DAZ Studio fps working limits

chase canadechase canade Posts: 0
edited January 2013 in The Commons

Hi - a quick question really.

What is the fps working limits of DAZ Studio? For both real time preview and export?

is it 240fps...? 120fps? etc etc...

thanx

chase

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    I think you are probably talking about Daz Studio. DAZ 3D is the Company.

  • chase canadechase canade Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Hi - a quick question really.

    What is the fps working limits of DAZ Studio? For both real time preview and export?

    is it 240fps...? 120fps? etc etc...

    thanx

    chase

    changed it to suit and the answer to this question is...???

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited April 2013

    You will need to wait for a DS animation user to come along and asnswer that question, as I don't know the answer, sorry.

    Thanks for editing the name to make it less confusing.

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  • JimmyC_2009JimmyC_2009 Posts: 8,891
    edited December 1969

    I don't know what any limits might be on export, but I just set it to 1200 in the timeline with no errors, and the preview works. It rendered when saved as an AVI file, is that what you mean?

  • bighbigh Posts: 8,147
    edited December 1969

    Hi - a quick question really.

    What is the fps working limits of DAZ Studio? For both real time preview and export?

    is it 240fps...? 120fps? etc etc...

    thanx

    chase

    changed it to suit and the answer to this question is...???

    I have done 180fps ( didn't render it - render it at 30 or 60 fps ) - there is no real time preview - you can run the animation timeline to see it - but it will not look the same as the render . Hope that's what you want to know .

  • tsaristtsarist Posts: 1,614
    edited December 1969

    Hi - a quick question really.

    What is the fps working limits of DAZ Studio? For both real time preview and export?

    is it 240fps...? 120fps? etc etc...

    thanx

    chase

    I, and everyone else reading this knew you were talking about Daz Studio.
    No need to call it Daz Studio.
    In the real world I and everyone else I know always call it Daz.
    .
    That said, I have done small projects with up to 96fps.

    Best of luck!

  • jestmartjestmart Posts: 4,449
    edited December 1969

    Don't understand why you would want to go any higher than the typical and generally accepted standard 30fps.

  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165
    edited January 2013

    If i understand your question correctly than as BigH said there is no real time rendering preview. its not like pixar render-man or 3dsmax Vray. the best you can do is scrub the timeline back and forth to preview your animation work progress or you can render without shadow maps to see your test renders. But they won't look the same as your final renders with light shadow maps.which will be a max of 8 light maps with a good graphic card. Though if you have Maya you can FXB import your scene into the Maya program and i found that works great for real time rendering preview. Also I found the best rendering for animation using daz is 29.9 or 30 frames per seconds(fps) in AVI format & saved in cine-pak codex for optimal file size. or if your building an animation with single renders graphics then 24 frames per seconds would be best because you would need to render less individual graphics to make the key-frames. Best rendering resolution i found to work for me is 1920 x1080HD @72dpi unless you are making Imax videos than you need to render at 3000 x2500 pixels. Also the best video editor i found to work with daz renders is Adobe premiere pro. . But there are many other options, but those are what i use for my animations. I hope that helps, make sure to post your results.& good luck :)

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  • chase canadechase canade Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    hmmmm.

    Well - thank you all very much for answering my question.

    Thank you for the Maya tip for sure.

    Export - is there a cap on export?
    - from what I'm reading above - the limit is...60fps? it auto resets it i take it or is that for a particular file format?
    - just to be sure or can it go higher?
    Did it export at 1,200fps as Jimmy C tried or was the final reset by DAZ?

    again thank you all for the responses
    chase

  • bighbigh Posts: 8,147
    edited December 1969

    hmmmm.

    Well - thank you all very much for answering my question.

    Thank you for the Maya tip for sure.

    Export - is there a cap on export?
    - from what I'm reading above - the limit is...60fps? it auto resets it i take it or is that for a particular file format?
    - just to be sure or can it go higher?
    Did it export at 1,200fps as Jimmy C tried or was the final reset by DAZ?

    again thank you all for the responses
    chase

    the 1200 are frames - not fps
    file size - don't know of limit - maybe 4g.

  • chase canadechase canade Posts: 0
    edited January 2013

    bigh said:

    the 1200 are frames - not fps
    file size - don't know of limit - maybe 4g.

    Thanx for clarifying bigh
    on the export file - actually I was meaning file properties of the export and the fps limit.

    I got with someone familiar with the animation side of DAZ last night and went over the animation timeline and export limits.

