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  • keshkesh Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    To ask 'what is art?" is like asking "what is love (beauty/friendship/intellect...)?" - it's a question without a single possible reply, and every answer is opinable and debatable.

    For me art is an activity and its goal should ideally be to fix emotions or sentiments into a concrete product that may be exposed to others. ;)

  • ben98120000ben98120000 Posts: 469
    edited December 1969

    DAZ_jared said:
    What is art to you?
    Its expression of authors. Transformation ("translation") of "parts" of authors into experienceable (viewable, touchable, etc.) form. Authors in-formation.
    What do you do to make your renders art?

    Nothing special or in addition to making a picture. I can make completely white picture and call it "eternity". Perhaps some people would take some time to think about it, perhaps some people would think nothing more than "hey, I can make that in 2 minutes", perhaps some people would think "bah, thats not art, thats BS". But its OK, I have already said (or shown or expressed) my piece (or piece of me) to me.

    Or in more general, broader terms, in order to experience creative side of me, I create.

  • RarethRareth Posts: 1,462
    edited December 1969

    Art like Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

    you ask a thousand different people "What is Art?" you'll get a thousand different answers.

  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634
    edited December 1969

    arr but it there only one true answer. ;)

  • BTLProdBTLProd Posts: 114
    edited July 2013

    From an old "Family Circus" comic strip. "Our father, who is Art in Heaven, Harold be thy name." So clearly the question isn't what is art, it is who is Art and the answer is Harold.

    :)

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited July 2013

    Rareth said:
    Art like Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

    you ask a thousand different people "What is Art?" you'll get a thousand different answers.


    I so agree with that comment. I look round the room, easy done as we have open plan living so I can see it almost all in one glance, I see all sorts of things that can be considered as art, or products of someone using their art to produce them

    Is the furniture any less art than the Clock on the mantle, the pictures on the wall, the ornaments etc in the display cabinets, the music CDs in the rack, and so forth.

    My eyes settle on one picture. A simple watercolour done by a friend, the main figure inspired by a photograph taken by another friend and then the resulting painting framed by another person we knew.

    In that one picture you have 3 different artistic disciplines. The art of the photographer who took the original photo, the art of the painter who used the photo as the inspiration to produce a painting and the art of the picture framer who made the frame to compliment it.

    Post edited by Chohole on
  • Pascal ComicsPascal Comics Posts: 137
    edited December 1969

    I dunno what art is. Can I still buy stuff here?

  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634
    edited December 1969

    PixelPiper said:
    Can I still buy stuff here?
    only if you can answer the question posed to a high degree of accuracy in 5 words or less.
  • Pascal ComicsPascal Comics Posts: 137
    edited December 1969

    Szark said:
    PixelPiper said:
    Can I still buy stuff here?
    only if you can answer the question posed to a high degree of accuracy in 5 words or less.

    5 words? OK. ... Art happens when you fail your science classes and you get cut from sports teams.

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,040
    edited December 1969

    ...I like that answer.

  • DireBunnyDireBunny Posts: 556
    edited December 1969

    Art? pbbt! I'd settle for just having a picture come out good for a change.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,204
    edited December 1969

    Garfunkle

  • TJohnTJohn Posts: 11,099
    edited December 1969

    PixelPiper said:
    Szark said:
    PixelPiper said:
    Can I still buy stuff here?
    only if you can answer the question posed to a high degree of accuracy in 5 words or less.

    5 words? OK. ... Art happens when you fail your science classes and you get cut from sports teams.


    Sorry, that's more than 5 words. :)

  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634
    edited December 1969

    I just took it as irony

  • 7th Stone Productions7th Stone Productions Posts: 370
    edited December 1969

    Oh, for Pete's sake! Here we go again 8-/ ;-) :) :cheese:...

    It is no wonder there is so much confusion about what is art when we constantly insist on misusing the word. And yes, to respond to an earlier post, Art is a noun and not a verb, which is a word that is the name of something (be it a thing, quality, idea, or action). We don't say "Let's art it", which is one simple frame test for whether or not a word is a verb. However, because we are intelligent and imaginative we can think of the process of art as being kind of verb like in nature even though we still cannot label the word itself as being a verb.

    The meaning of the word ART is very clearly defined. Art is... 1. A skill acquired by experience, study, or observation; 2. a branch of learning; 3. an occupation requiring knowledge or skill; and most relevant to this forum and discussion... 4. the conscious use of skill and creative imagination, especially in the production of aesthetic objects, and also the works so produced.

    Please note, and this is important, that the definition of Art does not require the production of an aesthetic object. Rather, aesthetic objects are the natural result of Art. And Yes, in response to another post above, Art refers to "both" the creative process and the resulting work. The resulting drawing, painting, sculpture, render, etc. can be called art and so can the process that yielded the work.

    Art is the faculty of executing well what one has devised and implies a personal, unanalyzable creative power. It involves Skill, Cunning, Artifice, and Craft. Skill stresses technical knowledge and proficiency. Cunning suggests ingenuity and subtlety in devising, inventing, or executing. Artifice suggests mechanical skill, especially in imitating things in nature. And Craft implies expertness in workmanship.

