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Haven't seen you around lately... good seein' ya!
Thats what I mean I havn't see how it looks except for on here. been Staying quiet messing around with Genesis in Poser and Genesis in Daz Studio for a while (Poser not having Triax is Something I was trying to work around but I grow tired of trying to make square pegs into circular holes). Look forward to purchasing Carrara on Monday to see how that work with it.
Cool. Me too. Except that I'm already happy with how it works in beta - but this latest build was put up a while ago. The new official release is gonna R O C K ! Wait 'till ya see it... new lights icons shapes are a small, but welcome change. You can now right-click > Paste text, like in the S/N box and such, and many behind the scenes improvements that takes a little while before you realize them - much better Carrara!
Cheers, Man!
will the loveable llama with all it's hair load in 8.5 in a reasonable time frame like it does in DS?
3 sleeps to go for us Aussies until the 26th
(don't tell anyone, but we get the update a day earlier than the rest of you,
after all we deserve it, being in the correct side of the world :) )
it takes that extra day to presently load up my llama :coolhmm:
ha ha :) we have hairless llama's here in newie, it's because of the new law banning old buildings and llama's with hair - both equally reediculouse
oddly I can get the fully haired llama FBX from iClone into carrara easily.
Hunter Street will never be the same .. :-)
Ha heh, yes, we have a property developer as Lord Mayor.
He's not in it for the money luckily ..... ..................... ......................... ................
I've heard that even he is excited about the coming release of Car 8.5. and that one of his chins has been quivering with excitement.
Perhaps the genesis of his excitement is the new light shapes?
;)
Ah no more looking at the instances tab to see what light I have selected. What relief.....
But seriously, that will come in handy, I'm forever changing a bulb to a spot and a distance light to a spot and still have the wrong description in the instances tab, what a PITa .
Good luck with the Hairy Llama,
great name for a night spot.
Does anyone know if the M5 skin shaders will load properly in 8.5 on both M5 and his Genitalia. Spent lots of money getting a figure that goes black when I try most of his skin shader options, and it's like they don't even want to acknowledge the other parts that won't take any shaders at all. Reporting the bug seems to have been widely disregarded. I prefer working with the reliable M4 who never let me down but then it bothers me to have a M5 laying around doing nothing.
While I am not on that side of things, we might have you covered though. ;)
Be nice for "ME" if there was a Carrara category/PA products weekend sale, to stock up for the new pending release! :)
Not until I know how much the Carrara upgrade is.
Not until I know how much the Carrara upgrade is.
Sorry, I updated my post to be more clear
Thank fook for that guess i will hold off re-installing DIM to get Girl 6 - annoying to have to have 2 lots of folders for content because of the "There was an error loading some.cr2" when trying to use genesis from the sorted folders
Sorry, I updated my post to be more clear
I'd rather stock up after I have the release. So that I could be sure I can afford doctors, rent and food in September. But that's just me. What we want doesn't affect DAZ's schedule much, I don't think.
It would be nice if they would let us know the price at least by Sunday, the 25th, since they sent out a $6 off coupon if you buy $30 or more which expires on the 25th.
It is for me not going to get used as I have no idea if I'd be able to buy anything because of not knowing the upgrade price and budget limits. on how much I can spend on 3D stuff.
Welcome with CARRARA 8.5 but I believe that the principal evolutions are based on the use of STUDIO/GENESIS, the former users should not find there until they wait for a long time:
- Real improvement of the physical effects
- Dynamic Clothing as in Poser
- Smooth selection for the deformations…
- More stability at the time of elaborate scenes
- Autosavings ...
We have perhaps finally more short cuts keyboard, but that remains to be seen.
I wait a next real version!
So... did we figure about how many cases of beer we would need need to put down this weekend to \have enough returnable cans to buy the Carrara upgrade?
Backward compatibility how? Opening old scene files with legacy figures? No. Loading legacy figures? No. Pre-Genesis figures will function the same as they did before. Generation 4 figures will work the best. Generation 3 figures will be ok. Last I checked there are sitll issues with Gen2 and earlier in Carrara. I think the idea was that most people use the current figures so that is where the focus should be.
I hope this answers your question, if not PM me, or respond in the thread.
So, let me see if I understand properly.
Carrara 8.5 will NOT open scenes from C8Pro and earlier?
It won't load legacy figures (Gen3, Gen2)?
I have used Daz and Carrara for animation.
I started my animations in Daz (2.Something). I LOVED it. Especially once animate came along.
Then I started working in Carrara. WOW!
The aniBlock importer makes animation much easier, plus the way Carrara allows you to manipulate things in the timeline gives me some really good end results.
Tried both. For me, Carrara wins.
I'm running Carrara 7Pro
So, let me see if I understand properly.
