Daz Studio Update Causing Problems. Can I Roll Back?

Saw a new update for Daz Studio appear in the Install Manager earlier today. Downloaded and installed the new update (Build 4.9.4.122).

However, since I installed it Daz Studio has become extremely unresponsive. The application freezes up for between 5 to 10 minutes every time I do anything in it. Created a new camera in a scene with just one figure in it and it froze for 5 minutes. Deleted a piece of clothing and it froze for 10 minutes. Other small actions are causing this too and sometimes I have to force close the application.

I've never had this problem before today so I am assuming it is to do with the new update. If I use Install Manager to uninstall this update, will it just uninstall the update and roll  back to previous version or will it totally uninstall Daz Studio?

Any help is welcome because it's frustrating that I can't do anything in Studio at the moment.

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  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,168
    edited August 2017

    Did you by chance also purchase and install LAMH Catalizer recently? I'm not entirely certain it is the Catalizer, but reasonably sure. I had installed it, then applied the DS update and couldn't do a thing in DS. I uninstalled the Catalizer and now it runs fine. Not sure what's going on there, but there will be an update to the Catalizer soon according to AM.

    Oh, and to answer your question, as far as I know you can't roll back :(. If you have the last version of DS' install files you can uninstall the version that's giving you problems and then reinstall the previous version. But I think that's all you can do :(.

    Laurie

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  • IldanachIldanach Posts: 217
    AllenArt said:

    Did you by chance also purchase and install LAMH Catalizer recently? I'm not entirely certain it is the Catalizer, but reasonably sure. I had installed it, then applied the DS update and couldn't do a thing in DS. I uninstalled the Catalizer and now it runs fine. Not sure what's going on there, but there will be an update to the Catalizer soon according to AM.

    Oh, and to answer your question, as far as I know you can't roll back :(. If you have the last version of DS' install files you can uninstall the version that's giving you problems and then reinstall the previous version. But I think that's all you can do :(.

    Laurie

    Thanks Laurie. Strangely enough yes I did purchase and install Catalizer. I'll try uninstalling it and see if it help things improve. I appreciate the tip!!

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,168
    Ildanach said:
    AllenArt said:

    Did you by chance also purchase and install LAMH Catalizer recently? I'm not entirely certain it is the Catalizer, but reasonably sure. I had installed it, then applied the DS update and couldn't do a thing in DS. I uninstalled the Catalizer and now it runs fine. Not sure what's going on there, but there will be an update to the Catalizer soon according to AM.

    Oh, and to answer your question, as far as I know you can't roll back :(. If you have the last version of DS' install files you can uninstall the version that's giving you problems and then reinstall the previous version. But I think that's all you can do :(.

    Laurie

    Thanks Laurie. Strangely enough yes I did purchase and install Catalizer. I'll try uninstalling it and see if it help things improve. I appreciate the tip!!

    Sure. Hope it does the trick :)

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,468
    edited August 2017

    You don't need to uninstall, just uncheck it in Help>About Installed plug-ins and restart DS. Also note that Alessandro has posted a beta of a fix for these issues.

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  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,085

    You don't need to uninstall, just uncheck it in Help>About Installed plug-ins and restart DS. Also note that Alessandro has posted a beta of a fix for these issues.

    Please note a link to the fix?

  • ebergerlyebergerly Posts: 3,255

    I just noticed the same update in DIM. Is this a beta or a real release? I have a rule against betas, so if it's a beta I'll ignore it. 

  • IldanachIldanach Posts: 217
    ebergerly said:

    I just noticed the same update in DIM. Is this a beta or a real release? I have a rule against betas, so if it's a beta I'll ignore it. 

    No mention of it being a beta.

    I wish I hadn't updated though. I uninstalled Catalizer, but still having serious lag issues after nearly every action. Making it nearly impossible to work with.

  • TooncesToonces Posts: 919

    I don't have Catalizer and I've been experiencing similar issues since the update:

    • Much more lag when in iray preview mode. I.e., clicking on menus and objects in scene tab has a couple seconds delay for each click.
    • Deleting figures sometimes causes it to hang.

    Luckily it's still usable for me, so I'm not going to roll back. But I'll definitely take the next update as soon as it's released in hopes that it resolves one or both of these.

  • MendomanMendoman Posts: 404

    I've had the same kind of problems as the OP. DS freezes when I select a figure/prop in scene tab. If I click something after that, it gets gray overlay and not responding in task manager and top of DS window. It stays unresponsive for 30sec to several minutes. After it recovers, I can save the scene and quit DS, load the scene again and continue, but after few minutes it will freeze again. If I don't restart DS, it keeps on freezing every time I change the selection.

     

     I have Catalizer installed, and haven't tried to disable it, but I'll try that too when I have time to play with DS next time. Currently DS is really cumbersome to use, so I hope there's a fix available soon.

  • fastbike1fastbike1 Posts: 4,077

    If you're talking about Studio, any betas will be specifically labeled as such and they won't show up unless you have gone looking for them. 

    ebergerly said:

    I just noticed the same update in DIM. Is this a beta or a real release? I have a rule against betas, so if it's a beta I'll ignore it. 

