Daz Auto-fit Tool
dakkuuan
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I'm a bit confused. Do we still need the auto-fit tool? When I attempt to load something that is designed for V4 and such, the dialog box comes up. Is this only for Poser items and we still need the Auto-fit for Daz stuff? And I find it funny that they said that the Autofit tool would work with later iterations of Genesis, but it doesn't. You need the V4 to Gen 2F for that...
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The Autofit tool is for transferring Generation 4 clothing to Genesis (and Gen3 if you have the Shapes for Genesis), so nothing has changed there. If you want to fit earlier clothing to Genesis, then it is still required.
Genesis 2 is a new figure, and not based on the original Genesis. You can Autofit Genesis clothing to Genesis 2. There may be other clones for the Autofit tool in the future.
Currently, without Auto fit, the auto fit dialog comes up when I load a V4 clothing item on to Genesis. Is this only work with items made for Poser without the auto fit tool?
Oh and if you read Auto fit's description, it say future Genesis iterations will be supported. I wonder when that functionality will be coming for G2F?
I am not sure what you mean here?
All figures prior to Genesis were in Poser format, V4, M4, V3, M3 (and earlier) Genesis is the first DAZ Studio format figure. Autofit is designed to use previous generation clothing on Genesis, and ONLY Genesis. Once the clothing has been Autofitted to genesis, it should work on any morph of Genesis, male, female, Freak etc, within reason.
If you have Genesis selected, the Autofit dialogue should appear when you try to load clothing made for one of the previous generation figures. You select the figure that it was originally made for (V4, M4, A3 etc etc, and then the type of clothing item that you want to convert, Autofit then alters the clothing to fit Genesis.
Is that any clearer?
That is the strange thing.... I've never bought anything from the Daz site and it does this without having to buy the plugin. Does it come with Daz 4.6 now?
Yes, Autofit is part of DAZ Studio 4.6 Pro, and is installed along with the main application installer.
It used to be a separate plugin and was quite expensive.
They still have it listed for 6.95 lol
When I go to the actual product page, it comes up as $0.0
It also says :
It was around $99.00 when it was first released, and then reduced to about $50 a while after that. It is an excellent plugin, and works very well for most things. Hair and shoes can be problematic.
"And I find it funny that they said that the Autofit tool would work with later iterations of Genesis, but it doesn’t." dakkuuan
It does, just not in the way you would expect. Autofit works; to some degree, as I expect. For genesis it supports the previous generation or mil4. For G2F it does the same, it supports genesis. For autofit to support mil3 clothes you had to buy the morphs. Much the same in G2F, if you want to use V4 clothes you will need to buy the V4 morphs.
I didn't say I liked it, I just understand it. If I can ever get all the tumblers to hit at the say time I'll get the V4 morphs for G2F for $10 or less. I just seem to keep having issues when the price is right lol
And you all know I am still waiting on an update to the autofit. Where is the "long dress" and "loose shirt" option? Where's the tweaks to make it function better? Where's the "shoe" option? Yes autofit works nice, or ok most of the time, but I spend too much time working around it's issues.
For Genesis "1" autofit never worked fully as expected (by me at least especially since I paid full price for DS 4 Pro). It is basically useless on long skirts or heeled shoes. I am still waiting to hear how well it works on the V4-for-V6 product.
The Autofit tool is for transferring Generation 4 clothing to Genesis (and Gen3 if you have the Shapes for Genesis), so nothing has changed there. If you want to fit earlier clothing to Genesis, then it is still required.
Also Sadie and Sam if you have their shapes for Genesis.
I'll freely admit I don't have many V4 items. I arrived late in the game in terms of figures and only bought a small handful and downloaded freebies to plug some of the gaps. K4 was really my bread and butter figure for the main. That said, what little I do have works damn near flawlessly on Genesis 2 with the V4 morphs pack.
Seriously, the PA obviously put in a lot of effort to the autofit, making sure that everything worked as intended. Unlike regular Genesis, shoes and even dresses will fit nicely on the figure and so far I've noticed no distortions. The Shadow Dancer holster even fits flawlessly to her without distortions.
Others' mileage may vary since as I pointed out, I don't have much V4 content to test, but so far it's handled everything I could throw at it, with only mesh smoothing needed to fix the few poke-through issues I did have. If you plan to invest in Genesis 2 and have a strong V4 library, I really couldn't recommend getting it strongly enough.
I got here just as the mil3 figures were coming out. I have a nice selection of clothes for mil2 and 3, but I have a huge selection of clothes for mil4. And "flawlessly" is no place in my autofit vocabulary. I have backs out, knees out, elbows out, armpit tuck, breast tuck, warped shoes, stockings and body suits. I have a selection of long medium and short dresses for V4, the short ones are all that work in autofit.
