MUH60 Blackhawk Helicopter - any new texture sets?
esther
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Has anyone seen any non-military textures for this?
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I doubt you'll find anyhting, that model's pretty old.
You might look at the Vanishing Point Blackhawk, it has a couple free texture sets available.
Esther
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I don't know if you're married to the idea of the Blackhawk copter or if that's just the copter you own, but this is a nice helicopter...
http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/executive-helicopter-poser-lwo-obj-/28185
It comes with non-military & military textures.
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There are also a number of free textures from the designer (listed near the bottom of the product page).
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Plus it's in Prime, so if you're a member, you're in good shape.
well I kind of liked the blackhawk because of the ropes and poses that go with it, but I do have that one too. what I need though is a helicopter capable of ripping an elevator car through the roof of a building.
If the blackhawk could do that I would go with that one and just keep the military textures. If not, I have been looking at the one from VP - huey at renderosity.
what do you think?
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Rip an elevator through a roof?!
Sounds like you're brewing up a cool "Mission: Impossible" scenario.
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Well, a real Blackhawk is designed to insert troops and I don't think it would be powerful enough, but your viewers don't have to know that (and would probably just suspend disbelief). I did research sometime ago for a script. If I'm not mistaken, a Blackhawk can carry about 6 or 7,000 pounds via cable.
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The Huey at Rendo is nice, but I think a Huey can lift less weight.
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I think the Blackhawk you already own is your best choice.
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Best of luck!
yep - you're right about the story line - and then...
Now i have conflicting advice, because someone else told me the huey can easily lift an elevator????
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I'm just going from memory of something I researched about 2 or 3 years ago, so I could be wrong.
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I'm certain both copters can lift an elevator, but I don't know about through the concrete and whatever keeps the elevator in place.
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Again, I really don't think people will care if you don't try to lift the whole building or something like that.
People just want a good story and they'll forgive a certain amount of error.
I know, but i like to keep the error to a minimum where possible (without spoiling a good story with the facts of course)
According to wikipedia, the current model uh60L can lift up to 9000 lbs externally by sling. So if you're talking an apartment building or high rise elevator, it's most likely possible, If the roof were heavily damaged in some way.
Also, blackhawks are primarily used by the military, so unless your scene specifically calls for a Civilian Helicopter, it'd be best to go with the military textures. Otherwise people might not know what kind of chopper it's supposed to be.
thanks, so I'll probably go with the blackhawk, but do I use the daz one which looks bigger and stronger but lacks modelling detail and good texturing or do I go with the renderosity one which looks better but doesn't look as sturdy?
I'd go with the DAZ one since it actually comes with cables.
I was thinking that too until I tried it in a scene. And it just really lacks detail.
I'll have to keep thinking about it.
I'm resizing the renderosity one but adding some internals from the daz one (which was bigger and more realistic in it's proportions)
I say go with the Blackhawk if you're going for an action romp... having said that, the executive helicopter from VP does make for a good Airwolf mod, though :coolsmile:
Yes, I'm going with the blackhawk renderosity version. I added a few internals.
But now I will also need a good helicopter flight control scene for the inside scenes. I have the EF spy helicopter. what's the best helicopter for controls and internals?
I always thought the blackhawk has a "workhorse" quality about it, and visually powerful. You could probably add some details and logos to the existing textures quite quickly if you needed them.
Esther,
I can tell you for a fact that a Blackhawk will lift an elevator out of its shaft and if roof isn't solid concrete it will take it out of the shaft without even blinking an eye. I watched a Blackhawk lift some pretty heavy loads while working around them in Iraq so I would say that your theory is sound and you could either try to make your own texture or see if someone would be willing to do one for you.
but the elevator is fully loaded...
firstBastion - i am not as clever as you at texturing.
your render looks amazing by the way.
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your one actually looks better FirstBastion, but I'm going with this....
Esther,
I watched a Blackhawk pick up field equipment that weighed several tons with ease I think your full elevator is well within that range. Also The Balckhawk uses a hook mount on the underside of the frame not a winch like you are showing. Also one of the main misconceptions I have seen with some of these images is that the wheels retract for travel, the wheels are actually fully extended during flight and compress upon landing to act as shock absorbers. That is an interesting color scheme, I really like the blue stripe, I am sure that you have probably already looked at this but here is the wikki that might help you out some and feel free to drop me a note if you have questions and I will give you whatever help I can. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_UH-60_Black_Hawk
thanks for all the help with this. Much appreciated.
good news about the elevator but bad news about the rope.
My wheels are fixed by the way - they do not move (so they are probably correct already?)
The rope - I could attach it to the underside of the helicopter. but I would need some kind of mount arrangment. I could probably use the grouping tool to chop of something from some other prop maybe.
The model I have actually has a little side wing dial for the mount for the missiles. Should I use that for the rope?
The daz model doesn't have very good internals for closeups so I was thinking I would use the stinger from daz for the internal driving scene.
shadowhawk, I have another question (if I ever get that far with this project). The leaping girl, after taking over the aircraft is going to be chased by a police chopper (maybe the little bird because that one has a police texture I think). Can she outrun the police whilst toeing the elevator?
Talking of taking over the aircraft. Is there a room on the blackhawk where she can lock the baddies?
Otherwise how is she going to restrain them?
Can she leave the aircraft controls unattended for any period of time, once she is above the buildings?
here's a pic with my old style cable. just so you can get an idea of the police chase environment.
Hey not a problem Esther I have helped you before but under a different name, I used to go by Masterchief2zero here before I changed my name to Shadowhawk1 to go with my accounts. OK you have the VP version that is now at Rendo, I know the VP one has several free texture sets at VP that might give you some play around room. If you like you can email me if you still have it and we can talk some more. I would leave the wheels the way they are it isn't that big a deal, just something I noticed. the same can be said the cable as well. I just looked at the DAZ version and and it is horrible! The VP(Rendo) version is of a far better quality.
actually I am happy with the texture (well apart from a certain lack of rivets etc)
I remember you now.
I've emailed you. You should get it toknight.
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Well the Blackhawk has a max speed of 159 knots (183 miles per hour) but has a never exceed speed of 193 knots (222 MPH) while the little bird has a max speed of 135 knots (155 MPH) So I would say it is possible but the Littlebird is far more maneuverable than the Blackhawk would be carry an elevator underneath it. The seat are mainly aluminum pipe and fabric but there are load points on the floor that could be used to secure cuffs to without a problem. As far as leaving the controls of a Helicopter unattended, not a chance. A helicopter requires constant attention unlike a plane that you can set an autopilot on. Plus you are kind of boxed in by all the controls and the only way in or out of the seat is through the door, unless you want to step on and ruin a bunch of controls that you need to use to fly.
hmmm - that's going to make things tricky.
By the way Esther, did you happen to know about these add on textures? http://www.vanishingpoint.biz/productdetail.asp?productID=26 This is the same helicopter that is sold at Rendo and the add on sets are pretty good.
yep, got that one too.
OK no problem but you know that is three texture expansions right?
yes. but i think the blue stripe one will be okay for what I need. well I hope.