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Here are the results that I get with that scene.
Frame 0 - 0 seconds
Frame 24 - 1 second
Frame 72 - 3 seconds
Frame 96 - 4 seconds
Frame 168 - 7 seconds
I appreciate this, Phil, thanks! :)
I'm running it now without the Diffuse particles and Cell size at 0.4, just to see if it blows apart or not.
Again... much appreciated. Above and beyond!
Bummer. Same thing occurred. It rises instead of falls (Fluid Mass).
At least now I know it isn't just me ;)
Wow, nice! The same scene for me, the fluid begins to blast apart immediately in the first frame past 0. It continues to blast apart as it rises upwards and splatters against the closest (x) vertical boundary and the ceiling. It seems to lose most of it mass by the end with a thin film of splats all over those two planes.
That's a job for Alberto then rather than any help that I can offer I'm afraid.
Agreed. I'll try it on this laptop too... but only as a test. This thing would blow up if I used it for that very often. LOL
Dart, you're doing magic !
Did you try another scene previously, e.g., the example described in the manual?
Are the velocity (x, y and z) of mass fluid set to 0?
Let me think how to explore your problem.
I was going to suggest him the same.
Dart, I think you need to update your GPU drivers.
If you already did this and stili doesn't work, try totally wiping them. There is a tool from guru3d site, but can't remeber its name.... After wiping reinstall all and it should work!
Cool thanks.
In my insomnia over this, I went back and tried it reversing the z force to 32 (instead of -32) - same thing. It seems to do the same thing no matter what. Like I said earlier, I tried it without any solid object, just the fluid mass and domain... same result.
Thanks for the tip towards guru3d! I was hoping to find something like that. The Radeon tool supposed did a fresh install - wiping my old before installing the new.
Check your manual on how to access BIOS and change the graphics setting to "Descrete graphics", that means only the NVIDIA graphics will be used.
If you never accessed the BIOS before, it may look scary, try to find some youtube videos showing the BIOS with your particular model, to build some curage...
If BIOS still is too scary:
I also see is that the Intel graphics driver is one year old and has an old OpenCL driver (although is seems to be working), get the latest Intel graphics driver from the Intel web site.
Since Intel is busy patching security holes everywhere, there automatic driver download utility is offline and you need to find the right driver yourself.
Again a little complicated, you need to know the model name of the GPU and what "CPU generation of the Core platform" it is, to select the right driver on the intel site: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/80939/Graphics-Drivers
The Core platform names: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core
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Maybe something for Alberto, 007 has 2 sets of active OpenCL drivers (Intel and NVIDIA) and it seems that the Intel GPU drivers are listed as the first.
Maybe that is one of the problems.
Remembered its name: Driver Sweeper!
Let us know if it works.
For me, I finally managed to have the right setting for my purpose. Now I just have to wait (and hope it's possible) to have the simulation work with parented stuff!
Argh... Bummer.
I had high hope too :(
In this image (left), the little sphere primitive is the Fluid Mass, the outer bounding box is the Fluid Domain and their respective Effect tray settings to the right of them.
On the right are two screen shots of frames 0 and 14 of the simulated results. I show frame 14 instead of 24 because frame 24 doesn't have much to show. A couple little blobs. The fluid goes up and drips backwards.
Dart, maybe is a big subproduct of bovine digestion... But did your tried to reset Carrara's options?
I once solved doing it and manually setting all again.
Also, try to Rick ( or untick) the multicore option.
Maybe it could start working properly!
LOL!!!
I took some of my third party extensions out (into a temp folder for reinastalling later), I did go through my preferences looking for odd things, but havn't reset. I'll try the multi-core thing. If that doesn't work I'll try reset.
This is the same machine that was having a hard time running Philemo's bridge for VWD. He eventually sent me a version that works on my machine (Win 7 64 bit)
Dartanbeck, I have two laptops, pruchased within the last year, both Dell. The Inspiron 15 7000 series, with Intel graphics will not animiate the Fluidos simluation, same frustrations your're having. I take the same scene and run it on my Dell Inspirion 15 7000 GAMING series with the Nvidia GeForce GTX 1050 4GB, otherwise pretty much idential app setup and it runs great, every time. I think it's the graphics card. In fact I bought the one with Nvidia becuase my new EEG software will not run on the other one. I think Nvidia GTX series with at least 2GB memory may do it.
It probably is my GPU. Changing that out will have to wait. I can just use the tricks I've been planning on using before. No biggie.
Dart... Another bovine stuff... But this time even bigger, since the plugin seems to work only with AMD or NVidia... But a try doesn't hurt!
