Something different conceptually for futuristic renders.

Joe CotterJoe Cotter Posts: 3,259
edited December 1969 in The Commons

We think of animals in the traditional sense, but going forward animals might be as manipulated as food crops are now... Something to think about ;)

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  • Herald of FireHerald of Fire Posts: 3,504
    edited December 1969

    Gedd said:
    We think of animals in the traditional sense, but going forward animals might be as manipulated as food crops are now... Something to think about ;)

    Human beings are also animals.

    It's only a matter of time till we're next :)

    "Human gives birth to neanderthal baby."

    Just wait till that headline :)
    Considering some of the hoodlums in my local area, I think it might have already happened.

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,050
    edited April 2013

    This is all very disturbing... what will we call this creature? A Dicken? A Chuck?
    Actually I'm more disturbed by the side window headline : " GIANT RAT BLAMED FOR FUKUSHIMA POWER OUTAGE".... it didn't actually say giant, but its Japan, so it must have been giant...
    Actually isn't this the way most of the Godzilla type movies start?
    Humans mess up the environment, everyone laments it for a while, then they forget about it and as we follow the main character we notice the TV playing in the background with some report of a fishing trawler gone missing, which nobody seems to notice (or in this case a rat blowing up a nuclear power plant, headlined in some small side article on another character's computer)... Next thing we know a couple of subway cars go missing in Tokyo... then BAM!
    RATZILLA!
    Actually to be honest, I'm far more troubled by the Blackberry ad on the right... who still buys a Blackberry... thats really chilling...
    But since we are on the subject of mutant chickens, did you see this one?
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2079768/Jurassic-Park-scientist-aims-hatch-dinosaur-using-DNA-birds.html
    or
    http://phys.org/news170426405.html
    Just by googling "chicken embryo used to make dinosaurs" you'll get tons of hits... basically, what I read in an article a while ago in Wired magazine is that every so often a chicken embryo has a mutation that causes it to develop a snout with teeth and a vestigial tail... these mutants never survive, but scientists are looking into fixing that by unlocking the dormant dino genes so we can have angry dinosaurs running amok in the streets. This is actually part of one of the many new ideas on how to stimulate the economy by putting the future of mankind in jeopardy, since global warming is taking too long. Its a win-win situation if you think about it... everyone will need a gun, so no more time wasted on that debate, environmentalists who are always complain about us making species extinct will actually get their precious Velociraptors back, so take THAT tree-huggers... the housing market will get a big boost because T-rexs really just run amok anywhere they please and lastly if you have ever seen an even halfway cheesy sci fi movie, the politicians and mad scientists who start the problem usually get eaten about midway through the first half, so no more complaining about congress being useless when they are all just a pile of dino poop at that point... see... win-win!

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  • BWSmanBWSman Posts: 0
    edited March 2013

    Gedd said:
    We think of animals in the traditional sense, but going forward animals might be as manipulated as food crops are now... Something to think about ;)

    Too late. Where do you think all those doge breeds come from. Your Angus beef just didn't grow on a tree. Humans have been manipulating their environment (plants; animals & minerals) for millennia. The only reason we have dogs around is because one of our ancestors managed to domesticate a wolf. The same with beef cattle & milk cattle.

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  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,050
    edited December 1969

    BWSman said:
    Your Angus beef just didn't grow on a tree.

    Are you saying the hamburger tree I just bought is fake?

  • agent unawaresagent unawares Posts: 3,513
    edited December 1969

    BWSman said:
    Your Angus beef just didn't grow on a tree.

    Are you saying the hamburger tree I just bought is fake?
    Are you accusing me of false advertising?

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036
    edited December 1969

    ...but the cheese producing cat I bought has been a very useful addition to the kitchen.

    cheesehead_cat.jpg
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  • robkelkrobkelk Posts: 3,259
    edited March 2013

    Actually to be honest, I'm far more troubled by the Blackberry ad on the right... who still buys a Blackberry... thats really chilling...

    (raises hand)

    They're handy - they can act as both cellphones and IP phones, and they can remind you that you may have booked your aircraft travel but you haven't reserved a hotel room or a car from the airport yet. If you're using a phone for business instead of pleasure, I couldn't imagine using anything else.

    So, anybody know of a BlackBerry prop for Daz Studio?

    Post edited by robkelk on
  • robkelkrobkelk Posts: 3,259
    edited December 1969

    BWSman said:
    Your Angus beef just didn't grow on a tree.

    Are you saying the hamburger tree I just bought is fake?

    Next you'll be telling us the BBC lied about the spaghetti trees...

  • Faeryl WomynFaeryl Womyn Posts: 3,623
    edited December 1969

    You guys are worried about your .. I mean our scientists experimenting on animals? Me thinks you should have a larger concern with them experimenting on cross breeding humans and aliens. Lets not forget Sil from Species as proof of how stupid yo ... I mean our scientists are. Even Ripley joined our ... errr ... um ....join the ranks of hybrid in her fourth film. The hybrids have an annoying habit of developing feelings for human which we .... they will eventually find a cure for. Someday this planet will learn the true meaning of genetic manipulation and the power that can come from it. Right now they are just too stupid to realize the full potential of it and allow governments to restrict them. Of course, by the time they figure it out it will be too late cause we ...um ... the aliens will have already taken over.

  • Norse GraphicsNorse Graphics Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Well soon get ourselves the Smart-Ass phones, with a 'human' component were our phones will be sarcastic...

