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Koz' LongHairEvo

MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 1,979
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My request is a modern hair for G8f, that looks like good old Koz hair.

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  • frankrblowfrankrblow Posts: 2,052

    +1

    And I still use some of the Kozaburo hairs. (Links to them, and other free hair, here: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/447/free-hair-and-hair-related-items-list/p1 )

  • agent unawaresagent unawares Posts: 3,513

    A few fairly close ones:

    https://www.daz3d.com/faith-hair-for-genesis-3-female-s
    https://www.daz3d.com/jolina-hair
    https://www.daz3d.com/ktarya-hair-for-genesis-3-and-8-female-s
    https://www.daz3d.com/sophia-hair-for-genesis-3-and-8-female-s

  • IsaacNewtonIsaacNewton Posts: 1,300
    edited April 2018
    dragonfly_2004 said:

    +1

    And I still use some of the Kozaburo hairs. (Links to them, and other free hair, here: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/447/free-hair-and-hair-related-items-list/p1 )

    Wow... what an amazing resource. Thanks for the "heads-up". Many thanks to Kerya for compiling and posting this very long list of links. (Some don't work any more but that is not surprising... a great resource, all the same.)

    EDIT: I have just made some quick morphs for Kozaburo's Maya Twintails Hair and posted an image of them on the thread linked above.

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  • Seven193Seven193 Posts: 1,078
    edited April 2018

    https://www.daz3d.com/faith-hair-for-genesis-3-female-s
    too messy.

    https://www.daz3d.com/jolina-hair
    too much volume.

    https://www.daz3d.com/ktarya-hair-for-genesis-3-and-8-female-s
    too messy.

    https://www.daz3d.com/sophia-hair-for-genesis-3-and-8-female-s
    too much volume.

    Why can't someone just create straight hair with no volume and no mess?  Is that so hard?

    Kozaburo has some nice hair styles, but very outdated now and fitting old hair can be a nightmare.  The major problem with OOT hair is that it always has that straight out of the salon look with too much volume.

    LongHairEvo is a perfect example that just needs some modern day update.  Examples of straight, long hair that aren't volume crazy or super messy.

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  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 1,979
    Dave230 said:

    (...)

    Why can't someone just create straight hair with no volume and no mess?  Is that so hard?

    Kozaburo has some nice hair styles, but very outdated now and fitting old hair can be a nightmare.  The major problem with OOT hair is that it always has that straight out of the salon look with too much volume.

    LongHairEvo is a perfect example that just needs some modern day update.  Examples of straight, long hair that aren't volume crazy or super messy.

    Oh WOW, exactley my point. Thank you for understanding

  • IsaacNewtonIsaacNewton Posts: 1,300

    Dave230 wrote: "Why can't someone just create straight hair with no volume and no mess?  Is that so hard?"

    Normal, simple looking hair... oh yes, that would be great but it seems to me that most vendors/PAs like to produce hair that looks like it came from a hairstylists magazine. Try finding a normal everyday hair figure for males... it's even more difficult!

  • Daywalker DesignsDaywalker Designs Posts: 3,586
    IsaacNewton said:

    Dave230 wrote: "Why can't someone just create straight hair with no volume and no mess?  Is that so hard?"

    Normal, simple looking hair... oh yes, that would be great but it seems to me that most vendors/PAs like to produce hair that looks like it came from a hairstylists magazine. Try finding a normal everyday hair figure for males... it's even more difficult!

    Why the assumption that if it looks like it came out of a stylists magazine that it's not what a person actually uses every day?
  • agent unawaresagent unawares Posts: 3,513

    If you want flat hair, I suggest taking one of the hairs I listed and dForcing it. That'll kill your volume but good.

  • Seven193Seven193 Posts: 1,078
    edited April 2018
    agent unawares said:

    If you want flat hair, I suggest taking one of the hairs I listed and dForcing it. That'll kill your volume but good.

    No volume does not necessarily mean flat.  It means the hair closely follows the outline of the head, like natural hair.  The hair itself can have thickness and layers, just lay off the crazy volume.

    So, no volume, as in, no "unnatural" volume.  Dry hair has its own natural lift. Call it natural volume, if you wish.

    See Zbrush thread called Wonderful woman.  It has some nice examples of realistic 3D hair (not flat):
    http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthread.php?187219-Wonderful-woman/page15

     

     

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  • agent unawaresagent unawares Posts: 3,513

    Well, you're certainly welcome to wait for someone to release volumeless hair rather than using existing tools to achieve your goals.

  • Seven193Seven193 Posts: 1,078
    edited April 2018
    agent unawares said:

    Well, you're certainly welcome to wait for someone to release volumeless hair rather than using existing tools to achieve your goals.

    We've been waiting around since V4, so I don't think that's going to help.  The Daz Store has limited choices when it comes to natural hair.  People must go elsewhere to find it, or use old V4 hair.

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  • Daywalker DesignsDaywalker Designs Posts: 3,586
    Dave230 said:
    agent unawares said:

    Well, you're certainly welcome to wait for someone to release volumeless hair rather than using existing tools to achieve your goals.

    We've been waiting around since V4, so I don't think that's going to help.  The Daz Store has limited choices when it comes to natural hair.  People must go elsewhere to find it, or use old V4 hair.

    Maybe that's why they are available elsewhere; DAZ had no interest in them.
  • agent unawaresagent unawares Posts: 3,513
    Dave230 said:
    agent unawares said:

    Well, you're certainly welcome to wait for someone to release volumeless hair rather than using existing tools to achieve your goals.

    We've been waiting around since V4, so I don't think that's going to help.

    Hence the suggestion, that you dismissed because you wanted to wait for a hair model.

  • frankrblowfrankrblow Posts: 2,052

    Fabiana's "Eternal Kyra Hair" for V4 looks good, and can be parented to G8. It is long, straight hair, and comes with optional bangs/fringe. It is now on sale for 50% off at Renderosity. The textures are Poser materials only, so you would need alternative texture shaders such as my favorite: https://www.daz3d.com/uht2-ultimate-color

     

  • Seven193Seven193 Posts: 1,078
    edited April 2019

    These are similar in style, but vendors don't give credits, so I don't know what hair they're using.

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  • Daywalker DesignsDaywalker Designs Posts: 3,586
    Dave230 said:

    These are similar in style, but vendors don't give credits, so I don't know what hair they're using.  It must be V4 hair:
    PD Gloria by P3Design (image 1 of 8)
    Alyce for Dawn by Tempesta3d (image 2 of 8)

    In the first example, since the figure is V4 morph, it's quite likely a V4 hair. In the second case, it's probably a hair for Dawn.
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