    But hey - thank you very much everyone again for the tips - and the responses.

    till next time

    Happy rendering,
    chase

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  • jorge dorlandojorge dorlando Posts: 1,157
    edited December 1969

    Ivy said:
    If i understand your question correctly than as BigH said there is no real time rendering preview. its not like pixar render-man or 3dsmax Vray. the best you can do is scrub the timeline back and forth to preview your animation work progress or you can render without shadow maps to see your test renders. But they won't look the same as your final renders with light shadow maps.which will be a max of 8 light maps with a good graphic card. Though if you have Maya you can FXB import your scene into the Maya program and i found that works great for real time rendering preview. Also I found the best rendering for animation using daz is 29.9 or 30 frames per seconds(fps) in AVI format & saved in cine-pak codex for optimal file size. or if your building an animation with single renders graphics then 24 frames per seconds would be best because you would need to render less individual graphics to make the key-frames. Best rendering resolution i found to work for me is 1920 x1080HD @72dpi unless you are making Imax videos than you need to render at 3000 x2500 pixels. Also the best video editor i found to work with daz renders is Adobe premiere pro. . But there are many other options, but those are what i use for my animations. I hope that helps, make sure to post your results.& good luck :)

    That means that someone doing an animation, say to a DVD, you can choose 24 frames per second, instead of 29.9 / 30fps?
    And so to 1920 by 1080? Simple as that?

  • adamr001adamr001 Posts: 1,322
    edited December 1969

    Since you can export to per frame image sequences, you can have your FPS at any conceivable number you can stand to wait for the render to finish.

  • jorge dorlandojorge dorlando Posts: 1,157
    edited December 1969

    adamr001 said:
    Since you can export to per frame image sequences, you can have your FPS at any conceivable number you can stand to wait for the render to finish.

    But I wanted to ask this:
    a DVD with 24 / 20.9 and / or 30 fps ... a tv has the ability to run any of these?
    Or 24 fps, is not just for movie screen?

  • adamr001adamr001 Posts: 1,322
    edited January 2013

    adamr001 said:
    Since you can export to per frame image sequences, you can have your FPS at any conceivable number you can stand to wait for the render to finish.

    But I wanted to ask this:
    a DVD with 24 / 20.9 and / or 30 fps ... a tv has the ability to run any of these?
    Or 24 fps, is not just for movie screen?720p is specified as 60 frames per second. A 240Hz TV is capable of quite a bit higher than that (generally 60fps x 8 phase backlight scanning to reduce motion blur). They can also use dejuddering to insert interpolated frames (usually x4 so 60x4 = 240fps to go with your 240Hz LED TV) to fill the gaps, but this leads to "ultrasmoothing" or the Soap Opera effect. This bothers some people, others don't notice it. Almost all current TVs do one or both methods (and it's generally selectable) though the terminology might differ.

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  • chase canadechase canade Posts: 0
    edited February 2013

    adamr001 said:
    adamr001 said:
    Since you can export to per frame image sequences, you can have your FPS at any conceivable number you can stand to wait for the render to finish.

    But I wanted to ask this:
    a DVD with 24 / 20.9 and / or 30 fps ... a tv has the ability to run any of these?
    Or 24 fps, is not just for movie screen?

    720p is specified as 60 frames per second. A 240Hz TV is capable of quite a bit higher than that (generally 60fps x 8 phase backlight scanning to reduce motion blur). They can also use dejuddering to insert interpolated frames (usually x4 so 60x4 = 240fps to go with your 240Hz LED TV) to fill the gaps, but this leads to "ultrasmoothing" or the Soap Opera effect. This bothers some people, others don't notice it. Almost all current TVs do one or both methods (and it's generally selectable) though the terminology might differ.


    fyi - the TV does not interpolate the frames - it simply refreshes the signal given of the frame at that moment in time.
    Hence 1fps on a 60hz tv is refreshed 60 times per second. or there abouts. 120hz - 120 times a second and so on.

    As for DVD - it depends - Blue Ray and you'll have to verify this as I'm going by memory - does or does not recognize the 24fps time signature. I beleive it recognizes the 29fps

    Were as DVD HD does and recongnizes various time signatures - however it also depends on the container - vob being used primarily for Movie distribution "DVD's" is what those figures above represent.

    A different container - well that can be pretty much anything - 24 / 29/ 30 / 15 / 12 / 48 / 60 / 120 / 240 etc etc etc.
    DVD contaners - VOB are changing as well to accept more fps rates - though this statement needs verification as I again am going from memory on the VOB container.

    I don't use vob's so... don't care about it and most of todays DVD players including BlueRay play a variety of containers.
    Then again - who watches TV these days - or uses a seperate DVD player?
    I don't and haven't in years. All movies I watch via comp - though most of the distributed movies are in VOB format - even the ones I watch or have.

    Things are changing... thankfully.

    And 120hz and 240hz used to be a standard with CRT's and TV's - especially the more quality minded or Pro Graphics CRT's
    I used to own one - a lot of todays LED displays are just using it as hype as digital caught up.

    Like HD which never included 720... it was always and still is 1080 - that was just a sales trick to get you to buy an inferior product.

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