In which I horribly make my computer- and DS-WORSE
DisparateDreamer
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I've been having increasingly serious issues with my computer since DS4.6, and had been convinced, after trying everything else, it must be something with my registry or windows install.
So this weekend, I backed it up, and then reformatted and reinstalled windows 7 (and also learned that the dude who built my computer and sold me all the parts, while giving me a box, booklet, and driver cd for ONE motherboard, also installed a DIFFERENT motherboard...gee thanks man. life in asia, sheesh).
After much suffering, i got this installed, got the drivers for it (that was freakin hard for the motherboard), i downloaded 4.6, i reinstalled it on a freshly set up computer, and go to play....
and man. it is ten times worse than ever. over ten minutes to load V4. EVERY. FREAKING. TIME. Genesis, while not as bad, used to load in 30 seconds or less- now takes a few minutes. Every time. Dawn loads in a minute. There is that.
I'm ready to throw my computer- or DS- out the window. I'm on the verge of a meltdown.
Did I mention this was a brand new computer as of half a year ago??
:'(
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If you fire up Task Manager while V4 (or any of the figures) are loading, does it show the DAZStudio.exe task chewing up 100% CPU? or something else? Or does it show DAZStudio.exe taking like <1% CPU, and (possibly) everything else also taking <1% CPU.</p>
That sort of performance sounds like you've got either a (new) virulent virus scanner nobbling your speed, a network lookup going on, or possibly a file caching setting wrong. If the machine is permanently connected to the internet, have you tried disconnecting, rebooting, and trying DS loading a figure again? (just a thought...). Certainly suspicious whether you have all the right drivers installed though... but in that case, _every_ application should be slow (are they?).
Does the machine have a Solid State Drive (SSD) as C: ? did you move your runtimes about perhaps?
With regards to the mismatched hardware/disk, I'd call the manufacturer and tell them you have one motherboard installed, but was given a format disk based on a different motherboard. This can cause conflicts, and is also the reason why it's suggested to reformat whenever you change motherboards.
If you can afford it, forget about calling their tech support and break the format disk that came with your PC, and find an actual copy of Windows 7 to install.
Sounds like it could be a hard-drive issue, could you post your specs.
What specs should I post?
My windows 7 cd is legit. The box/book/cd that go with my motherboard do not match my motherboard. I can only hope the rest matches because i have no clue.
Is your Win7 CD a standalone disk, or is it marked with the builder's logo and whatever junk and called a quick restore disk?
http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/everest_free_edition.html
That should give you a list of all the parts in your computer
http://www.ehow.com/how_6196512_check-hardware-components-pc.html
also good
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/pc-wizard.html
also if you get team viewer I may be able to help you out a little bit better.
I will check those out tomorrow JohnDelaquiox.. i'm going to take a nap, I've been fighting computer all weekend and 2 nights with almost no sleep. :(
It is a full win 7 cd. not a quick restore. I specifically bought, and got, windows 7, full cd.
I was so sure simply reformatting and reinstalling would fix everything. But seems i made many things worse. As well as new problems.
Did you delete your old partitions or install over them
My C drive was partitioned, into C and D. C had all the program files, D had my runtime and documents.
I reformatted and reinstalled windows on the C drive. i left D drive alone.
run a check disk when you can on both partitions. I can also recommend a few antivirus programs and tools.
If that's the case, then the motherboard won't matter as full windows cds aren't motherboard specific.
There is a chance though that you've downloaded/installed incorrect drivers?
How much RAM? Have you updated your video card drivers? Is DAZ Studio "allowed" in your Anti Virus program? If not add it. If it's not getting the OK handshake with the system then it could be slowing things down allot. There are so many variables to what causes a system to balk at running a program. CHKDSK is a very smart idea that John mentioned, just to make sure.
A long time ago, I rebuilt my C: drive and suffered subsequent sluggishness due to the hard drive being constantly accessed. I blamed it on having my DAZ content folder set for Windows file indexing for faster searches. Windows was rebuilding the index file because the index file was stored on my C: drive.
