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OT-ish - Anyone have a GTX 650 card? (Drivers issue)

macleanmaclean Posts: 2,438
edited December 1969 in The Commons

Hey all,

I bought an Asus GTX 650 2GB card today and I'm puzzled. After installation by my tech guy in the store, we d/ld the latest Nvidia drivers and the install failed. Then we tried older drivers I had on my system and they failed. So we installed the drivers from the Asus disk and they were OK.

When I got back home, I went to the Nvidia site and did an auto-detect and it couldn't find any Nvidia card. so I went to the Asus site and it couldn't find the card either, so I got the drivers manually. Turned out they were the same version as on the disk (306.23), but I installed them anyway. No go. Told me my OS wasn't supported (Win XP 64), despite the drivers being for that OS. So I ended up re-installing from the disk. Same driver version, but they installed ok.

Before I took my pc in, I did 3 renders in DS with my old Nvidia GTS 250, and noted the times. With the new card, the render times are slightly longer!. Just by 1% or so, but still.... WTF?

Another suprise was finding tonight that I had no sound on my pc. I discovered that my sound driver had changed to an Nvidia one. I uninstalled it and got my sound back.

So really what I'm asking is, has anyone else with this card had issues. Did render times shorten? I'm miffed at paying $200 for a card and seeing no improvement at all.

TIA

mac

Comments

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,240
    edited December 1969

    I don't have that card, but it is my understanding from reading these forums, that normal DAZ 3Delight rendering is CPU based, and a faster GPU will not improve render times. If you use one of the GPU based render engines, like Octane, you should see improvement with your new card.

  • macleanmaclean Posts: 2,438
    edited December 1969

    Thank s for replying.

    Yes, I know the card won't improve render times, but I didn't expect them to get longer.

    mac

  • Daz Jack TomalinDaz Jack Tomalin Posts: 13,365
    edited April 2013

    It could be all sorts of things tbh - but the fact that it's started acting 'weird' *and* the render times are longer all sound very suspect to me.

    If possible, I would have them replace the existing card (unless it died, obviously), then see if it goes back to normal, if so - maybe try getting another card. The other option is to try removing the drivers using those special 'deep cleaning' apps in case its just a driver issue.

    Just as an aside.. did you replace the card with the same brand.. ie.. both nvidia, or was your previous card another flavour (AMD etc).

    Post edited by Daz Jack Tomalin on
  • macleanmaclean Posts: 2,438
    edited December 1969

    Hi Jack,

    No, the previous card was an Nvidia too. I've always used them rather than ATIs, and my motherboard is an Asus, so I thought the card would be a good choice.

    I've mailed Asus to see what they say about the drivers. I want to know that I'll be able to upgrade them in future without any hassle. Other than those initial oddities, everything seems fine now, and I have to say, it's the quietest card I've ever had.

    mac

  • SpitSpit Posts: 2,342
    edited December 1969

    It sounds like a branded card/driver. No? It's not an nVidia it's an ASUS branded nVidia. There may be slight differences in the card itself or in the way the card identifies itself to the outside world. I would suspect you won't be able to use normal nVidia drivers with it but only drivers approved by ASUS. I'm sure it's cheaper than a straight nVidia card, but there's a reason for it and not just that it was purchased from nVidia in quantity by ASUS. If ASUS says you have to have this card rather than straight nVidia, you probably don't have much choice.

    With Dell, for example and I don't know if this is still true--possibly not, nVidia made cards for them and drivers for those cards had to be certified before Dell put them in their PC's. You weren't stopped from updating drivers, though, but I'm not sure what would happen to your warranty. Dell would periodically certify a new driver but after a couple years, they'd move on to other cards in their newer machines and you were left on your own. What they told me was sometimes a new driver would work, sometimes not but the guy encouraged me to try.

    In my years and years and years of using mostly Dell and nVidia I've only encountered a situation with a new video driver where I had to rollback to a restore point because things were messed up once. And that was totally my fault I've never seen a driver fail to install or not recognize my card and that makes me suspicious of your situation.

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