the old April fool's joke that keeps on trolling

WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,202
edited December 2017 in The Commons

I made this video using the old Victoria 5 preview April fools freebie

SKU 12368

of course I cannot redownload it

anyway to cut to the chase, some big corporation is claiming the intellectual rights to my whole video!!

not just the music

I did use a midi file as a starting point even though it is a public domain tune so maybe if they owned that midifile

sadly I cannot find the original only my heavily edited copy

My video has had a lot of views but it is not monetised

but unless they are entitled to it why should they benefit

a few copies are out there and one has more views than mine and was featured on PewdeiPie's Blog, the copy not mine 

so the views and possibly the revenue on that one has gone through the roof

I cannot do anything as I made mine public domain CC as I did many videos but why should someone then turn around and make a quick buck of mine?

Anyway I wanted that damned file so I could show how I made it and tell them to show me how they could claim any intellectual rights if not the music.

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  • PewDiePie's video

  • ArtAngelArtAngel Posts: 1,689

    Unfortunately . . .  probably not.

    1. Never use public domain music because it never really usually is. I always record originals or seek rights.

    2. If it's in the public domain anyone can use it or derivitative works. DRM is the only way to protect your art, licenses and dirivative works. Art is truly only yours if you create everything from scratch.

  • ArtAngel said:

    Unfortunately . . .  probably not.

    1. Never use public domain music because it never really usually is. I always record originals or seek rights.

    2. If it's in the public domain anyone can use it or derivitative works. DRM is the only way to protect your art, licenses and dirivative works. Art is truly only yours if you create everything from scratch.

    it was uploaded in 2011 I now do create my music from scratch or use YouTube's creator studio mp3 files

    if something is copyrighted you can normally silence or audioswap the soundtrack but it is not allowing me to do so

    the song is not named etc which is normally the case which is why I think they are claiming my entire body of work as theirs

     

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  • where it says audiovisual content it normally states the soundtrack specificlly, I have been pinged before so familliar with it

  • I uploaded a response video
  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,120

    There are scripts that crawl web sites and aggragate content like yours repeatedly, also games, and such other media and that is one of the major things that made PewDiePie popular among his following was that he was not paying for those media properties he uses. You are likely only getting haranged because the video is associated with PewDiePie and not because of the total views of it or the money those views have brought PewDiePie. Yes these affiliated pirate organizations stole & distibuted even a game I made and even artificially pumped up the number of downloads of my original game at it's orginal publish location using a botnet, why is beyond me - the game was OK but it made no sense for them to economically or reputation-wise do that as it was nothing more than petty harassment, harassment because I pulled the game after the pumped up the numbers with fake downloads). I guess they figure if they can steal a game and distibute it and it becomes popular they will get the revenue, not I, and face it they do get revenue whether or not from all the advertising dollars they get from people visiting those sites to steal games although that's a pyramid scheme, most involved get next to no money.

    If the midi is from the (Internet) Archive.org or similar place the person after you doesn't have a leg to stand on but if the midi was their interpretation of a song, no matter how old and public domain, like 'Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star' for example, then they do have rights to their interpretation and that others may not use it. Public domain sheet music must be old enough to be public domain - someone listening to an old performance of public domain music and writing the sheet music is making their own interpretation of that pd music and the sheet music that person is creating is not public domain, even though the music is public domain. It is meant to protect performers as well as writers.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,202
    edited December 2017

    the latter would be hard to prove as the CC score is linked on wikipedia and matches my midifile note for note

    I actually could have transcribed it and am wondering if I in fact did since I cannot find the complete original, too long ago to remember

    https://www.loc.gov/item/ihas.100004221/

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,120
    th3Digit said:

    the latter would be hard to prove as the CC score is linked on wikipedia and matches my midifile note for note

    I actually could have transcribed it and am wondering if I in fact did since I cannot find the complete original, too long ago to remember

    https://www.loc.gov/item/ihas.100004221/

    Oh, they are just being silly. They have to find something to lure people to their sites for those ad dollars. Very cool dance you made for you video. I've got to try & learn it it looks too fun.

  • was an old video, a joke in fact just went viral thats all

    anyway I am transcribing my own version of the song to use in future

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,120

    In case you haven't heard of it here is a link to a good & free music scoring program that you can hook up to electronic keyboard & other midi connected instruments:

    https://musescore.org/en

  • yeah have that, Melody assistant runs rings around it and has virtual singer

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,120
    th3Digit said:

    yeah have that, Melody assistant runs rings around it and has virtual singer

    I will try the Melody Assistant then.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,202
    edited December 2017

    good news, they dropped the claim

    I still speculate they were basing it on someone's video copied of mine namely the one with all the views in PewDiePie's blog

     

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  • IvyIvy Posts: 7,165
    th3Digit said:

    good news, they dropped the claim

    I still speculate they were basing it on someone's video copied of mine namely the one with all the views in PewDiePie's blog

     

    Congratulations Wendy.  The truth prevails

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    Cheers on the outcome!   

    Keep on rockin the animations!

  • McGyverMcGyver Posts: 7,050

    Wendy, before this post gets removed too, I'm glad you prevailed and good luck.

     

     

  • McGyver said:

    Wendy, before this post gets removed too, I'm glad you prevailed and good luck.

     

     

    its OK I Googled too and saw what you said

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,168
    th3Digit said:

    good news, they dropped the claim

    I still speculate they were basing it on someone's video copied of mine namely the one with all the views in PewDiePie's blog

     

    This is beyond awesome. This is not just some awe, it is the full helping of awe.  Unfortunately, that tends towards awfull, which this is not.  English is a stupid language sometimes.  But not as stupid as them assaulting your videos.  

     

    Yay, Wendy.  I am so happy for you.  

     

  • Diomede said:
    th3Digit said:

    good news, they dropped the claim

    I still speculate they were basing it on someone's video copied of mine namely the one with all the views in PewDiePie's blog

     

    This is beyond awesome. This is not just some awe, it is the full helping of awe.  Unfortunately, that tends towards awfull, which this is not.  English is a stupid language sometimes.  But not as stupid as them assaulting your videos.  

     

    Yay, Wendy.  I am so happy for you.  

     

    funny thing is they were possibly getting revenue on it, the copy, I am not and now they probably killed their cash cow too.

  • let me correct that, Youtube have now in fact monetised it for me

    I hadn't as I felt the song was not my own work even though public domain, the other handful of videos I did monetise were safely entirely of my own twisted disturbing creation devil

  • ImagoImago Posts: 5,152

    Nice you got listened!


    This whole thing make me wonder again something I longly wondered: How free stuff really works?
    Maybe this thread isn't the right place, but I would like to hear, somewhere, what people thinks about it!

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