Problem with clothing automatically conforming in DAZ 4.6
Mercblue22
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Hello all,
I have been having trouble with clothes (GEN and V4) automatically conforming to Genesis or V4 figures. I select the figure in the Scene tab and when I install clothes, none of the clothes seem to conform to the figs in DAZ 4.6. I dont mind having to right click the clothes in the scene and clicking 'fit to...' but I remember back in 4.5, the clothes applied themselves to the figure automatically.
Was this taken out or do I need to manually tweek 4.6?
Thanks,
Merc
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I'm not seeing this could you maybe post some screenshots of what exactly you're seeing?
If I select the figure then double click from either Content Library or Smart Content the clothing automatically conforms to the figure for me. If it's V4 clothing and I'm trying to apply it to a Genesis figure then the Autofit dialog comes up and I have to go through that step. I've not tried fitting any Genesis clothing to V4 so I'm not sure how that would work.
I can't think of any setting you could turn off that would prevent this from working but I don't know for sure.
Greetings,
I have this problem also, only it's about 50/50. Some items won't auto-select the selected character to fit to, others will, and there seems no obvious rhyme or reason to it.
Especially when I'm going through trying to create a library of wearable presets for Genesis from V4 outfits, this becomes a pain.
-- Morgan
I believe that the auto-conforming step relies on the CMS (Content Management Service) to be running to work correctly.
Is your CMS running?
Much of the Tri-Ax content (Genesis etc) hasn't been saved correctly, and yes even the stuff DAZ makes, it's missing the conforming code from the DUF files, as a result it has to rely on the CMS to auto conform it to the selected figure.
Poser content depends on the the person that made it, half the time the "conforming" line in the CR2 is set 0 instead of 1, so it wont auto conform to the selected figure.
Hey guys,
Thanks for the reply, appreciate it. Yea, it seems to happen when I apply any clothes to Genesis or V4. (Genesis to Genesis, V4 to V4 or V4 to Genesis) when I apply V4 clothes to Genesis, I do get the box asking me which item of clothing does it belong to. I guess for me, getting used to how DAZ 4.5 automatically conformed all clothing to the fig, threw me off that only 20% of the clothes are conforming for me. (Cypher has a great point as some things automatically conform and some do not) I always have to manually right click the clothes and click 'fit to.'
Here is two pics I took of my DAZ 4.6 using Genesis. The first shows her standing alone and the 2nd, me clicking the item of clothing. As you can see, when the shirt comes into the scene, its hanging over Genesis, not confirming to it. (I have Genesis selected in scene tab as well)
http://i41.tinypic.com/33mwoyx.jpg
http://i41.tinypic.com/21kkobp.jpg
And this happens when I take an item out of the content library tab and apply it to the figure and scene. (sadly, my search option and smart content tabs are broken and not working) And also, my CMS keeps messing up too so that could be another reason I'm having this problem. (this never happened with 4.5 for me)
Thanks,
Merc
...experienced the same here.
@mercblue22
If you had DS4.5 installed, and then installed DS4.6, the new version will uninstall the older version for you, before installing 4.6. BUT, it does not reinstall the CMS to the best of my knowledge. If you go to Start > All Programs > DAZ 3D, you will find an option for uninstalling CMS. After you have done that, reinstall DS4.6, and the latest version of the CMS will be installed along with the new version of DS4.6, and hopefully that will correct it.
Try that, and then see if your CMS is running correctly in the Task Manager.
Hello JummyC,
Wow, thanks for those suggestions to try. I think I am having problems with my 4.6 working right because all I did was override the previous 4.5. Now, let me ask you. I have 4.6 currently installed on a external HD (G:) and CMS installed on C: (HD) Is it possible that this is why my CMS/DAZ Content library search engine keeps malfunctioning? Am I installing both in the correct areas?
Thanks,
Merc
hi jimmy im having same problems with cms and crashing wen going to save clothes also the model name doest show in compatibitliy tab wat i want to ask is if i installed 4.6 as had 4.5 and i uninstall cms wen reinstall 4.6will the new upgrade cms will any of the content tht was recorded on it be lost are will it be the same a s 4.5 and i reall y dont want to reinstall all my content its been a nightmare ive not been able to save clothing on a certain model i have and felt like banging head againt wall
@mercblue22
I really don't know enough about the way the CMS works to answer your question. If I was running out of space on my C drive, I would install my content folders to an external HDD, but not the main application itself. If the external HDD is not always available (plugged in), then that may cause a problem with CMS trying to find it.
If you re-install DS4.6 yourself (not using DIM), then you get a choice with the installer of where to install the CMS, and it would probably be best to install it into the same HDD as the application. The application takes up about 350 MB, but the content can be many times more, in my case, well over 40 GB, so given a lack of space on my C drive, I would choose to move the content, and not the application.
@fairyfantastic
Reinstalling DS4.6 will not alter or delete any content that you have previously installed, the new version should pick up where your content folders are from the previous install. If you mean Smart Content, or Categories that you have saved yourself, then you can always use the Content DB Maintenance option in the Content Library drop-down menu to reinstate these.
The Metadata will not be lost anyway, but if you have your own Categories saved (I do), then you should go to the Content Library pane, click on the context menu (looks like 4 little lines with a triangle), and select Content DB Maintenance which contains a lot of options. To save any Categories that you have created yourself, check 'Export User Data', and your categories will be saved.
