleries and art shows all over the world and is not considered pornography.
As a side note, UT does in fact have "adult" businesses in both entertainment and novelty. :) There are also bars here. LOL Though some of the drinking laws are pretty strict as to what and how they are mixed. Had a friend come visit once who couldn't figure out why he still felt totally sober after several drinks. Ummmm....because the amount of alcohol in a drink is very limited. :D
It's a great state to live in. People often sterotype UT and think it is something it isn't. I have lived in very liberal (not in the political sense) areas that had stricter laws...
Oh, I figured there would be something in there, somewhere, for that sort of entertainment. Usually is, but in the zoninng area the actual building is in, it isn't allowed-which is why I think the company may have a stand on it they way they do. I could be wrong, I am not a zoning officer for that jurisdiction so I don't know the complete ordinance, but I've researched a few businesses that have sites in the same zoning area, so there's a bit of background on that point. I try not to stereo type anything- it often leads to misinformation. ;)
Haha...that is does. And not directing it at you. :)
I used to always go to the Sundance Film Festival and there was tons of alcohol at all the parties but at restaurants and Deer Valley private condos. There was only one bar that I can recall, and they had a guy at the front who yelled "I'm sponsoring them" or something like that to anyone who walked in and then they could drink. I can't remember if the alcohol was any weaker than normal but I may have already been drunk from a previous party LOL. I think most Utah state laws are broken during the Sundance Film Festival, it's too lucrative for the state!
Just my opinion but I think the "Elephant in the Room" that is being avoided by those who know the answer... is that the mainstream advertizing platforms (like adwords) that DAZ relies on for its growth will not accept adult search keyword terms and topics in its destination link. So to compromise the mainstream marketing kind of negates any oppertunities and advantages the adult theme may afford. Its a perfectly resonable business position and its also supports the higher standards and community ethics the Utah company stands for. I am glad this vendor appreciates being a good coprorate citizen. It allows the seedy side of 3d to thrive in the shadows.
Note, thread title could use an improvement to further avoid interest by trolls and especially search bots looking for just those terms. ;D
Well, the DAZ site is kind of funny - at least for me as a European.
In the store and the gallery we meet all kinds of violence. There are deadly weapons, armours, all kinds of creatures, monsters and demons. We can even buy pruducts to drench our characters in blood and slime. But a bare nipple? Oh my god, we cannot do that. That´s not family friendly!?!
Just my opinion but I think te "Elephant in the Room" that is being avoided by those who know the answer... is that the mainstream advertizing platforms (like adwords) that DAZ relies on for its growth will not accept adult search keyword terms and topics in its destination link. So to compromise the mainstream marketing king of negates any oppertunities and advantages the adult theme may afford. Its a perfectly resonable business position and its also supports the higher standards community ethic the Utah company stands for. I am glad this vendor appreciates being a good coprorate citizen. It allows the seedy side of 3d to thrive in the shadows.
Note: Revise thread title to avoid opertunistic trolls and searchs/bots based on these particular keyword triggers.
America...
The irony is that Daz contains a lot of adult content all over its store. I'm embarrassed to open the store page in front of my wife with these scantily clad women featured nearly every day. This is a site for 3d art? Um, what kind of 3d art is that? Good grief, look at today's feature, with bikini's and nightwear at the very top of the page. I think the op has pretty valid point there, because if you think those items aren't being frequently used for that kind of content, you are pretty naive. What are they getting made for?
Exactly this. And as others have said, there's an entire site dedicated to it. Daz doesn't need it here. If you don't know the website, I'm sure someone will be happy to PM or email you about it.
I am all for an adult section, if nothing else to display nude promos for products. 80%+ of the images I create have some form of nudity. I would be very curious if DAZ split the site into adult oriented and totally PG rated for those that render kids and no gore/violence which one would get the most traffic. I am glad renderotica exists, but for many it is too over the top and has a 3D porn reputation attached to it. Adult oreinted doesn't mean porn in many cases.
For now, if DAZ sold more adult oriented products including genitals with base figures, allowed tame adult oriented images in the gallery with fliters and allowed basic nudity in forum posts and on product promos, I would be happy!
I have always felt if a character creator has an issue with nudity, they should switch to making props or poses instead, LOL.
...great place if you are a skier and the city is so close to many of the best areas.
I live in one of those "liberal" states. All our liquor stores are state owned, generally close early (around 19:00), and are not open on Sundays. You can only purchase beer, ale, hard cider, and wine in privately run markets. Pubs and restaurants with lounges need a different licence for "full service" sales (hard alcohol) than to just serve beer, cider, and wine.
When I moved to Washington State from Wisconsin back in 1980, not only were liquor stores run by the state there, but you couldn't even by "strong" beer or ale (above 5% ABV) in regular markets. That eventually was relaxed with the growth of craft brewing and a couple, years ago, a measure to allow for private liquor outlets was passed.
Meanwhile back in Milwaukee Wisconsin you could buy booze at a Kohl's or Sentry supermart.
Its just this enthusiasm for erotic art that IS generating all the skimpware sales and focus on skin but it will not get beyond this, especially in text. This converstaion is racking up the keywords.
Sounds like Virginia, where I grew up. What you had to go through to get a bottle of wine was insane. Moved to Illinois and you can buy it anywhere- grocery store, convenience store, liquor store. Booze is all over the place. Gun laws are very strict here, as are ordinances for adult entertainment, though there are still plenty of both everywhere. Go figure!
Chicago and St. Louis suburbs make this a blue state, but county-wise, it's 96% red. Kind of a bipolar state, LOL.
Daz has plenty of "adult" content. I think the clothing has tilted towards less edgy content (Lilith 6 versus Lilth 7?), but you also have the improvements to the Anatomical "Don't Call the A**s G******a" Elements... and IMO, Daz should be commended.
There's always DeviantArt or the other certain site that has very adult-oriented materials. Daz really doesn't need to encroach on the territory of the more naughty, IMO.
And there's already OOT and i13 and others who produce things for this very site that should appeal to the folks (like me) who like some skin.
Outside of Northern VA, and it is all red. Its only because of the population boom of the northern counties that is has swung blue in recent years, so it is similar to Ill in how a smaller section of the state turns an otherwise conservative state blue. And they recently just tried making legislation so that VA's electorial votes would be split...