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Dragon Drool

Salem2007Salem2007 Posts: 513
edited February 2013 in Carrara Discussion

I'm trying to use the Carrara particle system to make dragon drool, but I end up with either too many metaballs all seperate or one big metaball that looks like a smoo....

I'm guessing that it has something to do with gravity and collision and the number of shapes.....before I go mad with the endless variables I'm going to have to tweak, has anyone done this before who would be willing to share the setting used?

I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask. Thanks for reading...


I'm trying to do this for an animation---I need a dragon head to rise up, eyes narrow and open mouth letting drool drip and pool on floor. If this was a static image, i'd use post work....

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  • McGuiverMcGuiver Posts: 219
    edited December 1969

    The free PyCloid plugin seems to work the best for me.
    Here is a video I did awhile back to simulate water.
    http://vimeo.com/52197357
    The 0.2
    plugin can be found here:
    http://www.f1oat.org/pycloid/index.html

    You will need to play with the settings, since I was after a thinner liquid than dragon drool. ;)

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  • Salem2007Salem2007 Posts: 513
    edited December 1969

    Thanks...I'll give the plug in a try.

  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 21,533
    edited December 1969

    That's really neat, McGuiver.
    Gonna have to try that. So what's the vertex object in there? Is it an actual mess or something that the plugin uses to make the iso object?

  • McGuiverMcGuiver Posts: 219
    edited February 2013

    Dartanbeck said:
    That's really neat, McGuiver.
    Gonna have to try that. So what's the vertex object in there? Is it an actual mess or something that the plugin uses to make the iso object?

    The vertex object is the object I used to emit the particles. Any object can be a particle emitter.

    Isosurface is what is being emitted (the fluid)...... You could also emit objects.

    I haven't had the time to master the plugin, but it seems to be more versatile than Carrara's built-in particle system.

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  • wetcircuitwetcircuit Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    There is a product at RuntimeDNA that is a morphing drool prop (LOL)
    http://www.runtimedna.com/Morphing-Drool-for-Samedi.html

  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 21,533
    edited December 1969

    McGuiver said:
    Dartanbeck said:
    That's really neat, McGuiver.
    Gonna have to try that. So what's the vertex object in there? Is it an actual mess or something that the plugin uses to make the iso object?

    The vertex object is the object I used to emit the particles. Any object can be a particle emitter.

    Isosurface is what is being emitted (the fluid)...... You could also emit objects.

    I haven't had the time to master the plugin, but it seems to be more versatile than Carrara's built-in particle system.Gonna have to try that. Looks cool how it sheets up once it spills over.

  • zededd2000_ec5053ff19zededd2000_ec5053ff19 Posts: 111
    edited December 1969

    this is probably a very stupid question... but is it possible to use any of this with DAZ?
    make it in carrara and import to daz? import a DAZ file to carrara?

  • evilproducerevilproducer Posts: 9,050
    edited December 1969

    zededd2000 said:
    this is probably a very stupid question... but is it possible to use any of this with DAZ?
    make it in carrara and import to daz? import a DAZ file to carrara?

    You could freeze the particle simulation, and export as a .obj. Not sure how it could be done animated. Maybe a plugin?

    Better yet, just use Carrara! ;-)

  • DUDUDUDU Posts: 1,945
    edited December 1969

    zededd2000 said:
    this is probably a very stupid question... but is it possible to use any of this with DAZ?
    make it in carrara and import to daz? import a DAZ file to carrara?

    What is a "DAZ file" ?

  • evilproducerevilproducer Posts: 9,050
    edited December 1969

    DUDU_00001 said:
    zededd2000 said:
    this is probably a very stupid question... but is it possible to use any of this with DAZ?
    make it in carrara and import to daz? import a DAZ file to carrara?

    What is a "DAZ file" ?

    I think he means DAZ Studio. It is common for people that use Studio just to call it DAZ even though DAZ 3D also has Bryce, Carrara and Hexagon in addition to DAZ Studio.. I usually abbreviate it as D/S, but some prefer D|S or just Studio.

  • zededd2000_ec5053ff19zededd2000_ec5053ff19 Posts: 111
    edited December 1969

    yes, i meant a D|S file. little new to other programs in the DAZ system. all i know is studio.
    Just started mucking around in Carrara actually for this exact thing. i need to render water and slime. the only problem is that I need to learn carrara's features now haha

    thanks for the fast reply :)

  • 3DAGE3DAGE Posts: 3,311
    edited December 1969

    this was one of the first images I ever posted here.

    if you look closely, you'll see the Drool... *made in Carrara's vertex modeller" from an extruded circle.

    If you need animated drool,.. try creating a morph or two,. or add bones and rig it
    you could also add to the effect by creating a simple particle emitter, based on the upper jaw (teeth area) and then emit a few small Drip particles from that (hidden) emitter.

    Hope it helps ::)

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  • evilproducerevilproducer Posts: 9,050
    edited December 1969

    3DAGE said:
    this was one of the first images I ever posted here.

    if you look closely, you'll see the Drool... *made in Carrara's vertex modeller" from an extruded circle.

    If you need animated drool,.. try creating a morph or two,. or add bones and rig it
    you could also add to the effect by creating a simple particle emitter, based on the upper jaw (teeth area) and then emit a few small Drip particles from that (hidden) emitter.

    Hope it helps ::)

    Very nice Andy! I hadn't seen that one before.

  • Design AcrobatDesign Acrobat Posts: 459
    edited December 1969

    McGuiver said:
    The free PyCloid plugin seems to work the best for me.
    Here is a video I did awhile back to simulate water.
    http://vimeo.com/52197357
    The 0.2
    plugin can be found here:
    http://www.f1oat.org/pycloid/index.html

    You will need to play with the settings, since I was after a thinner liquid than dragon drool. ;)

    Any instructions or manual for PyCloid?

  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 21,533
    edited December 1969

    Not really, aside from the sample setups that come with it to check out.

  • TangoAlphaTangoAlpha Posts: 4,584
    edited December 1969

    Anyone know if the plug-in will work on a Mac? It claims to be "for Windows", but since it's a plug-in, is it not machine independent?

    (I'm thinking that maybe I can use it to create splashes and pouring water etc...)

  • Design AcrobatDesign Acrobat Posts: 459
    edited December 1969

    Dartanbeck said:
    Not really, aside from the sample setups that come with it to check out.

    meh, I'll continue to use Lightwave then.

  • evilproducerevilproducer Posts: 9,050
    edited December 1969

    Tim_A said:
    Anyone know if the plug-in will work on a Mac? It claims to be "for Windows", but since it's a plug-in, is it not machine independent?

    (I'm thinking that maybe I can use it to create splashes and pouring water etc...)

    It won't work as it is a Python script or something.

  • TangoAlphaTangoAlpha Posts: 4,584
    edited December 1969

    ah bugger. Oh well. :(

  • DUDUDUDU Posts: 1,945
    edited December 1969

    I tested Pycloid for a long time and I always had crashes !
    Frederic Ribble sent an email to me in which he says that he gave up this project because of the little of success met near the animators.
    When I use the scenes presets, all works well, if I change a parameter, there is an error message, and if I add an object to the scene, there is no more particules emission !
    If somebody has good performances with Pycloid, he must says to us how it goes please !

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