You can use the Re-import Metadata option to load these again if they are lost when reinstalling (unlikely).
thks hun ive done all tht reinstalled everything properly and still the same so im baffles and angry really as i cant continue in making clthes
Hello Jimmy,
Thanks for the reply and suggestion to just install DAZ 4.6 and CMS to my C: drive. I removed all traces of 4.5, installed 4.6 and then the CMS, (along with the Genesis 1 nd 2 essentials), and sadly, my CMS, Smart Content tabs and content search engines inside DAZ, still dont work. (or show contents inside them) It has to be something wrong with 4.6 that is allow this to happen, as I have installed everything correctly. If anything good came out of doing this, I think the clothes now conform to Genesis/V4 correctly now. :)
Thanks again for all the help guys!
Merc
Check your fire wall. Your firewall can stop CMS from actually linking to studio.
how do we solve this man stan as ive turned mine of to see if it would help with the cms and nothing
@fairyfantastic
Are you using Windows, if so, what version?
Does CMS run at all, can you see it in Task Manager as a Process or in Services in Task manager? Can you start it at all from Start > All Programs > DAZ 3D? Does it start and then stop?
Do you have anything at all displayed in Products and Categories?
If CMS starts, and then stops again when you run DS4.6, then your database files my have become corrupted. If you don't have any Categories that you created yourself, then you could move these files to another location, or delete them if you are sure you will never need them again, and when you restart DS4.6, they will be recreated. It is then a matter of loading in the Metadata files again to restore Smart Content.
I can tell you how to do that if needs be, but can you answer my questions first please?
hi hun ive pmd u
Yes, your CMS is running, there just isn't any content to display by the look of things. I don't know if you have tried reimporting the Metadata, but it is worth a try. Go to the Content Library pane (as shown), then click on the little icon (marked) at the top right to get a drop-down menu, select Content DB Maintenance, and you will get the screen as shown below.
Select 'Re-import Metadata' as shown, and click on Accept, that should reinstall the Metadata files, and it will give you icons in the Smart Content and Categories menus. Try that first please, and tell me what happens.
right ive dont tht and checked on the task manager and cms has stopped but wos working just b4 i did meta data but i did fid wen daz crashes wen i ter to save clothes all the smart content andcatagories are not there wen i reload daz strange
I never have or had CMS running, I didn't even install it (and I don't want to install it either) and I have the same with DS4.6. Until 4.5 it auto conformed and now with the latest version, it doesn't. So I have to right click and fit to in this version. It was easier in the older versions but this just means DS moved a point down for me. I still like some things in it just as I like some things in Poser :P
Love, Jeanne
Did the Smart Content and Categories work after you reloaded the Metadata?
If so, it sounds as if what you are saving is causing the problem. Can you please go through a step by step of what you are trying to save, and where you are saving it to. If reloading the Metadata worked, then everything is OK, it is saving the clothing items that is causing the problem I think, so you would need to explain EXACTLY what you are doing when DAZ studio crashes.
I made my model in hex exported with daz export setting
Then import to daz the right setting
Use the transfer utility to the Model I made for
Thn I goe to file save as to figure prop tab
Thn this is wen things go wron
I put product name in thn as I click the tab to put wat outfit it is nothing appears
Thn I try click compatibility base and there's noting in there I
Was advices to try make a new root I did Tht and daz crashes
I save the out fit in figures in its own folder
When I select Compatibility Base, I get a list of all my Metadata items.
In my last post, I asked this question
Did it all work before you tired to save the clothing item? If it still didn't work, then we may need to get rid of your database files so that DS can create a new one.
no i did not work after meta data was reimported
no it didnt work before thts why i couldnt choose models name
OK, one more thing to try. If you use your own Categories that you have created, you will need to back them up first, but I don't think you do?
Go to C:\Program Files\DAZ 3D\Content Management Service\databases, and you should find five files inside there. Move them to another location (Desktop?), and that will force DAZ Studio to create a new set of database files. When you then reimport the Metadata files, this time it should work.
Once this has worked, you can delete the old files that you moved, they will no longer be needed
Actually the database for the CMS (Studio 4.5/4.6) isn't found at C:\Program Files\DAZ 3D\Content Management Service\databases but instead at C:\ProgramData\DAZ 3D\Content Management Service\databases. And you will most likely need to unhide the files before being able to see them as they are hidden by default in Windows.
Once you get the CMS working again and have it the way you want it you should export the User Data via the Content Database Maintenance and then just make a copy of the files to have in case this happens again. It has happened to me numerous times and all I have done is stop the CMS and deleted the database files and after restarting both the CMS and DAZ a new database is created. I then just replace that with the saved one that wasn't corrupted and it works fine again.
Program Data is a hidden folder, so, if your files are there, you would need to unhide it first.
My database files are not there, but in the path that I posted. Why mine would be in a different place I don't know, but maybe I asked for them to be put there and just don't remember doing so.
omg omg omg its worked jimmie and kimmie i cnt thnk u enough if i new were u were id come there personally and give u big huge hugs im so pleased thnk u thnk u so much for yr help im a happy bunny i will keep this in mind for wen it happens again
Hooray!
Sorted at last, I am very glad for you.
cnt thnk u enough now i know if it happens again which i hope it doesnt if u had seen me wen it worked u would have howeled in laughter