Creature Creator - a disappointment!

cobuspcobusp Posts: 303
edited November 2018 in Carrara Discussion

I was initially very excited - especially with its add-on "Awesome Creatures for Creature Creator Genesis 2 Male(s)" which enabled much more random mix-and-match options.

But alas. Though has fantastic morphs, those huge ears constantly get in the way!! This is a big issue for me, because when I apply a creature preset, its ears affect any conforming head cover such as a hooded robe (see samples 1-2). Ok, so I figured that buying the add-on would give me enough freedom to at least hide any ears. But, the demon character that I wanted to use, still cannot get fixed even if I apply the "No ears" morph. All that happens, is slightly smaller ears (sample 3). And I simply cannot get the same look when trying to build it from scratch.

Is there any way to prevent conforming clothing from adapting the same morphs as those from the main figure? Or can the vendor not just add an option to make those huge, pointy ears that apply tor most creatures invisible?

 

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  • turn the morph for the ears down on the hair, hood etc

  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,691

    Have had lots of fun with the Creature Creator series.

    There is also the CDI https://www.daz3d.com/capsces-creature-creator-shapes-for-genesis-2-male-s

  • cobuspcobusp Posts: 303

    turn the morph for the ears down on the hair, hood etc

    How do I do this? The hood does not seem to have the sme morphs. And the figure has no hair atached?

  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,691
    cobusp said:

    turn the morph for the ears down on the hair, hood etc

    How do I do this? The hood does not seem to have the sme morphs. And the figure has no hair atached?

    Which hood are you using, if I have it I will take a look for you ?

  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,691
    edited November 2018

    Plan B - Do you have X-Morphs for DAZ Studio by any chance ?

    With X-Morphs you can create a seperate ear morph from the Demon head, then adjust the parameters to -100%, so when dialed together with the Demon head morph you end up with normal ears.

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  • cobusp said:

    turn the morph for the ears down on the hair, hood etc

    How do I do this? The hood does not seem to have the sme morphs. And the figure has no hair atached?

     

    odd, anything dialed up should appear listed in parameters in the hood too, look under actor/model as well as head etc
  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,691
    cobusp said:

    turn the morph for the ears down on the hair, hood etc

    How do I do this? The hood does not seem to have the sme morphs. And the figure has no hair atached?

     

    odd, anything dialed up should appear listed in parameters in the hood too, look under actor/model as well as head etc

    I have the Hooded Cloak, am having the same problems, only morphs found in the Hood are the pre-existing hood cloak morphs. Have not been able to get a workaround if the hood is fitted to G2M.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,289
    edited November 2018

    I only geta link to my library trying your link so not sure I actually  have the right product to test

    is it this one?

    https://www.daz3d.com/creature-creator-hd-for-genesis-2-male-s

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  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,691

    I only geta link to my library trying your link so not sure I actually  have the right product to test

    is it this one?

    https://www.daz3d.com/creature-creator-hd-for-genesis-2-male-s

    https://www.daz3d.com/awesome-creatures-for-creature-creator-genesis-2-male-s

  • I only geta link to my library trying your link so not sure I actually  have the right product to test

    is it this one?

    https://www.daz3d.com/creature-creator-hd-for-genesis-2-male-s

    https://www.daz3d.com/awesome-creatures-for-creature-creator-genesis-2-male-s

    no I don't have that addon

  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,691

    I only geta link to my library trying your link so not sure I actually  have the right product to test

    is it this one?

    https://www.daz3d.com/creature-creator-hd-for-genesis-2-male-s

    https://www.daz3d.com/awesome-creatures-for-creature-creator-genesis-2-male-s

    no I don't have that addon

    I just checked the item and it needs the HD version that you first linked to. Do you have that item ?

    The Hooded Cloak that I have also appears different to the one he has pictured, so may be another item.

  • that said hoods are generally a PITA over hairs too, I usually end up chopping bits off or hiding by creating extra surfaces but yes you need to stop the autofollow on the hood with the ears, if its a full body morph the whole morph needs to be in fact dialled out, I will look when I can, got something rendering at moment.

  • cobuspcobusp Posts: 303

    I only geta link to my library trying your link so not sure I actually  have the right product to test

    is it this one?

    https://www.daz3d.com/creature-creator-hd-for-genesis-2-male-s

    Yes - that is the one! And then the added features too.the product I'm using is the CLoak item from the "Wildenlander HD for gen 2 Males" fantasy dress. See attached.

    I probably do not have the HD version - do you think that may be the reason it's not working properly? Does one buy it separately?

     

     

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  • cobuspcobusp Posts: 303

    Plan B - Do you have X-Morphs for DAZ Studio by any chance ?

    With X-Morphs you can create a seperate ear morph from the Demon head, then adjust the parameters to -100%, so when dialed together with the Demon head morph you end up with normal ears.

    I will keep X-Morphs as a last resort if all else fails, thanks. I don;'t want to pay unnecessarily for a Daz Studio plugin if I;'m not really using it.

  • cobusp said:

    I only geta link to my library trying your link so not sure I actually  have the right product to test

    is it this one?

    https://www.daz3d.com/creature-creator-hd-for-genesis-2-male-s

    Yes - that is the one! And then the added features too.the product I'm using is the CLoak item from the "Wildenlander HD for gen 2 Males" fantasy dress. See attached.

    I probably do not have the HD version - do you think that may be the reason it's not working properly? Does one buy it separately?

     

     

    HD does not work in Carrara I got it for DAZ studio, I will have a quick look on the Carrara beta as my render has 2 hours to go, Luthbel tends to lack morphs in his clothes too so that hood probably not adjustable, will see soon

  • it is a Carrara not seeing autofollow issue that will need fixing in DAZ studio

    you need to load the clock on the figure there and dial down the ears and then save that morph as a support asset morph so Carrara will see it

  • sadly though a slider now appears its stuck on 100% 

    I think it will need to be saved in DAZ studio as a scene subset but I don't have time to test it before work

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,289
    edited November 2018

    OK you can delete the ear morph target in the vertex room but then none of the morphs work but hood sits flat

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  • cobuspcobusp Posts: 303

    Wow, thank you so much for your effort, Wendy. I will defenitely try your suggestions over the weekend. 

    This clearly fixes the issue with cloak, but those ears still pierce through tho. Perhaps I should just try create a custom morph in Caarara to get rid of them.

  • cobusp said:

    Wow, thank you so much for your effort, Wendy. I will defenitely try your suggestions over the weekend. 

    This clearly fixes the issue with cloak, but those ears still pierce through tho. Perhaps I should just try create a custom morph in Caarara to get rid of them.

    well if he has ears they are always going to be in the way, thats unavoidable

    only solution I know is a prop coat and dynamics I would use VWD myself

  • video

    the solution is to find the morphs under ears on figure and cloak and edit smooth with displacenent brush and validate

  • cobuspcobusp Posts: 303

    video

    the solution is to find the morphs under ears on figure and cloak and edit smooth with displacenent brush and validate

    There you go - fantastic. Wendy, thanks for all your effort. You are a star!

  • cobuspcobusp Posts: 303

    A video tutorial even with professional sound trtack included! Amazing

     

    Thank you.

  • cobuspcobusp Posts: 303

    A video tutorial even with professional sound trtack included! Amazing

     

    Thank you.

  • just a youtube audio library track cheeky

    and a 17 hour delayed double post?

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