Reality 3 for daz4?

DrekkanDrekkan Posts: 459
edited December 1969 in The Commons

When does it come out please? is there a release date? I understand its already out for poser.

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  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,048
    edited December 1969

    The only person who can really answer that is the creator who primarily posts in the Rendo forums.

  • Hiro ProtagonistHiro Protagonist Posts: 699
    edited December 1969

    Frank0314 said:
    The only person who can really answer that is the creator who primarily posts in the Rendo forums.

    Now mostly at RuntimeDNA, where there are special forums for Reality 3 in Poser and DAZ Studio.

    There is no release date yet. I don't think it's imminent—I don't know, a couple of months away perhaps.

  • cwichuracwichura Posts: 1,042
    edited December 1969

    Yeah, the official Reality forum for DAZ Studio is now located at http://forum.runtimedna.com/forumdisplay.php?322-The-Official-Reality-for-Daz-Studio-Forum.

  • MorpheonMorpheon Posts: 738
    edited June 2013

    I think the reason Pret-a-3D stopped creating updates for Reality for DS is that DAZ has put out a lot (and I mean a LOT) of versions of DS4 over the last year-and-a-half or so; and in my experience, each new version of DS seemed to be incapable of running the version of Reality that ran fine on the previous version of DS. Poser updates far less frequently, so it's less of a job to keep Reality up to date for it. I don't see Pret-a-3D making a new version of Reality for DS until DS4 finally goes gold (or -- much more likely -- until DAZ releases DS5).

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  • anikadanikad Posts: 1,919
    edited December 1969

    He's already said he's working on Reality 3 for Daz. I would check the RDNA or Rendo forums or email him directly if you want more information.

  • StratDragonStratDragon Posts: 3,167
    edited December 1969

    Sarsifus said:
    I think the reason Pret-a-3D stopped creating updates for Reality for DS is that DAZ has put out a lot (and I mean a LOT) of versions of DS4 over the last year-and-a-half or so; and in my experience, each new version of DS seemed to be incapable of running the version of Reality that ran fine on the previous version of DS. Poser updates far less frequently, so it's less of a job to keep Reality up to date for it. I don't see Pret-a-3D making a new version of Reality for DS until DS4 finally goes gold (or -- much more likely -- until DAZ releases DS5).

    Reality 2.25 works in the most recent version of Studio which is 4.6 at the time of this writing. Each new version of DS did not break Reality so I'm not sure why you would say that. I can't think of a time where a version of Studio was released and a version of Reality that was compatible was already available.
    Pret-a-3D has been working on porting Reality 3 over from Poser to DS or the past few months and it appears it's on track to be release in the next few months regardless of where Daz3d is at in their development cycle.
    you can look at his development progress over on the runtimedna.com forums and see for yourself.

  • MorpheonMorpheon Posts: 738
    edited June 2013

    Sarsifus said:
    I think the reason Pret-a-3D stopped creating updates for Reality for DS is that DAZ has put out a lot (and I mean a LOT) of versions of DS4 over the last year-and-a-half or so; and in my experience, each new version of DS seemed to be incapable of running the version of Reality that ran fine on the previous version of DS. Poser updates far less frequently, so it's less of a job to keep Reality up to date for it. I don't see Pret-a-3D making a new version of Reality for DS until DS4 finally goes gold (or -- much more likely -- until DAZ releases DS5).

    Reality 2.25 works in the most recent version of Studio which is 4.6 at the time of this writing. Each new version of DS did not break Reality so I'm not sure why you would say that. I can't think of a time where a version of Studio was released and a version of Reality that was compatible was already available.
    Pret-a-3D has been working on porting Reality 3 over from Poser to DS or the past few months and it appears it's on track to be release in the next few months regardless of where Daz3d is at in their development cycle.
    you can look at his development progress over on the runtimedna.com forums and see for yourself.

    Why would I say that? Only because every time I tried to use it for the last several versions of DS, I would an error saying that the plug-in could not be initialized, or something to that effect. If you can use it on your machine, goodie -- but it wouldn't be the first time a piece of software has worked for some folks and not for others running similar systems (Bryce 7 Pro, for example). If I remember correctly, Pret-a-3D released at least two different versions of Reality 2 for DS, one of which was exactly because the latest update to DS stopped working with the plug-in -- which was then rendered useless after yet another update to DS. After that, I stopped keeping track.