    But what do we mean by "aesthetic objects", as referred to in the 4th definition given above? Aesthetics is the appreciation of a pleasing appearance or effect. It is a branch of philosophy dealing with the nature of beauty, art, and taste, and the creation and appreciation of beauty. Aesthetics can also be a particular theory or conception of beauty or art, for example: modernist aesthetics.

    So, in my opinion, the real question being asked herein isn't "What is Art?" but seems to be "what qualities makes art aesthetic and therefore valuable to us?"

    Aesthetics is where things unfortunately or fortunately get muddy because people differ culturally and individually through their experiences and biases as to what is beautiful or valuable. This is also where we start talking about how Art might be used as a form of communication and way of expressing emotions and ideas. Several brief but good answers have already been given to this question. Now that we hopefully have a reasonable firm foundation and understanding of what Art basically is I will let you decide for yourself what constitutes good art, fine art, valuable art, Aesthetic Art. I'd share my own ideas on this but I'm out of time. Perhaps later...

    Note: Some of the language used above was indirectly borrowed from various authoritative sources written by other individuals.

  • Axe SwipeAxe Swipe Posts: 23
    edited December 1969

    Sockratease said:
    Art is a Verb, not a noun!

    Then why don't we have a freaking "Make Art" button yet!

    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

  • LeatherGryphonLeatherGryphon Posts: 11,505
    edited December 1969

    7thStone said:
    Oh, for Pete's sake! Here we go again 8-/ ;-) :) :cheese:...

    It is no wonder there is so much confusion about what is art when we constantly insist on misusing the word. And yes, to respond to an earlier post, Art is a noun and not a verb, which is a word that is the name of something (be it a thing, quality, idea, or action). We don't say "Let's art it", which is one simple frame test for whether or not a word is a verb. However, because we are intelligent and imaginative we can think of the process of art as being kind of verb like in nature even though we still cannot label the word itself as being a verb.

    The meaning of the word ART is very clearly defined. Art is... 1. A skill acquired by experience, study, or observation; 2. a branch of learning; 3. an occupation requiring knowledge or skill; and most relevant to this forum and discussion... 4. the conscious use of skill and creative imagination, especially in the production of aesthetic objects, and also the works so produced.

    Please note, and this is important, that the definition of Art does not require the production of an aesthetic object. Rather, aesthetic objects are the natural result of Art. And Yes, in response to another post above, Art refers to "both" the creative process and the resulting work. The resulting drawing, painting, sculpture, render, etc. can be called art and so can the process that yielded the work.

    Art is the faculty of executing well what one has devised and implies a personal, unanalyzable creative power. It involves Skill, Cunning, Artifice, and Craft. Skill stresses technical knowledge and proficiency. Cunning suggests ingenuity and subtlety in devising, inventing, or executing. Artifice suggests mechanical skill, especially in imitating things in nature. And Craft implies expertness in workmanship.

    But what do we mean by "aesthetic objects", as referred to in the 4th definition given above? Aesthetics is the appreciation of a pleasing appearance or effect. It is a branch of philosophy dealing with the nature of beauty, art, and taste, and the creation and appreciation of beauty. Aesthetics can also be a particular theory or conception of beauty or art, for example: modernist aesthetics.

    So, in my opinion, the real question being asked herein isn't "What is Art?" but seems to be "what qualities makes art aesthetic and therefore valuable to us?"

    Aesthetics is where things unfortunately or fortunately get muddy because people differ culturally and individually through their experiences and biases as to what is beautiful or valuable. This is also where we start talking about how Art might be used as a form of communication and way of expressing emotions and ideas. Several brief but good answers have already been given to this question. Now that we hopefully have a reasonable firm foundation and understanding of what Art basically is I will let you decide for yourself what constitutes good art, fine art, valuable art, Aesthetic Art. I'd share my own ideas on this but I'm out of time. Perhaps later...

    Note: Some of the language used above was indirectly borrowed from various authoritative sources written by other individuals.

    The longer the reply, the more opportunity for dissension on each of the concepts. There's an art to defining the indefinable.

    As I said earlier: Art is "an incessant source of unresolvable discussion".

  • 7th Stone Productions7th Stone Productions Posts: 370
    edited July 2013

    LeatherGryphon said:
    The longer the reply, the more opportunity for dissension on each of the concepts. There's an art to defining the indefinable.

    As I said earlier: Art is "an incessant source of unresolvable discussion".

    If we are talking about what ART is then I disagree!

    If we are talking about AESTHETICS I totally agree.

    What bothers me is that when people ask "What is Art?" they are really asking what qualities make art aesthetic and completely lose sight of what art is at a basic level.

    Edit: I have to wonder if you even read what I wrote or understood it. Hey, I never claimed to be a great writer. ;-)

    Post edited by 7th Stone Productions on
  • CypherFOXCypherFOX Posts: 3,401
    edited December 1969

    Greetings,
    Disregarding what I said earlier about being an illustrator, not an artist, my current render is hitting 112 hours on an 8-core box, and is only 76% done. That #$%! better be MAGIC ART when it's done, or I'm going to be VERY upset. ;) Mostly with myself...

    -- Morgan

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