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Need help achieving a special effect in postwork.

Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,195
edited December 1969 in The Commons

See this? http://www.daz3d.com/motion-master-for-daz-studio

Doesn't work in DS 4.6 Pro. Dreamlight refuses to update this very useful plugin.

Then I saw this pic on DA

http://www.deviantart.com/art/Valyn-Star-Commission-378733466

And I'm wondering how do I achieve those same motion/whispy like trails in postwork. I use the GIMP, but I can make due with a Photoshop tutorial. Can anyone help me please? Any "in-depth & step-by-step" tutorials out there?

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  • BurstAngelBurstAngel Posts: 762
    edited December 1969

    I'd love to know too!

  • Melissa ConwayMelissa Conway Posts: 590
    edited December 1969

    I love Ron's brushes. For sure you can find that effect in his store:

    http://www.daz3d.com/deviney

  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,195
    edited June 2013

    Love your Avatar, Burst Angel. :)

    And I couldn't find anything in Rons Brushes that would help. Besides, brushes are limited. Each pose of my figure will be different and I'll need to achieve the same effect in different ways and from different perspectives.

    Post edited by Knight22179 on
  • icprncssicprncss Posts: 3,694
    edited December 1969

    Check the Adobe website. The effect is doable using the motion blur filter.

  • VanguardVanguard Posts: 483
    edited December 1969

    I haven't tried this technique but this might be what you want.

    http://www.photoshopgurus.com/tutorials/t026.html

  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,195
    edited December 1969

    Thanks for the tutorial. I don't have the filter it calls for, but I might be able to bypass it completely. I'll also look on the Adobe website and see if any of their motion blur filters are free. :)

  • icprncssicprncss Posts: 3,694
    edited December 1969

    Photoshop comes with a motion blur filter.

  • ReisormocapReisormocap Posts: 146
    edited December 1969

    Does GIMP have an "inner shadow" layer option? In Photoshop, you can set up a layer so that it drops shadows inside a selection.

    To get an effect similar to that deviantart image, I would do this:

    1. Select an area on an empty layer where you want your motion trail to occur.
    2. Fill the selection with black (for a light shadow)
    3. Choose Layer Style>Inner Shadow. Set the shadow color to white, and the mode to lighten. This way, the layer treats the black as transparent. Adjust the inner shadow size until you're happy with the results.

    You can rasterize the inner shadow and then apply blurs as needed to perfect the look.

    I hope this helps.

  • AdemnusAdemnus Posts: 744
    edited December 1969

    you could also draw the effect in white and then use a heavy gaussian blur to achieve a similar effect

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,040
    edited December 1969

    Knight22179 said:
    See this? http://www.daz3d.com/motion-master-for-daz-studio

    Doesn't work in DS 4.6 Pro. Dreamlight refuses to update this very useful plugin.


    ...I know, I still miss using LDP2 and Azure Skies. UE may be great & all but there is a certain quality I loved about LDP and the skydomes were some of the best.
  • Faeryl WomynFaeryl Womyn Posts: 3,623
    edited December 1969

    That tutorial if not for a plugin or filter, it said you can use a wind filter, then gives instructions on how to create the effect by normal means.

  • DaWaterRatDaWaterRat Posts: 2,885
    edited December 1969

    I haven't tried it, and I don't know if it will produce the effect you want, but I believe Daz Studio 4.6 has a motion blur option using the timeline. As I said, I haven't tried it, though.

  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,195
    edited December 1969

    Posermocap said:
    Does GIMP have an "inner shadow" layer option? In Photoshop, you can set up a layer so that it drops shadows inside a selection.

    To get an effect similar to that deviantart image, I would do this:

    1. Select an area on an empty layer where you want your motion trail to occur.
    2. Fill the selection with black (for a light shadow)
    3. Choose Layer Style>Inner Shadow. Set the shadow color to white, and the mode to lighten. This way, the layer treats the black as transparent. Adjust the inner shadow size until you're happy with the results.

    You can rasterize the inner shadow and then apply blurs as needed to perfect the look.

    I hope this helps.

    I can download a free filter that gives me the ability to create an "inner shadow". Thanks for the tips, I'll give it a whirl. :)

  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,195
    edited December 1969

    sgreco1970 said:
    you could also draw the effect in white and then use a heavy gaussian blur to achieve a similar effect

    I'll try this method first, see if it's good enough for my needs. Thanks for the tip. :)

  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,195
    edited December 1969

    DaWaterRat said:
    I haven't tried it, and I don't know if it will produce the effect you want, but I believe Daz Studio 4.6 has a motion blur option using the timeline. As I said, I haven't tried it, though.

    I've heard about that. I haven't tried it yet either and I can't find any tutorials on how to use it. Tis why I haven't even touched it.

  • KinichKinich Posts: 878
    edited December 1969

    HellboySoto has a quick guide to motion blur in Daz Studio here:- http://hellboysoto.deviantart.com/art/Daz-Studio-4-5-Motion-Blur-330124066

    The principle is quite simple but to get the sort of effect you are after will I would guess mean compositing a couple of renders in GIMP, one blurred & one not. I have tried a couple of times myself but I wasn't overly pleased with my results but I must admit to not putting that much effort in as it was very much a case of seeing how it worked..

  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,195
    edited June 2013

    I'll give that a try too because that's a useful trick I really need to learn. Thanks!

    Post edited by Knight22179 on
  • ISIKOLISIKOL Posts: 386
    edited June 2013

    What Jeff did in his image is quite simply for someone who knows basic photoshop...its a selective motion or radial blur in selected parts...if you are referring to the trail you can achieve such effects by using motion trail from alien skin 7 filters...

    Another work around is to handpaint them with selections and stuff but if you dont have a wacom it could be tricky...

    Im sure Ron would be very interested if you ask him, to create a motion trail brushes set...he is a close friend of mine and i can do it for you if you want! It would be very easy for him! :)

    Post edited by ISIKOL on
  • BurstAngelBurstAngel Posts: 762
    edited December 1969

    Thanks for the compliment Knight! The DAZ SSS Shader is lovely on Surreality's skin textures.

    I'm going to have to check on all these suggestions.

  • Knight22179Knight22179 Posts: 1,195
    edited December 1969

    BurstAngel said:
    Thanks for the compliment Knight! The DAZ SSS Shader is lovely on Surreality's skin textures.

    I'm going to have to check on all these suggestions.

    Your welcome. ;)

    And I will check these suggestions out as well.

    @Isikol, you can if you wish. ;)

  • BurstAngelBurstAngel Posts: 762
    edited December 1969

    Could you also ask him to do speed lines and other manga/comic brushes? His brushes are some of the best in the business. Love to his treatment of cross hatches and speed lines for comics.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,040
    edited December 1969

    ...I still wish effects brushes were set up as .png's instead of .psd's. On my diminished budget (since losing my job), even PS Elements is too much to afford at this time.

    Converting .psd brushes for use with other 2D apps like PSP or Gimp is a pain in the bum and I never could seem to get the process to work quite right.

    Purchasing used software on sites like EBay is a sketchy situation for me, as according to most EULAs, reselling/transfer of software licences is prohibited.

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