Carrara 8.5 will NOT open scenes from C8Pro and earlier?
It won't load legacy figures (Gen3, Gen2)?
No, he means "no, there are no problems with using old content".
I cannot wait for 8.5 to get out the door --so maybe we can see some real needed improvements/enhancements that we might have normally seen within the last year and half - two years in a version 9 if DAZ wasn't so content centric with 8.5.
I mean if you like content use then 8.5 seems like a good upgrade ....less so if you are the ones who use more of their own work but in everyones case Carrara could use some boost in a number of areas ---and of course development time is scarce so picking what to work on seems pretty important. And maybe just maybe this genesis thing will settle down and Daz will feel satisfied that Carrara is another good content delivery tool for them and focus more on the stuff it needs to keep folks using it.
One thing people seem to forget, is the economy crashed (yes, crashed) and it hurt everybody unless you were a big bank or worked for one of the big Wall Street investment firms. That means smaller companies like DAZ had to be extremely careful where they put their limited R&D funds. I would have liked to see some more improvements to certain non-content centric areas of Carrara for this release, but I can understand why DAZ did what they did.
For everybody that's going to bitch about the content centric nature of this update, take a deep breath, step back, look at the big picture over the last few years and calm down. Hopefully C9 will provide some of the updates to core Carrara features that we want.
True. The main goal, from the very start of 8.5 development, was to implement compatibility with Genesis. An endeavor that was neither easy, nor came as a singular adoption of feature. Along their path to victory, the dev team has truly created a better Carrara, whether you decide to use Genesis or not. Trying the latest beta would have been a great way to help determine if the benefits would be worth the upgrade to the individual, or not.
Personally, I do plan to use Genesis and the new functionality to draft DUF scenes into Carrara. But much more so, I like the latest beta (and the one or two builds before it) much better that 8.1 Pro. I'm fairly certain that many things can not be listed as being changed or fixed, simply because they just came as some indirect cause of implementation, but my experience in 8.5 beta is just a lot more comfortable.
The added 'Parameters' tab is evident for non-Genesis figures as well, that I find very useful and have grown to love, and truly find missing when I go back to 8.1. Another biggy for me is the new implementation of 'memorize' and 'zero' features in the Animation menu. Many users have complained that "Zero Figure" was missing from the General tab. Well that has been replaced by a very wide variety of options toward whatever you have currently selected. Then go to Animation menu and pick and choose from Memorize, Recall, Zero selection, Zero Pose, etc., etc., is a very welcome addition the more you end up needing it. I have to admit that, at first, although I thought it was cool right from the start, I didn't think that it would be as useful as it really is. Now I am very grateful as I find myself using it for a hand and its children, or the entire arm - sometimes the whole figure. It's very flexible in what you can use it for.
While I can also agree that changing the visible shapes of lights in the work flow can be considered incredibly minor, it is an improvement that should have been done before DAZ ever even got the software - but it was DAZ whom finally changed it. Shape light gives you a shape to manipulate, sun light looks like a sun with a directional arrow, spot lights look light spot lights and distant lights are a nice arrow. Minor as it may seem, it's another thing that really annoys me when I go to work again in 8.1.
There are other 'fixes' that have simply made Carrara a better machine entirely as development progressed toward the difficult task of getting the new DAZ Triax system native to Carrara. So I believe Carrara 8.5 beta, build 204 to be the best Carrara I've ever used - whether I'm working with Triax or not.
Working with Triax brings up another point entirely. Although it's very easy (and fun!!!) to create your own things using Carrara's modelers, and then attaching them to your own figures' skeletons for making clothing or hair or whatever, Daz Studio Pro now has some great tools that used to be sold separately for quite a price, built right in. CCT - Content Creation Tools are designed to help artists "Create Content" and DAZ 3D gives FREE instructions on how to use these tools to create content either for your own endeavors or, if you wish to really pour high quality into it, sell as a product that others can use for their use, too.
Blondie9999 just released, yet another really informative bit of higher-end instructions toward those endeavors. As you can see by the quotes in the descriptions of her instructional products, most of us, Published Artists, use her advice from all of her laboring over extensive details towards how this stuff really works and behaves - and how to get the results you really are looking for, in our own work flow resource knowledge.
Carrara has the power to do a lot of nearly the same types of things within. And if you only need it to stay within Carrara, so be it. But I've been finding that Daz Studio Pro is making a great workflow enhancement for my own needs - and is expanding my horizons as a PA - as it's really fun to use Carrara ability to allow us to model in the Assembly room (new in version 8) so that we can sculpt our designs directly onto the figure blank with all of the tools and power of the vertex modeling room, in a work space where we can see the entire scene - whatever it is we have in there. Then, since our obj export presets work well with DS import presets, and our SubD modeling techniques carry over nicely as SubD in DS, we can then use DS Pro to transform our work into DSON, which Carrara 8.5 reads natively.
