Polonaise Dress Set by Sergemark?
JOdel
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There's a texture set for this in Rendo's freebies this morning. The artist claims that it's been sitting around on his or her hard drive for quite a while. It appears to be a reasonably nice, sort of 18th century dress but there is no further information as in what figure it was even supposed to be for. It could be for anything all the way back to V1 or one of the Poser people.
Needless to say, a search for it on Rendo turned up nothing.
Anyone know anything about this product? I'm always interested in period stuff.
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Possibly this one?:
http://www.sharecg.com/v/39909/gallery/11/Poser/Polonaise-for-V4
...Nope, sorry. Obviously the wrong one.
I thought that Sergemark did some poser clothing for milgirls, vicky etc... a LONG LONG time ago. They were kind of amazing, but a lot of them were for older figures or dynamic and back in the old days I only had Studio, so I could only envy.
Unless it is a different person than I'm thinking. But I don't know if the one I'm thinking of still has a site up or not. It was a really long time ago...
Scary, for a while there I had no option to post a reply :gulp:
Anyway, Serge Marck made some nice free clothes for V1-3, M3, and the Mil Girls. The last items he made were for the Poser 6 figures. I was surprised that I still had the link to his website and that it still works.
http://poserfashion.net/
That definitely *seems* to be the artist, but the dress referenced isn't there. The freebie vendor's comments made it sound like something that wouldn't be easily put into service. Some of the stuff on the site looks very nice indeed. But again, not readily usable.
Thanks all!
Serge's site has been very much inactive for some time now, and most of his old stuff is not there any more.
THey were taken off and put on to a CD, which was sold by another site, with most of the add on textures included. I can't even think of the name of the site now.
http://poserfashion.net/ Is where you will find what is left on his site.
Beware there are spam ads on a lot of the pages.
For some reason Kathleen Predmore of cloudlandcastle.net sticks in my brain as maybe being the person who had the old Serge stuff,
In fact I eventually chased this down http://cloudlandcastle.net/poserfashions_cd_collection.html
http://cloudlandcastle.net/thestorefront4.html#CD
Complete with a link to 3DCommune...
There's some stuff there that would be nice to have refitted to a current figure, but I suspect that some of the most promising may be Poser dynamic.
No clear sign of the dress the freebie texture was for though. I suspect that one is a dead loss to anyone who doesn't already have the item.
I do have a feeling that the list of what's on the Serge Marck's CD is somewhat lacking, as I recall it there was far more than that. I can remember it was supposed to have all my textures I had done as well, but I didn't get them all gathered up and sent over in time for when they wanted to finalise the content. Coulld possibly contact Kathleen, there should be a contact us thing on the site somewhere, I would have thought.
Most of the stuff on the CD was for Posette as I recall, but I have successfully fitted it to other figures when kit bashing.
Well, it is vanishingly unlikely that I'm going to be able to make use of it. But there are others who may. Quite a few of the outfits are quite nice, in the way that a lot of stuff for Gen2 was nice. Looked like things that real people may have actually worn.
When searching for old freebies the Wayback Machine is you friend. Sometimes you get lucky, and in this case we do.
Period P4
The ZIP on the download page doesn't work, but the .exe installer does. The dress is untextured, you get the textures from the link (no picture) at the top. Most of the .exe's there work, but curiously the only ZIP that works is Eshal's, which appears to be the same textures he's just uploaded to Rendo.
Found the dress...
http://web.archive.org/web/20020124120146/http://www.poserfashion.net/files/P4period/polonaise.exe
It's for P4 woman...but dang, it's a nice dress...
This is the dress draped over Genesis...not fitted or anything...it's not been resized, just translated on Y, a little. No way that Autofit would work on it, and I'm pretty sure that SY's new product won't be able to handle it either...so to be useful it would need to be completely rigged, by hand. But looking at the construction, I can't believe it's a twelve year old product...
Dang...see what happens when waiting on a render....
Great minds... :)
Oh, better and better! I'm on a Mac and even the .exe file is blocking me! This dress flatly does NOT want me to use it! Ah well, there have been more recent models for around the same period.
I suppose the only way *anyone* is going to use this with anything other than the Poser4 woman is through CrossDresser or Wardrobe wizard.
