Reality, Lux and Daz Studio

bicc39bicc39 Posts: 589
edited March 2013 in Daz Studio Discussion

Totally ignorance here, but throughout forums and products have come upon references to Reality 2.5
and Lux renders.
A search of Daz products shows nothing,information seems old.
So.
What and where do I buy/install Reality, Lux. for DAZ Studio, cost is not an issue.
Have seen purported renders with these items and wish to acquire them.
Thank you for your help.

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  • JimmyC_2009JimmyC_2009 Posts: 8,891
    edited March 2013

    bicc39 said:
    Totally ignorance here, but throughout forums and products have come upon references to Reality 2.5
    and Lux renders.
    A search of Daz products shows nothing,information seems old.
    So.
    What and where do I buy/install Reality, Lux. for DAZ Studio, cost is not an issue.
    Have seen purported renders with these items and wish to acquire them.
    Thank you for your help.

    Reality is a plugin for DAZ Studio, that allows the use of the Luxrender render engine for DS scenes.

    The Reality plugin is no longer sold in the store here, but can be bought directly from it's creator, Pret-a-3D from his own site. It has been updated to work with the latest version of DS 4.5 Luxrender is a free renderer.

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  • bicc39bicc39 Posts: 589
    edited December 1969

    bicc39 said:
    Totally ignorance here, but throughout forums and products have come upon references to Reality 2.5
    and Lux renders.
    A search of Daz products shows nothing,information seems old.
    So.
    What and where do I buy/install Reality, Lux. for DAZ Studio, cost is not an issue.
    Have seen purported renders with these items and wish to acquire them.
    Thank you for your help.

    Reality is a plugin for DAZ Studio, that allows the use of the Luxrender render engine for DS scenes.

    The Reality plugin is no longer sold in the store here, but can be bought directly from it's creator, Pret-a-3D from his own site. It has been updated to work with the latest version of DS 4.5 Luxrender is a free renderer.

    Generally speaking, do you have them, do they work, can you provide links?
    We are talking about the most recent DAZ Studio.
    A lot to ask, I know, but would appreciate it.

  • StratDragonStratDragon Posts: 3,167
    edited December 1969

    it's $42 on renderosity
    http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/reality-2-for-daz-studio/92598

    there is a 3.0 coming out for Poser, not Daz Studio yet, but a Studio one is in the works. You may qualify for a discount when 3.0 comes out if you want to upgrade. Reality 3 will not be developed for Daz Studio 3.
    the forums for reality are now over at runtimedna.com

    LuxRender is available at
    luxrender.net
    if you have multiple computers on a network it supports batch rendering for free (how cool is that!?)

  • namretteknamrettek Posts: 168
    edited December 1969

    Generally speaking - Yes. I have it, it works and gives great results. It is probably the best way to get realistic renders from DazStudio.

    LuxRender is a physically based and unbiased rendering engine so it creates very realistic images. This also results in long render times. Technically you can stop the render whenever you are happy with the quality - but for me they are usually about 12 hours on an I7 PC with 16 gigs of ram (it of course depends on how large your picture is and what's in it, lighting, materias, etc).

    But if you wanted simmilar result with 3delight - the render times will be way longer and the lights and materials would be MUCH more difficult to set up.

    I haven't used Reality in a while - mostly because I barely use DS 4.5 any more. I am waiting for Reality 3 which is coming out for Poser 9 in a few weeks - it will be released for Daz Studio later this year. So I can't talk about compatability issues at this moment - but Reality is updated ALL the time and VERY well supported.

    Reality is great if you want more realistic images. It is pretty easy to use - but does have a small learning curve. It is a new way to use materials and set up lights - but the lights are much easier to use than Daz Studio or Poser lights.

    Links may be a bit tough since Daz3d no longer likes people posting links to other websites - so if someone posts a link the post may be deleted. Just do a google for Reality and preta3d.


    I can say it is probably the best purcase I ever made for Daz Studio besides M4 and V4.

  • bicc39bicc39 Posts: 589
    edited December 1969

    Many thanks!!!!!

  • StratDragonStratDragon Posts: 3,167
    edited December 1969

    I can respond to the possibly with it was and still is the best add on I ever purchased and a huge factor in getting me to go kicking and screaming into DS4.5.
    If you can get over the long render times in Lux you will find it very simple and effective with some astounding results.

  • Herald of FireHerald of Fire Posts: 3,504
    edited December 1969

    It's important to realise one thing when working with Luxrender though. Daz materials DO NOT WORK. That isn't to say they can't be translated, but expect to spend a decent amount of time playing with materials prior to rendering, as there are scant few which work out of the box.

    Reality does it's best to translate what it can into a format usable by Luxrender, but this is largely limited to simple things like texture maps. Mirrors, for example, will need to be turned into the 'mirror' material within Reality. Some adjustments might be required for the cornea to avoid black eyes. The majority of props and outfits are automatically turned into a 'glossy' material, and due to the way Reality translates some of those materials, this does mean that many of the environments, especially older Poser compatible ones, come out with an extremely shiny surface. The vast majority of my own props Reality translates as 9900 glossiness or "really very shiny", which requires a real overhaul.

    Fortunately, some models do have ACSEL shaders available for them. ACSEL is basically a preset shader which you can download and Reality will automatically assign those materials to the model whenever it is used. The upside to this is it can save a lot of messing around. The downside to this is that the ACSEL shaders are created by other users, and might not always be suitable for the scene you're creating.

    The last thing to consider is that Lux does have a bit of a learning curve when compared to biased render engines like 3Delight. Unlike 3Delight, you can't use the same tricks to get good lighting effects in Lux. It only understands 'real world' lighting, which means you have to put some effort into setting up the scene so that light reaches the camera correctly. This can mean adding in additional flood lighting and reflecting surfaces so that darker areas don't appear pitch black. Also consider that using skyboxes in Reality is a bad idea because the light has to travel to the far ends of the scene and back again, so larger scenes means longer render times. You can counter this to an extent by encasing the area in a box if working with very large areas.

    I use both Luxrender and 3Delight and have had decent results with both. You have to have a very different mindset when working with Luxrender compared to 3Delight though, so don't get too frustrated if initial results aren't quite what you expect.

  • bicc39bicc39 Posts: 589
    edited December 1969

    As usual,the best people to ask for advice and the best salesman are here.

    Will purchase.

    Thank you all very much for schooling the ignorant.

  • bicc39bicc39 Posts: 589
    edited December 1969

    Once again my thanks, purchased today, first render progressing now.

    Note to DAZ.:

    Thank you for your patience, have purchased a few items from you that will work only
    with Reality (Dimension Theory).

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