This is HUGE for someone like me, who is trying to push the envelope towards being a better PA. Offering a wider range of items of the highest quality, using the latest techniques used by my trusted fellow PA's here at DAZ 3D.
But back to the quote, above... the stuff I've been going off about is me and what "I" do and why "I" want and need the upgrade now. But DUDU_00001 is absolutely correct in that, if you don't want or need these, particular improvements... Carrara 9 may be the build you really want - which will have everything we're getting in 8.5 and more - as 8.5 truly was meant only to give Carrara DSON native support. It's just that DSON has grown so much lately, with the latest Daz Studio Pro (especially being able to get it for FREE for a limited time) and Genesis (Triax, altogether - including Horse 2 and some other up and coming surprises, to be sure (nothing official - just an educated guess)) being such a powerful way to create nearly anything as far as figures, and also the things that conform to them - that follow the shapes in such an advanced, new way - it's hard to pass up the huge advantage that DSON native support grants.
As Triax is still very new, I can feel a lot on the horizon - distant and immediate. GoFigure is likely to come up with some special new aniBlocks designed for this amazing new rig, SKAmotion has now joined the team and Posermocap, Cliff Bowman and the rest of the Poses and Animation Team, here at DAZ 3D, including myself, are likely to be coming up with some really exciting new motions and poses. This new rig is really fun to work with.
Of course, being native means that the Triax Skeleton looks exactly like a Carrara native rig - because, in Carrara, it is. This gives an amazing opportunity for those Carrara users whom endeavor to become animators. Using one of the official Triax figures directly, or just as great inspiration on how to professional rig and weight map a figure - it's right here. I personally love the new rig.
Ooops... gone off babbling again, eh Dartan?
Sorry folks!
Where was I? Oh yeah... DUDU_00001 has a good point, and speaks the truth. I just wanted to present some other thoughts to consider.
One thing people seem to forget, is the economy crashed (yes, crashed) and it hurt everybody unless you were a big bank or worked for one of the big Wall Street investment firms. That means smaller companies like DAZ had to be extremely careful where they put their limited R&D funds. I would have liked to see some more improvements to certain non-content centric areas of Carrara for this release, but I can understand why DAZ did what they did.
For everybody that's going to bitch about the content centric nature of this update, take a deep breath, step back, look at the big picture over the last few years and calm down. Hopefully C9 will provide some of the updates to core Carrara features that we want.
I agree with both of you. And, believe me when I say that the development team, as Rich says, is going to be very relieved when the DSON nativity and all that must go with it is finished and out the door, so they can focus their attention on some more fresh developmental ideas and concerns.
As Evil says, that crash was nasty. We're really lucky to still have Carrara development period. We truly are. DAZ_Kevin, the awesome fellow that he is regarding anything DAZ, and otherwise, is always very pumped about Carrara and its development - which is a great thing. It's always nice to have a big name, like his, at our backs, rooting for us - because he really doesn't have to. DAZ_Spooky is another king pin who has been most valiant at holding this all together through some pretty harsh times - and really deserves a big round of applause for seeing this whole thing through to what it has become - rather than calling it 'done' a while ago - foregoing what truly needed to be finished and addressed. This development is not cheap - and it's not easy.
A famous animation teacher taught me: 3D modeling and animation applications can only exist through the effort of genius minds. For to make the application work at all, one must be a genius.
Dartanbeck,
I believe that you are right to specify all that, but it is not necessary that DAZ forgets that we are not “purchasers” but “artists” to some extent!
They must know that truths amateurs of animation, modeling etc, do not need really their contents which are far from being realistic and when that resembles it, in fact almost always items are seen only in imaginary films.
How they persist in this direction for a certain category of amateur, it is well, but it will be very easy for truths amateurs to turn towards C4D and even to iClone which takes enormous steps ahead!
It would be really damage because Carrara was, in combination with Poser, one of best the software 3D of our time.
I installed free Studio 4.6 but, I found only one poor copy of the interface of Poser which I do not like to use (except for some functions transposable in Carrara).
What we want, it is to be able to create without being disturbed by technical limitations of order.
With the realise of the upgrade C8.5, I have an enormous hope to see Carrara remaining in the race of the best 3D softwares!
(sorry for my english translation)
DUDU
I am excited for new Carrara!!! I may not be able to afford it, but I am hoping! :)
damn, this is like counting sleeps until Christmas
(except we buy the present)
Thanks Mike.
It has been an exceedingly long day and my personal processor (brain) is not doing as well as it should.