You can check what folders have indexing turned on by going to Start>Control Panel. Search for Indexing Options and you should get a link to the Index Options panel which will show what folders are ear marked for file indexing. If you want to stop indexing on a folder, click on the Modify button and uncheck the box on that folder. Click on the Advanced button to see where the index file is stored.
I'd be willing to bet that Lindsey has the answer. IIRC, out of the box Windows tries to index all attached disk drives - and this is very I/O intensive.
On my system it only seem to do this when the computer is idle. I can see on the disk activity LED that the disks are being scanned when it is, but as soon as I touch the mouse or keyboard it stops.
On my system it only seem to do this when the computer is idle. I can see on the disk activity LED that the disks are being scanned when it is, but as soon as I touch the mouse or keyboard it stops.
That's the way it s supposed to work - but on one of my systems the indexing process insisted on using 50% of the CPU at all times and was pounding on a large drive that had LOTS of small files.
I haven't enabled/allowed indexing since - it gets disabled right after I disable the recycle bin. :-)
Ahh.. the indexing is something I always forget about. I have an SSD as my OS drive so some of the first things I did when I installed/reformatted was turn off sleep and indexing. lol
16 gb ram, i had someone professional help me with the drivers, i turned of indexing on the daz stuff, i turned off antivirus to see if things would run faster and they didn't. I did find something that wasn't getting along well with Daz and that sped things up. But, unfortunately, I'm still having serious graphics problems in DS- which is why i tried so much to reinstall windows- because i cant make the AO's new SSS shaders work, and i have constant issues with graphics and viewport bugging out bad in DS. I'm so freaking frustrated.
Poser 9's on sale now for 30 bucks right? *laughs weakly*
What are the details of your Machine? Is it Intel or AMD? Is windows 7 32bit or 64bit? What brand of graphics are you using?
Intel, 64 bit. Nvidia Quadro 600 graphics card.
Intel, 64 bit. Nvidia Quadro 600 graphics card.
Your Computer looks to be a great system you just need to tweak it.
I would try and make sure all my drivers especially the Nvidia drivers are 64bit and get them from Nvidia not your card manufacturer The card manufacture people don't usually update their stuff usually. Usually Direct X 11 is installed with your drivers but just check your Nvidia Panel and see button with green i symbol and press it will tell you about your version of drivers & version of Direct X. I would also get latest Direct X from Microsoft. Also do you have service pack 1 for Windows 7? To see what is happening in your system press buttons all at the same time CTRL+ALT+DEL. This will bring up the Windows Task Manager: under the processes tab look and see what is 64bit and what is 32bit. Under Performance tab you can see how many cores you have & how much free memory you have.
Can you post a Screen Capture of what your problems look like? If you have your system installed and working correctly and everything looks good in 2D but you have problems in 3D then it is not your system but the video card that is faulty but we are not there yet.
One thing to check too and that is often overlooked is the way your disk controller is handling your drive. Some manufacturers set it at "emulated IDE" by default, which is a big mistake. You won't then benefit of some advanced features like NCQ for your SATA drive. It should be set to SATA or RAID mode. If it is not, then you have to do a fresh install of windows after configuring the bios to get it working right but you may also need to install the controller driver during installation with a floppy disk (or so was it not sure with Win7). Do it with the help of your tech guy. And don't just enable it in Bios. Your computer will certainly not boot if not installed properly with that configuration
About the indexing service, I've been told it works better with with 7 but didn't check if that is true. I didn't disable it and didn't see any problem yet
However none of what I've seen explains your problem with DS. I think there is something else. Your computer is far more powerful than my desktop PC but I load genesis and other figures very quickly. I would have awaited for V4 to be way quicker than Genesis, so that is very strange. What you can do to check what's going on is to fire up DS, then the Task manager and filter from the more CPU intensive task to the lowest. Then load V4 and check if something is eating up CPU time while loading V4
If nothing shows up, I'd check the disk where you put your runtime. The disk could have bad sectors which could slow down loading. Do a Checkdisk and defragment it