Male Products For Genesis 2 Female
RCDeschene
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Okay, as I'm quite sure the rest of you have noticed, there's a sudden release of products in the store supporting MALE characters on the G2F base. This is most noticeable with FW Nadia & Nailin. The Genesis merfolk stuff isn't discrediting that fact, either.
If this dose not get hopes up for Genesis 2 Male coming out this month, I don't know what will.
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If they can create male characters for G2F why would they need to bother to release G2M?
i seen that and am very tempted to buy the bundle even though the sale day is over, i'm wondering though if there will be a mertail for Genesis 2 Male or if he will be left out, for that reason i'm buying the both genesis and genesis 2 female mertails
Maybe some PA's are a little tiered of waiting for G2M hence the male for G2F lol
I'd be concerned if this becomes a trend, meaning male products will be split between G2M and G2F. G2M will already undoubtedly have less products then G2F let alone a split on top of it. Not mentioning a G2F male will lack the basic male UV's (M5, M6, BM 2 and possibly M4). A one off like that is fine, but it add's nothing for the G2M gene pool.
Remember that male products came out for V4 during the period between her release and M4's (I still own Vittorio!). Some people just want something in the new generation without waiting for the new male figure, and that's probably always going to happen. There's no reason to be pessimistic yet.
no offense meant to the artist, but the chest on the male morph for the G2F looks weird
I think that's the main reason why there is a G2F - bewbs
All good Sickle :) I'm most certain G2M will be fine. I just would be concerned if such a scenario actually happened, but its an extreme thought. Which is why I said "I’d be concerned if this becomes a trend".
As it was used for the purpose of mermaid variety, (especially in the absence of G2M) I think its justified, and had been handled rather well. You guys did a fantastic job after all :)
In generation 4, I will say I never used Victoria to make male characters despite the male characters/morphing ability which was available.
Yes and remember how long we waited for M4.
To make more money?
Genesis already proved there is no need for separate genders.
Does anyone even have the product? I want to see what the male character looks like compared to an actual Geneses male figure.
Not your ideal source for comparison, since he's mostly hidden, but I used Nalin for this render:
http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewreply/422981/
Having looked him over, I think he looks very nice, a bit of a different look from M5 and D5, being somewhat lean and muscular at the same time.
Well, according to the hype, the big advantage of the Genesis 2 gender-split is to have male & female rigging, so that means that while G2F can be shaped like a man, it still moves like a woman.
Alternatively, and if it turns out that's not actually the case, then maybe the hype was just... hype :ohh:
I didn't actually buy the character, nothing to do with its quality but because I've pretty much run out of money (just got my electricity bill, and this is for summer, god knows what it'll be like for winter time!!!). So unfortunately can't test for myself.
Trying for an actual comparison now. It is interesting. I can say that with the first couple M5 poses I tried to apply to him, he adopted the stance with a sort of feminized look to his shoulders and chest posture. So maybe there is something to it after all.
I'm actually more keen on him looking manly for this comparison, to see how he appears next to the guys, so I'm trying other poses.
Ok, here is D5, Nalin for G2F, and M5 standing together.
There is clearly some level of breast shaping that reveals his female origin, especially when next to the other men. I've found him to be useful for a different sort of look. His face in particular. (I think D5 is still my favorite male shape overall.)
Edit: added closer render of their faces.
wow, cool... just don't take him to the burger bar too often, or he'll end up with moobs to make a donut-eating copper jealous, hehehe.
Gotta love those ribs & surrounding muscles, good stuff.
Good job StoryPilot, and I agree about D5. I think Nalin would make a perfect drag queen (it was my first impression after a test render).
Adding some body fat to him and you got something really different, will show you (when the current ongoing render is done).
Nalin is interesting. Too bad he's going to be stuck in hip-huggers and crop tops without converting Genesis 1 clothing.
That was the big failure of V4Male. The shapes looked Bishonen, and there was very little clothing support (and some of it we only got after crying and screaming about it.) Not that there's anything wrong with Bishonen, but I don't want all (or even most) of my guys looking like elves.
I don't expect we'll get G2M as a morph. I actually hope we don't get G2M as a morph. I might even be kinda mad if G2M is a morph of G2F. If they're going to tell us that it's better for the clothing and characters that there is a base gender split, then don't make that BS by making the G2M a morph of the G2F... sorry. I'll stop now.