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  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,754
    edited December 1969

    Sarsifus said:

    Why would I say that? Only because every time I tried to use it for the last several versions of DS, I would an error saying that the plug-in could not be initialized, or something to that effect. If you can use it on your machine, goodie -- but it wouldn't be the first time a piece of software has worked for some folks and not for others running similar systems (Bryce 7 Pro, for example). If I remember correctly, Pret-a-3D released at least two different versions of Reality 2 for DS, one of which was exactly because the latest update to DS stopped working with the plug-in -- which was then rendered useless after yet another update to DS. After that, I stopped keeping track.

    And that has nothing to do with Pret-a-3D or Reality, so you can't say that it is not updated. I have been using Reality since DS3 and now with Poser and he is great about support and updates.

  • MorpheonMorpheon Posts: 738
    edited June 2013

    Sarsifus said:

    Why would I say that? Only because every time I tried to use it for the last several versions of DS, I would an error saying that the plug-in could not be initialized, or something to that effect. If you can use it on your machine, goodie -- but it wouldn't be the first time a piece of software has worked for some folks and not for others running similar systems (Bryce 7 Pro, for example). If I remember correctly, Pret-a-3D released at least two different versions of Reality 2 for DS, one of which was exactly because the latest update to DS stopped working with the plug-in -- which was then rendered useless after yet another update to DS. After that, I stopped keeping track.

    And that has nothing to do with Pret-a-3D or Reality, so you can't say that it is not updated. I have been using Reality since DS3 and now with Poser and he is great about support and updates.

    Read what I wrote again: I WASN'T blaming Pret-a-3D. The plug-in USED to work with a much earlier release of DS4, and then DAZ released a new version of DS which was incompatible. Pret-a-3D released an updated version of Reality to correct this, and that version of Reality worked for several weeks until DAZ released yet another version of DS that broke compatibility again. The point I was making was that it probably wasn't in Pret-a-3D's interests to keep updating the plug-in until DAZ finalizes the code for DS4, because it seemed that DAZ was releasing new versions that broke compatibility with the plug-in as fast as he could update it.

    The latest version of the plug-in available from DAZ is 2.11.2.122 (which is from around the time Pret-a-3D stopped brokering with them), which hasn't worked for me on any of the last three or four versions of DS. I'd just about given up on Reality for DS, and haven't been to his site in forever. Went there today, and surprise! surprise!: the latest version for DS4 is 2.5.1.122 -- I'll have to see if DAZ has managed to break compatibility with it yet.

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  • MattymanxMattymanx Posts: 6,902
    edited December 1969

    Sarsifus said:
    the latest version for DS4 is 2.5.1.122 -- I'll have to see if DAZ has managed to break compatibility with it yet.


    Its works for me on DS 4.6

  • MorpheonMorpheon Posts: 738
    edited December 1969

    Mattymanx said:
    Sarsifus said:
    the latest version for DS4 is 2.5.1.122 -- I'll have to see if DAZ has managed to break compatibility with it yet.


    Its works for me on DS 4.6

    For me, as well. I probably shouldn't have been so quick to give up on Reality for DS.

  • Ghosty12Ghosty12 Posts: 2,058
    edited December 1969

    If you look here http://forum.runtimedna.com/showthread.php?77925-Reality-3-for-Studio-Development-journal you will see that Reality 3 for DS is about 70% complete..

  • Hiro ProtagonistHiro Protagonist Posts: 699
    edited June 2013

    ghosty12 said:
    If you look here http://forum.runtimedna.com/showthread.php?77925-Reality-3-for-Studio-Development-journal you will see that Reality 3 for DS is about 70% complete..

    That was written in April and what Paolo was saying there is that the UI he created for Poser will also be used for Studio and that accounts for 70 or 80% of Reality 3. Therefore 70-80% of Reality 3 for Studio was done more or less before Paolo even started it.

    However, considering how long that 70-80% took (something around a year, I think) then the 20-30% remaining would still take months. It has taken still longer, however, because Paolo had a break, and the time taken maintaining and supporting R3 for Poser gives him less time to work on the Studio version. We don't know how much time he has to work on the Studio version so we can't predict how long it will be before it's released, even if this 20-30% figure is accurate. As I said before, I would guess a couple more months, but that is a guess only.

    Regarding keeping up with changes in Studio, that doesn't seem to have been a serious impediment at all. I'd go as far as to say that changes in Studio have absolutely nothing to do with delays in bringing out R3 for Studio. The quite comprehensive upgrade to Reality 2 (to work with Studio 4) was done fairly quickly and the subsequent upgrade to 2.5 (for Studio 4.5, which also works in 4.6) was even quicker. Luxrender has also changed over that period and fixes and feature upgrades to keep pace with Luxrender have also been done pretty quickly.

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