But it is not up to the PAs to work around autofits issues. When autofit was released there was an immediate morph set to fix these issues, it was called poke away, all it did was shrink down body parts so there was no poke though; because it was so common. To me this is like cutting off your fingers so the glove fits. Yet another work around rather then an actual fix to the issue. DAZ is getting quite good at offering up PAs work arounds rather then actually fixing the issue. No profit in fixing it. The profit is made skimming their cut from the PA's item. DAZ makes a profit selling the work around, so why fix it?
Much like there is a cure for acid reflux, but pharmaceutical companies can't make a profit on a cure. Yes, I was cured even though it was a side effect from 2 days of intravenous antibiotics; almost lost my right hand due to a micro bacterial infection. That was years ago and I haven't had acid reflux since. :D
Seriously, the PA obviously put in a lot of effort to the autofit, making sure that everything worked as intended. Unlike regular Genesis, shoes and even dresses will fit nicely on the figure and so far I’ve noticed no distortions. The Shadow Dancer holster even fits flawlessly to her without distortions.
The Genesis 2 promo alludes that this is the very reason that they made the male and female Genesis 2 separate figures....
However, right now, I am not interested in Genesis 2.
Oh, well, there's always the Sy Morphing and Rigging system, once it comes on sale again (or I get impatient and simply purchase it full price, whichever)
DAZ is getting quite good at offering up PAs work arounds rather then actually fixing the issue. No profit in fixing it. The profit is made skimming their cut from the PA’s item. DAZ makes a profit selling the work around, so why fix it?
They barely even make a profit at that! Poke-away is sold at 10% regular price, for a measly buck, and has been since... well, I first came here in December, and I can't remember if it was that price back then, but it sure has been since February or March.
And that's the problem with DAZ's business strategy, here. Rather than update their products with fixes (preferrably for free), they simply expect the PAs and fanbase to do all their dirtywork. Case in point: the basic suit UV. They likely knew from the getgo that the fanbase would simply fix it themselves (or, if they didn't, who cares? Because the basic suit isn't what they're marketing in the Supersuit pack. Supersuit = da bomb, Basic Suit = da bleh in their eyes, I guess.)
I won't be purchasing poke-away, because its function is of no interest to me-- I like Genesis's mix-and-match morphs. I'm not going to sacrifice them simply to make the clothing w. limited morphs fit.
Oh, and mods, this had SOO better not be against the TOS. I mean sheesh, all I'm doing is criticizing some of DAZ's decisions...
I'm trying to get a Michael 5 leather jacket to conform to either Michael 5 or a standard Genesis Male.
Regardless what I am trying, the clothes are very poorly fit to the character. I'm using Studio 4.6 with all plugins activated (hope so as they
are all marked green).
In the tutorials, they just grab some clothes, put them on genesis and taadaaa it fits. If I do the same, a window with progress bar pops up and the clothes are fit with bad poking through. No dialog, no options.
Am I missing something like "Conform to.." or "Drape" or something like that?
Which leather jacket is it -- there are some products which are dynamic clothing, which work differently fromt he usual conforming clothing.
Exactly what jacket product are you using?
If it is this one http://www.daz3d.com/michael-5-the-dynamic-wardrobe-1 it is a dynamic item and you have to drape it with the Dynamic Clothing plug in. Look for tutorials on dynamic clothing. It is a whole different animal.
If it is this one http://www.daz3d.com/leather-jacket-for-genesis you just need to select Michael 5 in the Scene tab and then double click on the Leather Jacket wardrobe item. I don't own the first (dynamic) product, but I do have the second one. It works fine on M5.
edit: nevermind. I didn't see page 2
OK, fixed this issue for me. It is michael 5 the dynamic wardrobe and I did not realize, I had to active the Dynamic clothing panel to customize my panels. In the tutorials, this panel is always visibile and I thought, they should be there by default. Sorry, my fault.
Next thing is: In dynamic clothing tutorials, the garment preferences, the physics and simulation settings can be adjusted in this panel. I'm lacking all of these panels and cannot find the appropriate ones in the "add tabs" drop down. Where are they ?
I believe they are features of the paid-for version of the plug in. The lite version (free) has limitations. You can buy the full plug in in the store.
@barbult
I think you are right. This seems to be one limitation as the dynamic clothing plugin is just basic. I wished, Daz3d wouldn't say:"This is the pro version without limitations..."
I would be okay, if they clearly point out, which plugins have limitations and which are full versions and how I could buy these pro versions of plugins. Searching for features, which are NOT included are just a waste of time.
It is the Pro version, and the DCC was always a paid for plugin, it is made by Optitex, so DAZ 3D cannot just give it away.
http://www.daz3d.com/dynamic-clothing-control
The same applies to Decimator and Animate, neither of which belong to DAZ 3D. There is a Lite version of Animate, but if you want the full version, you have to buy it, that was always the case.