If you own one of those Intel CPUs that have an integrated GPU (Like the i7 family) you could try disabling temporarily the main GPU and use the GPU inside the processor. Normally isn't nothing special but I guess even those "emergency GPU" could handle a small scene. I used Carrara and DAZ in even less powerful GPU in the past!
If you get an error when starting the simulation, well, nothing to do... But if it starts working you can see if it behave the same way as with the main GPU.
If the fluids starts to flow, the probleme isn't the GPU.
If the fluids behave the right way, just open Amazon and buy a new GPU, opposite of the one you own.
Nah, I built my machine without an integrated gpu on the motherboard.
This laptop has an intgrated Radeon, but I don't want to do sims on this pile o' junk
I'm going to try it on this laptop though... just for kicks.
Ah, you got a laptop...
The one I couldn't get Fluidos working on is a home-built PC: AMD FX-8120 Zambezi 8-core cpu, 16GB RAM
I built it back in 2012. I know it's not a big boy on the block, but I really love how it works Carrara and everything else I run on it - well, shy of some plugins.
When I built it, I wasn't entirely concerned with having snappy game GPU performance, and I'm an nVidia fan, so I got a Fermi GT 520, which had a great price and some cuda cores and good reviews for OpenGL capabilities.
It does some really decent OpenGL for me with Carrara. Usually whenever I bought a new nVidia there was always some sort of Wow factor. I didn't have that with this card except looking at the card itself, with its two 120mm fans and huge copper heat sink tubes nicely crafted around the thing. It's a big, beautiful beast of a card. Works great (except for nVidia-only stuff) but never really had that new, upgraded GPU Wow factor.
I divorced from AMD and ATI long ago... Now I'm happily married with Intel and NVidia. There's is no comparison on how smooth things goes now! And now I'm waitig for the price to drop down (Bitcoin miner keeps making the price high!) for a 1070 Ti Mini. As I can see, it's truly a monster!
And your Craptop can't be more crappy than my old ones, LOL!
Anyway, you did the tests on that bad laptop? It worked?
No man... I'm avoiding that like I'm avoiding pulling my own wisdom teeth.
It'll go like this: Set cell size to 5 ft (not 0.5, mind you) and the FPS to 12 and run for 6 frames. Run it and walk away for a week or two. Junk, I tell you!
I stepped away from AMD cpus to build a Core2Duo machine when they were new. I'm glad to be back with AMD. Nothing against Intel, not in the slightest. I just love my Zambezi for now and will likely love my Ryzen or Epyc when the time comes to build something new.
But I have a feeling that I'll be sticking with nVidia from my next card on. We'll see, I guess.
Then there is only one last hope to discover what could be wrong: Friendship!
Just locate a friend who, promising him a big crate of beers or a double size pizza, will lend you a PC powerful enough to test that stuff.
Carrara will be freshly installed (so no hidden junk), in a totally diferent rig (note all differences and similarities with your own) and probably even in a different OS (if the OS is the same, check what is installed, where is installed and which updates has been done.)
This should give you some hint of what could be wrong in your rig or setup.
With this, I'm out of ideas... Beside the old, classic total format. Brutal but often the only solution.
I already did that. This forum, this thread! I've at least seen how elegant the system is to work with and how powerful it can be. I'll get mine working some day.
So someone is already digesting tha pizza and got drunk with that beer!
Anyway, don't give up, keep trying. By personal experience you can learn more from failures than from successes! And, also in my experience, the bigger problems are caused by the tinyest issue... so just keep trying and the soution will popup by itself!
Back to the main "concept" of the thread, I got a techical question: How can I have more "persistent" particles? When doing my tests I see that the particles tends to become smaller and smaller as soon they hit a surface, scattering around. I would like to have puddles and stains.
Imago :)
the more fluid you have, the more it will collect together,. if you have only a little fluid it will spatter into droplets naturally ,..as fluid does.
more fluid (bigger source size,. or longer simulation time)
You could also use forces (point force) to pool the fluid onto a puddle-ish blob, but that may look unnatural.
a couple more test things
I believe that's where the forces come into play, and it will certainly require some trial and error unless someone already doing that stuff chimes in.
Solid Force (effects tab) checked and the Add Body Force is how we set the solid to either attract or repel the fluid. I was planning on experimenting with that once I got used to running the plugin.
For the fluid mass, itself, perhaps either try running a little more force in the Z axis of the Fluid Domain for more powerful settling effect, or perhaps try adding some Z force to the Fluid Mass - both are other experiments I wanted to play with.
But I think it's the Add Body Force that will get fluid that lands on the object to stick to the subject. I learned that from the (awesome) manual.
To attract the fluid I have to use positive or negative values?