Some of the things (particularly around the edges of the Sergemark home page, but I don't know whether those are actually models) look astoundingly nice. But from where I'm standing, the whole issue is kind of an artifact that surfaced briefly to no real final purpose. But it's good to see what people managed with what had to be less developed tools.
I got one 'clay' render done, but the light was too bright, so I'm doing another one...
It's something that would look good on a dress dummy in a corner, even...it's possibly one of the most advanced dresses of its time. It's got a bazillion material zones and 'standard' Poser rigging...
The freebie texture at Rendo certainly looked promising. But with the matt zones it would takewell to shaders.
And it transferred a lot easier than I expected. I took it into Blender, made a few fitting adjustments and exported the raw obj. I then imported the fitted obj and ran it through the transfer utility...I didn't do the overdress, yet.
The pz2 file doesn't seem to recognize the weight-mapped dress as it's dress, so I had to hand apply the textures.
Yes, there's tweaking to be done and modern materials to build...but it's a lot more doable than I first thought and looks like it may be worth it. I know I'm going to try some of Serge's other items, I pulled most of what I could from the archive links. A lot of the stuff is pretty nice, even today, and a couple of things don't seem to have more modern counterparts.
That looks really good! I had been thinking that it would be difficult to transfer but that looks very nice...
There's some distortion along the bottom of the skirt when the legs are moved, but...it is such a full skirt that large, overall movements of the whole skirt can cover a lot of leg movement. In fact, upper body poses with some twist added to the skirt are going to be enough to cover most things, except sitting or going up/down stairs. But to handle sitting it would probably need a combination of morphs and ghost bones, anyway...(it's got a bustle the size of Montana as it is...so sitting, is right out).
Here's another one with some 'better' lighting and a start on 'tweaked' materials...
Hi there,
Sorry I forgot to info into the details when I uploaded the file
I originally made the textures for the 1776 polonaise dress - by sergemarck back in 2001 around when the dress was first available. The textures were available on his site along with textures by other various people. I believe they may still be available from the wayback link mentioned earlier http://web.archive.org/web/20011221072441/http://www.poserfashion.net/polonaise.htm. The texutures I have uploaded are updated and altered versions of those that were available on Sergemarcks site.
I am so glad that people are being introduced to serge's work...he made some truly awesome clothing and they deserve love :) I think he would be really wrapped to see them getting a new lease of life on new models.
Regards
~Eshal~
Good day Eshal,
Thank you for your great textures!!
At this link the zip is not working - http://web.archive.org/web/20020613091133/http://www.poserfashion.net/polonaise.htm
But at the link you gave, there is an .exe which works and I have downloaded it. :-) Thank you for that!
But what about the rest, can anyone help or knows if the other period dresses on Serge Marck's pages have .exe's as well since all the zips are broken? :smirk:
I would love to have these dresses as I have very little period style clothing in my collection. I have also seen a hat at this link but zip also broken. Gloria Gast Hat - http://web.archive.org/web/20020805155731/http://www.poserfashion.net/props.htm (any help with this?)
http://web.archive.org/web/20020815153802/http://www.poserfashion.net/1853_daydress_2.htm Such a lovely dress but broken zipz for both characters, P4 woman and V3.
None zips working at this link but great period styles: http://web.archive.org/web/20020816020107/http://www.poserfashion.net/period_p4.htm. Any .exe's?
I was able to get some available stuff from Serge Marck at this (new) link where some zips work, some doesn't - http://poserfashion.net/
I also found a link from there at that time, if I remember correctly, to Valentin who also have great free clothing and still available. I visited these sites about beginning last year. I hope that Serge Marck can be contacted and hopefully released his stuff again.
Ok, here is Valentin's site: http://valentin3d.free.fr/ Also great clothing and characters for Millennium Preteens too among the others!
On my search at the above links I have found a few textures, including those of Chohole still working for Polonaise - in .exe format! Here: http://web.archive.org/web/20011221073402/http://www.poserfashion.net/polonaise_tex.htm
If any do have more links to the above non-working zips it will be so much appreciated!
Kind regards,
Laura
Play around with the different dates and you'll be able to get some more...but not everything is archived. I figure that I got about half to 2/3 of the stuff just by trying all the different crawl dates.