I'm also not expecting G2M this month. G2F hasn't had six months worth of releases yet.
I think Michael 6 will be out in Oct or November. I have no insight or anything, just a feeling.
I do like Nalin. He's a cutie.
Nalin is a cutie indeed.. and oh so eager to play too *grins*
thanks totte. yes, he can definitely go very well as a drag queen, not to mention certain male fashion models i think. you've got me interested to see what you do to him fattening him up...
Meh... After looking at those, I guess he looks okay for what he is. Looking at his Merfolk images, in some angles the feminism in his eyes and face make him look Native or Asian. Great for ethnicity (which G2F still needs releases for), but he's still no Genesis male... Michael & David are still more authentically masculine looking than him, and I actually LIKE feminine males...
No, DAZ themselves and many ninja PA's, MallenLane (the creator) among them, made clear that they are two completely different base figures. Though, if by wild chance G2M were to end up as a G2F morph, then I would be more than royally pissed.
But if they do release another female character this month, it will only go to show that DAZ is deliberately saving the males until after the females have their hours of fame.
I'm pretty confident we are getting at least one more G2F character before we see the guy, based on some wiki hunting the other day... and as long as we are betting, i'm taking a random stab at january for G2M. :)
my thinking: M5 was 6 mos after V5, so 6 months after V6 would be late december, and as mentioned, he's not going to be a morph for the same figure, so he could well take longer. plus january is my birthday month.
That was when Bruno was born. :-) He was made originally for Vittorio but I didn't have the ways or means or talent to sculpt my own faces and body shapes back then so he had a very odd look to him but the skin was popular! lol
IMO, G2F has had a satisfactory period of solo market. Sure, she lacks in some areas of content, but for a male figure to get the same amount of content as what G2F has now, it would likely take 12months (or more). Even if G2M got released today, I'd expect G2F will once again dominate the sale releases within 2-3 weeks of his release.
I just came back from a long hiatus and I am sorely disappointed in finding out that there is a Genesis 2 only after a year. I mean the M4 and V4 figures enjoyed a really long period of popularity. To date, people are still developping contents for them. My impression was the Genesis, as a base figure, would have solved the gender split issue associated with clothing (i.e. wearing a piece of clothing / accessory designed for the opposite gender w/o using a converter).
What's going to happen to all the Genesis clothing and mats I have invested in? I hope the mats will be made compatible with G2M
It's very easy to use Gen 4 and Genesis materials on G2F. It probably will be for G2M, too. I don't know that an M4 UV will be made for it, that having been a 3rd party product, but I hope and suspect it will (I know the V4 one sold very well).
What I suspect won't happen is a V4/V5 UV for G2M, and that's sad, because I like crossover fantasy/sf products like Dariofish's that tend to use the V4 UV, and I know Fuse and I are doing Genesis/G2F work on the V5 that would easily fit with male fantasy or horror characters.
Similarly, Genesis clothing autofits REALLY well to G2F and absolutely will to G2M, too (and G2F/G2M stuff to each other). I mean it works a LOT better than autofit from Gen 4 to Genesis did.
Regardless if Daz does make a G2M you know what's going to happen; the content creators will focus on the female model (because sex sells) and either forget or very rarely provide content for all the other models (Male, Child, Toon, Gorilla, etc). I'll am sitting out the whole G2 thing and saving my hard earned bucks for G3U; the return of the Genesis Unisex. You know what they say "third times a charm" so my guess is it will take Daz three attempts to get it right.
You mean, get it right again. First time was a smashingly revolutionizing success as is.
You mean, get it right again. First time was a smashingly revolutionizing success as is.
Except for DAZ, apparently.
Except for DAZ, apparently.
Oh yes, the "versatility at all costs" that sacrificed so much realistic detail in morphs and clothing... G2F's stuff is SO much better, I can totally see the difference! :'D [/sarcasm]
Sorry, but I know we've yet to see G2M, but really, we're already three, almost four characters into Gen 6 and I'm sorry, I agree with the grudgy grumps that we've still yet to see what a gender-specific split is doing for PA content...