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,050
    edited December 1969

    CalieVee said:
    The hybrids have an annoying habit of developing feelings for human which we .... they will eventually find a cure for.

    But these humans are so sqwooshy soft and cuddly and many smell like expensive cheese... their antics are both comical and amusing... the whole planet is like one big gladiatorial circ de soleil... just with more clowns. How could you not help but want to eat them... I mean love them... without humans we would not have the cheese-cat or wiener dogs... granted they did not develop the Beer Monkey™ or the Wasabi Onion Varlox... still they are quite amusing.
  • Faeryl WomynFaeryl Womyn Posts: 3,623
    edited December 1969

    Oh I don't want to eat the humans, their diet would make them poor eating and the taste is probably awful. I would make them pets. Just image, a human pet, with collar and leash, on their knee's, catering to your every wish. Those with the most spirit would be the most entertaining.

  • robkelkrobkelk Posts: 3,259
    edited December 1969

    CalieVee said:
    Oh I don't want to eat the humans, their diet would make them poor eating and the taste is probably awful. I would make them pets. Just image, a human pet, with collar and leash, on their knee's, catering to your every wish. Those with the most spirit would be the most entertaining.

    I'm quite sure I could find renders of such scenes... but re-posting them here would violate the forum TOS, even ignoring the copyright issues.

  • SickleYieldSickleYield Posts: 7,634
    edited December 1969

    BWSman said:
    Gedd said:
    We think of animals in the traditional sense, but going forward animals might be as manipulated as food crops are now... Something to think about ;)

    Too late. Where do you think all those doge breeds come from. Your Angus beef just didn't grow on a tree. Humans have been manipulating their environment (plants; animals & minerals) for millennia. The only reason we have dogs around is because one of our ancestors managed to domesticate a wolf. The same with beef cattle & milk cattle.

    I heard that now they're saying it might have been foxes first, since they're much easier to domesticate than wolves. (seems like cladistics could prove that one way or the other.) But I think the overall point is extremely well taken. Why do we think laboratory modification is inherently worse than selective breeding? Laboratory science produces cheap mass quantities of insulin, and selective breeding has created a wide variety of hideous dogs and cats with health issues. Both of them can go wrong. Both of them can be weaponized.

  • BWSmanBWSman Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    BWSman said:
    Gedd said:
    We think of animals in the traditional sense, but going forward animals might be as manipulated as food crops are now... Something to think about ;)

    Too late. Where do you think all those doge breeds come from. Your Angus beef just didn't grow on a tree. Humans have been manipulating their environment (plants; animals & minerals) for millennia. The only reason we have dogs around is because one of our ancestors managed to domesticate a wolf. The same with beef cattle & milk cattle.

    I heard that now they're saying it might have been foxes first, since they're much easier to domesticate than wolves. (seems like cladistics could prove that one way or the other.) But I think the overall point is extremely well taken. Why do we think laboratory modification is inherently worse than selective breeding? Laboratory science produces cheap mass quantities of insulin, and selective breeding has created a wide variety of hideous dogs and cats with health issues. Both of them can go wrong. Both of them can be weaponized.

    The reason it seems new is the term "Genetic Engineering". It sounds modern; but it's been done for thousands of years.

  • Faeryl WomynFaeryl Womyn Posts: 3,623
    edited December 1969

    robkelk....LOL it would not be necessary to show me such images. I have made many of my own and besides, now they have anime. Watching a show is so much more interesting then images...and they come with sound...LOL

    Genetic Engineering may be new, but cross breeding is not and also not necessarily something done by humans. Animals, birds, marine life, insects and plants are perfectly capable of cross breeding without our help. It's only the more extreme cross breeding that is done by humans.

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,505
    edited April 2013

    This is all very disturbing... what will we call this creature? A Dicken? A Chuck? ...

    Well, if you had more than one, would they be collectively called "Charles Dickens"? 8-o

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  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,095
    edited December 1969

    It would be worse if you created a hybrid duck/fish.
    We'd feel stupid calling the result a "dish".
    What? Well what would you call it?

  • daveleitzdaveleitz Posts: 459
    edited December 1969

    The techo-future meme makes fun fiction, but isn't the reality a bit more depressing? The animals currently bred (engineered?) for human use are 'designed' to be profitable in CAFO using industrial scale monocrop based feeds that have no business existing in nature either. They are an historic anomaly dependent on once abundant resources and a global ponzi financial system that will collapse without continuous exponential growth. Personally, I'm of the opinion that what's left of humanity by 2100 will be about a billion farmers and pastoralists (and they won't be buying seeds from Monsanto either). Try putting that in a render! :)

  • Norse GraphicsNorse Graphics Posts: 0
    edited April 2013

    The techo-future meme makes fun fiction, but isn't the reality a bit more depressing? The animals currently bred (engineered?) for human use are 'designed' to be profitable in CAFO using industrial scale monocrop based feeds that have no business existing in nature either. They are an historic anomaly dependent on once abundant resources and a global ponzi financial system that will collapse without continuous exponential growth. Personally, I'm of the opinion that what's left of humanity by 2100 will be about a billion farmers and pastoralists (and they won't be buying seeds from Monsanto either). Try putting that in a render! :)

    I'm of the opinion that DNA can't be copyrighted. Especially DNA that has evolved through millenia, like humans, animals or plants. Engineered bioproducts are a different thing though, but even then it is questionable if the DNA could be copyrighted.

    Post edited by Norse Graphics on
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