hi can someone help me please very upset with putting stitches on my jacket

lasagnaman

ok here it is i want to put my own stitches on this jacket from daz studio with iray leather shaders  but what happens is when i apply the shaders

i have no place to put the stitches cause now you cant see the diagram of the jacket

you only see the texture in the difffuse surface and the bump map is leathure texture. so pleas can please someone help me with this

thanks so much

lasagnaman

i am using sveva iray shiny leather shader

lasagnaman

ok heres the thing i am trying to put stitches on my jacket with iray leather shaders  when i apply the shaders 

i cant see the diagram anymore so idont know where to put them  can someone please help me with this  thanks so much

Richard Haseltine

Moved to Daz Studio Discussion as it is a question, not a Product Suggestion.

How are you placing stitches in the first place?

lasagnaman

i am using photoshop brushes to put the stitches on  but the iray shaders covers them up

so i dont know what to do to avoid that

Richard Haseltine

What are you painting on? if you are painting in an editor just apply the stitches to one layer, with the template visible on a lower layer, and then add a further layer between the two for the leather texture (or, if you want to see the texture too lower its opacity). Texturing really has to be done in an editor that supports layers.

lasagnaman

hi this jacket has no template unfortunately

Richard Haseltine

So what lines were you painting over? What software are you using the brushes in?

lasagnaman

oh photoshop   the brushes are from daz studio  i thinks its called notions

Richard Haseltine

OK, so what are you using to guide the placement of strokes, before adding the leather material? Are you using the 3D tools in Photoshop? If so do they not support layers? If they do support layers then my previous comment - hide the leather, paint on your stitches, then show the elather as a layer underneath the stitching - applies.

lasagnaman

i put the stitches on the texture from the jacket    how do i paint the stitches

Richard Haseltine

I'm sorry but that really isn't at all clear. Do you mean you took the texture file into Photoshop and painted the sttiches on top of it? if so, just paint on a new layer instead of diectly onto the texture and you can then replace the texture image with an alternative. If the issue is that the leather shader needs tot ile you can either tile it in Photoshop or, if you are using Iray, you can edit the tiling on a per-map basis.

lasagnaman

yes thats what i did

lasagnaman

ok so your saying put the stitches on the texture and replace it in photoshop with my iray texture   is that what you mean

Richard Haseltine

Yes, in the Layers pane click the new icon to add a new layer and paint the stitches on that. You can then either add the new leather texture on a layer under that and export it as a new map for the jacket, or you can make a copy of the stitching layer, lock transparency (icon at the top of the layers pane), and fill it with white to make a mask, add a solid black layer below both the stitches layers, and then export two images - one with black layer and stitches visible, one with black layer and white layer visible. That will give you an image and mask which you can use in the Layered Image Editor to add the stitching to any texture on the jacket.

lasagnaman

ok so i open up photoshop with my iray leather texture   make a new layer  paint the stitches on the iray leather texture  is that what you mean

Richard Haseltine

Paint the stitches on the new layer. That keeps them separate from the existing texture, so you can swap the textures around without losing the stitches..

lasagnaman

would you be able to do a tutorial for me  i still cant do i  the stitches dont show up

i dont understand

adacey

I think the problem is that it's still not really very clear what it is that you're trying to do and where you're getting stuck. I'd really suggest starting from the beginning and explaining what you're loading, how you're applying the shader, and then what you're getting stuck on. You've mentioned not being able to see the diagram and I don't think we're clear on what outline you mean. If you can post some screenshots that would also be really helpful.

lasagnaman

i will do that    ty so much

lasagnaman

ok heres the jacket iam using.     so this.i what i want to do, i want to use sveva iray shiny leather shaders on this jacket

and put the stitches on the jacket to make designs on the jacket to make it more realistic looking  but when i do that

the diagram of the jackets gets replaced by the iray shaders. and the stitches wont show up . thats what i am having a problem with

 

Richard Haseltine

What do you mean by the "diagram of the jackets"? Where are you replacing the materials - in DS? Then how do you get them to Photoshop for painting? What tools or modes are you using (in Photoshop) to paint with? I would think there's a good chance that the leather materials are not a ssimple imaeg palced on the jacket, but rather that they are a set of textues and that they tile (that is, a unit square is repeated across the surface) in which case, as I mentined above, you may have trouble adding a non-tiling stitching layer (where you don't want the pattern to repeat in blockes).

 

Chohole

I suggest that you go to the New Users Contest forum and read through some of the Challenges that they have done on materials and shaders.  
This was the latest one    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/208206/november-2017-daz-3d-new-user-challenge-materials/p1

These challenges are designed as a ongoing tutorial to help people get to grips with aspects of the program. If you read through the thread I have linked you may get some hints,  if not then look for the previous years challenge on the same subject and read thropugh that WIP thread.

lasagnaman

Ok this what i do i copy and paste the jacket texture from mjacket and open it into photoshop then i take the stitches brushes with a new layer and then go back into daz studio i apply iray sveva shiny lesther shaders and the sshaders replace my work

Leana

lasagnaman said:

Ok this what i do i copy and paste the jacket texture from mjacket and open it into photoshop then i take the stitches brushes with a new layer and then go back into daz studio i apply iray sveva shiny lesther shaders and the sshaders replace my work

The shader use their own textures to get the leather effect, so when you apply them to the figure it's normal that they replace your texture.