     

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,023

    ...the only way to roll back is if you saved the installers for previous versions to disk. I have installers for as far back as ver 1.5 archived.  

    Beware though, any scene file you save in a newer version will not be openeable in an older one if you do roll back. When I test beta versions, I create two copies of a scene/scene subset file, one for the previous full release and one for the beta.

  • KomodoVRKomodoVR Posts: 115

    Howdy all - I am experiencing the same issues as described above since installing D|S Build 4.9.4.122. I also have Catalizer installed but have not tried to disable or uninstall it as others seem to be having the same problem regardless. My initial thought is that it could have something to do with "filter by context" and too many packages installed (i.e., the lag somehow occurring as D|S determines what's compatible). Whatever the actual problem I hope there is a fix soon as having to restart D|S every few minutes is becoming somewhat annoying! For what it's worth I currently have 4,980 packages installed taking up ~680GB on an SSD.

  • IldanachIldanach Posts: 217

    Well I'm pretty sure it's the new Studio update that caused the problem.

    Deleted the new package from the DIM download folder, dropped in an older package and had a split second to hit the install button in DIM. Daz has gone back to the previous version now and no issues with lag or response times anymore.

  • I noticed issues after installing the update too. More of a general intermittent unresponsiveness but hey, they fixed my auto fit issues. The longest freeze I noticed was around 1 minute.
  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,634

    Ugh I've experienced issues with the update too. Machine crashes during simple renders and seizes in preview mode. I also seem to lose control of my mouse

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,023

    ...and this is why I am reluctant to jump on the newest version. Still using the 4.3.166 beta along with 4,8

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,938
    edited August 2017

    Haven't noticed any problems at all and I do have the LAMH Catalizer installed. Windows 10.

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  • ebergerlyebergerly Posts: 3,255

    Rule #1 of computer software:

    • Never download beta versions, and never download the latest stable version (because it's not stable). Wait until the other guy identifies all the bugs. 
  • nDelphinDelphi Posts: 1,861

    DAZ Studio 4.9.4.122 is not beta, I would not have installed it. I too have experienced a locked screen for a few seconds and then I can continue to work. I haven't had to exit and rerun DAZ Studio to continue to work or had it crash on me, not yet.

    I do have the latest NVIDIA drivers and I use a GTX 960 for my main vew screen (my GTX 1080 is for rendering only).

  • ebergerlyebergerly Posts: 3,255

    Even the latest public releases I tend to avoid until the community has had a chance to find out the problems. I generally give stuff a few weeks or months before I download. Saves me a lot of grief. Like people are experiencing now with .122....

  • ebergerly said:

    Even the latest public releases I tend to avoid until the community has had a chance to find out the problems. I generally give stuff a few weeks or months before I download. Saves me a lot of grief. Like people are experiencing now with .122....

    Really bad way to do it; testing the beta versions actually helps get the bugs fixed because most software development places don't have the resources to test on every possible hardware combination.

  • ebergerlyebergerly Posts: 3,255
    edited August 2017

    Really bad way to do it; testing the beta versions actually helps get the bugs fixed because most software development places don't have the resources to test on every possible hardware combination.

    True, but if someone else can do it instead of me then it saves me a lot of time and frustration. I think some people enjoy doing beta testing and testing public releases, so I let them do it. I just get frustrated. 

    So be my guest smiley

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  • FletcherFletcher Posts: 63
    I've got a render PC that's only used for Iray rendering and it's running the last stable release. I've got a second PC that's used for scene building and it has the beta or early version release. I think I'll have to wait it out this time hearing some of the problems people are having.
  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,023
    ebergerly said:

    Even the latest public releases I tend to avoid until the community has had a chance to find out the problems. I generally give stuff a few weeks or months before I download. Saves me a lot of grief. Like people are experiencing now with .122....

    Really bad way to do it; testing the beta versions actually helps get the bugs fixed because most software development places don't have the resources to test on every possible hardware combination.

    ...undfortunately my workstation is offline for now so I can no longer download and test beta releases since they only show up in the DIM.  ALso not about to try and download such a huge file as I am currently on wireless which is really really slow and sometimes cuts out momentarily which would kill the download process.

    I have yet to even DL and install the latest full "stable" release of 4.9.3 because of what were then, ongoing bugs.  Curretnly running 4,8 and the 4.9.3.166 beta the latter which has been reasonably stable (better than the first full 4.9 release version was at the time).  Not even going to consider 4.9.4 yet, particularly after reading this thread.

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,938
    Taoz said:

    Haven't noticed any problems at all and I do have the LAMH Catalizer installed. Windows 10.

    Well did run into problems today causing DS to hang when selecting stuff on the scene tab, so I've downgraded to 4.9.4.117 again... 

  • Kev914Kev914 Posts: 1,110

    So is this still an issue or should I wait? I don't think I can return to my current version if I have problems. I'm sure I don't have the installers.

  • IldanachIldanach Posts: 217
    KevinH said:

    So is this still an issue or should I wait? I don't think I can return to my current version if I have problems. I'm sure I don't have the installers.

    I would probably wait for another update. Studio became unusable for me after I updated. Thankfully I had the installer for the previous version.

  • Kev914Kev914 Posts: 1,110

    Thanks, lldanach!

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