Realistic hair textures for Toon Generations 2 hair?

I may have asked this before, but I can't find it using the 'search' feature for the forums.

Does anyone make realistic hair textures for the various hairstyles in the Toon Generations 2 package? There are several unique styles in there, but the textures are mostly cartoony, plasticky, and I'd like to be able to use them on regular, non-toon figures. Just asking beforfe I start spending time trying to concoct them on my own.

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  • dawnbladedawnblade Posts: 1,723

    Will FSL Toon Hair Shaders Iray work for you?

  • PtropePtrope Posts: 682

    Not so sure - they look to be going the exact opposite of what I'm looking for, toon textures for natural hair, rather than natural shaders for toon models. Even though they show them on several toon hair models, they still look artificial.

  • QuixotryQuixotry Posts: 912

    The vendor Outoftouch has a product called OOT IrayPair Hair Shaders for DAZ Studio Iray (on Renderosity) that you can use on any hair. I haven't tried them on the Toon Generations hair, but they look gorgeous and realistic on everything else I've tried them on. Maybe that's similar to what you're looking for. 

  • The thing that gives hair models the natural or realistic look is the transparency/opacity maps. Most toon hair is modelled to be used without opacity maps, to enhance the toon look.  You can use any of the hair shader sets out there, but I think all of them with are meant to be used with the opacity map included with the hair product. The effort will be best spent trying to make opacity maps, but since most toon hair also does not have the millions of polygon strips, but is instead modeled in chunks, the effort may be uphill.

  • PtropePtrope Posts: 682

    Very true, DestinysGarden - not much I can do about that for now, other than extract the UV maps and see what they show. In the meantime, I bought the OOT set Mary Baker recommended, and it appears to be at least a major improvement, if not quite a perfect solution. So, worth the price, esp. since it was on sale today ;).

    Thanks for the suggestions!

  • KinichKinich Posts: 878

    A quick test with the Toon Generations 2 Princess hair (a longer style so possibly more challenging). I tried a few shaders I have in my content and the UHT2: Ultimate Color by DraagonStorm & SloshWerks is probably the most realistic looking one in my opinion, see below for the result with the Pale Strawberry shader applied, the hair is viewed from 45 degrees.

    The shader set is here:- https://www.daz3d.com/uht2-ultimate-color

     

     

    TG2 Hair Test UHT2.jpg
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  • QuixotryQuixotry Posts: 912
    Ptrope said:

    Very true, DestinysGarden - not much I can do about that for now, other than extract the UV maps and see what they show. In the meantime, I bought the OOT set Mary Baker recommended, and it appears to be at least a major improvement, if not quite a perfect solution. So, worth the price, esp. since it was on sale today ;).

    Thanks for the suggestions!

    I'm glad the OOT set helps. Yay for things being on sale at convenient times. ;)

     

    Kinich said:

    A quick test with the Toon Generations 2 Princess hair (a longer style so possibly more challenging). I tried a few shaders I have in my content and the UHT2: Ultimate Color by DraagonStorm & SloshWerks is probably the most realistic looking one in my opinion, see below for the result with the Pale Strawberry shader applied, the hair is viewed from 45 degrees.

    The shader set is here:- https://www.daz3d.com/uht2-ultimate-color

    That looks good, Kinich. It does give the hair a more more varied texture, like inidividual hairs rather than the original heavy, toony-solid strands. 

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