using LIE on Daz 4.5 whys this happening?

ToobisToobis Posts: 964
edited December 1969 in The Commons

I am trying to add a scar on the face of genesis but when I load up the scar the face seems to disappear which makes it hard to place the scar on the face (pic1). Then when I do I have a genesis figure with a white face (pic 2) what on earth is this please?? can anyone explain and stop this? thx.

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  • MarieahMarieah Posts: 518
    edited December 1969

    You've run out of memory. Save your scene, close DS, open DS again and load your saved scene and the white face will be gone.

    LIE is a memory hog. It eats memory and doesn't give it back again. You need to save scene and restart regularly when using it. How often will depend on how much RAM you have.

  • Joe CotterJoe Cotter Posts: 3,259
    edited December 1969

    If it has a memory leak it wasn't coded properly. Software is supposed to release resources when it's done with them or that is what happens.

  • Herald of FireHerald of Fire Posts: 3,504
    edited April 2013

    Toobis said:
    I am trying to add a scar on the face of genesis but when I load up the scar the face seems to disappear which makes it hard to place the scar on the face (pic1). Then when I do I have a genesis figure with a white face (pic 2) what on earth is this please?? can anyone explain and stop this? thx.

    Can you post a screenshot of the LIE? I have a feeling what's happening is you're replacing the diffuse texture with the scar instead of adding it as a layer.
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  • MarieahMarieah Posts: 518
    edited December 1969

    I've created six or seven products for the Daz store using the LIE and I can assure you that what I said is correct. I have even covered the issue in the readme's and tutorials of several of these products.

    I've spent hundreds of hours using the LIE to make these products, and this happened to me regularly. Just save and reopen.

  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634
    edited December 1969

    and that told us... :) and what mighty fine products there are too. :)

  • MarieahMarieah Posts: 518
    edited December 1969

    Marieah said:
    I've created six or seven products for the Daz store using the LIE and I can assure you that what I said is correct. I have even covered the issue in the readme's and tutorials of several of these products.

    I've spent hundreds of hours using the LIE to make these products, and this happened to me regularly. Just save and reopen.

    Thanks. I'm really glad you like them.

    I just hate to see people wasting their time when they have the answer already. I probably should have made it clear in the first place that it was more than just a theory.

  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634
    edited December 1969

    I am used to it..not that I am saying I get it right everytime but generally I do and then to get ignored and then I get frustrated that the person asking for help doesn't listen. :)

    Since you and Zev0 got me in to LIE I have never had any issues with it at all.

  • Herald of FireHerald of Fire Posts: 3,504
    edited December 1969

    Marieah said:
    Marieah said:
    I've created six or seven products for the Daz store using the LIE and I can assure you that what I said is correct. I have even covered the issue in the readme's and tutorials of several of these products.

    I've spent hundreds of hours using the LIE to make these products, and this happened to me regularly. Just save and reopen.

    Thanks. I'm really glad you like them.

    I just hate to see people wasting their time when they have the answer already. I probably should have made it clear in the first place that it was more than just a theory.
    It wasn't my intention to step on your toes, merely offer a different potential solution. I've seen similar issues in the past where people have actually replaced the diffuse layer instead of adding one, which gives a very similar, and sometimes identical result. In any case I shall defer to your experience in this matter.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,036
    edited December 1969

    ...wouldn't the Clear Undo Stack script help with this?

  • Joe CotterJoe Cotter Posts: 3,259
    edited December 1969

    That depends if it's a limit issue on the undo stack or an actual memory leak, but it's worth testing.

  • ToobisToobis Posts: 964
    edited April 2013

    Marieah said:
    I've created six or seven products for the Daz store using the LIE and I can assure you that what I said is correct. I have even covered the issue in the readme's and tutorials of several of these products.

    I've spent hundreds of hours using the LIE to make these products, and this happened to me regularly. Just save and reopen.


    K I only have around 15GB free on my system right now I am trying to clear as much as I can. I tried saving and reopening but to no avail. Do you think if I did get more space this problem would eventually go? how much memory you think I need roughly to run LIE? ty.

    Also meant to add this pic before but made a mistake. This is what I get when I try and add something to the body. I can't see it on the screen which means I am positioning it randomly.

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  • agent unawaresagent unawares Posts: 3,513
    edited December 1969

    It's not a memory error, it's because you're only adding the scar layer. If the preset isn't working, you need to load your normal character, then in the Diffuse texture go to the dropdown and pick the LIE option. In there create a new layer and load your scar image.

  • Herald of FireHerald of Fire Posts: 3,504
    edited December 1969

    Toobis said:
    Marieah said:
    I've created six or seven products for the Daz store using the LIE and I can assure you that what I said is correct. I have even covered the issue in the readme's and tutorials of several of these products.

    I've spent hundreds of hours using the LIE to make these products, and this happened to me regularly. Just save and reopen.


    K I only have around 15GB free on my system right now I am trying to clear as much as I can. I tried saving and reopening but to no avail. Do you think if I did get more space this problem would eventually go? how much memory you think I need roughly to run LIE? ty.

    Also meant to add this pic before but made a mistake. This is what I get when I try and add something to the body. I can't see it on the screen which means I am positioning it randomly.
    If you refer to my earlier post, I did suggest this as a possible reason why it would look odd on your screen. If you click the '+' icon on the LIE, it will add an additional layer. It's called the Layered Image Editor because you're layering objects on top of each other. By default, the first layer is the original diffuse colour.

    If you hit the + button, it will create a new layer, allowing you to add things like scars or other overlays on top of the existing texture. If you need additional layers, you can simply hit the + again.

  • Joe CotterJoe Cotter Posts: 3,259
    edited December 1969

    It looks like it could be that, but Toobis is also saying he 'only' has 15gb of memory free. There is something wrong with that statement obviously. If s/he means storage space, that could lead to instability of the system as once the drive gets less then 10% free that becomes an instability point, in Windows at least... not sure about Mac or Linux.

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited December 1969

    It's not a memory error, it's because you're only adding the scar layer. If the preset isn't working, you need to load your normal character, then in the Diffuse texture go to the dropdown and pick the LIE option. In there create a new layer and load your scar image.

    Yep thats the issue right there based on the screenshot:)

  • Herald of FireHerald of Fire Posts: 3,504
    edited December 1969

    Gedd said:
    It looks like it could be that, but Toobis is also saying he 'only' has 15gb of memory free. There is something wrong with that statement obviously. If s/he means storage space, that could lead to instability of the system as once the drive gets less then 10% free that becomes an instability point, in Windows at least... not sure about Mac or Linux.

    Considering PC's can have over 64Gb of RAM nowadays, 15Gb free isn't that much of a stretch.
  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634
    edited April 2013

    shall we gang up on ...na we all make mistakes. :) :P

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  • Herald of FireHerald of Fire Posts: 3,504
    edited December 1969

    An apology wouldn't go amiss, but I think ganging up might be a bit much.

  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634
    edited December 1969

    Don't need an apology HOF, prefering a good old fashioned lynching. :)

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited December 1969

    Wish daz would add more blending options in LIE..It has so much potential...

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