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Beta version of the HD Morph plugin is now available for testing in the CTS projet file repository. At this stage, it's only for Windows. I plan to work on the OSX version next week.
Here is a short tutorial on how to import Hd details from Studio into Carrara:
Tomorrow, I'll try to setup another tutorial on how to create your very own hd morph straight in Carrara.
Oh awesome Philemo it works indeed
tried RawArts deep sea creature for Genesis and he has all his spikey horns
rendering a quick animation
Happy to see it works for you also. I'm eager to see your animation.
Woohoo, works well - many thank-yous !!! Mervin the Alien HD for Genesis 8 Male - https://www.daz3d.com/mervin-the-alien-hd-for-genesis-8-male
Another trial - Orc HD for Genesis 8 Male - https://www.daz3d.com/orc-hd-for-genesis-8-male
Thank you Bunyip,
It looks very impressive. I have 2 questions:
happy joys!!
and I stuck at work. has to wait hours before i can try.
The HD morphs work via morphs and the level of subD, so it could, in theory, be made for anything. But when you get a Daz3d HD addon, it likely include both HD morphs (draws MUCH higher detail onto the actual mesh itself) as well as HD textures.
In Carrara, we might see a little change if we dial up an HD morph, but according to Daz3d, it still isn't compatible. The thing is, for it to really work, we'd also need to increase the subD smoothing level to the necessary level - like from 2 to 3 or 4, for example. But HD textures (like HD Normal Map, for example) will work just fine, if included. But the thing about HD morphs is that they often don't need HD normal maps since the mesh is refined to such a minute detail level - hence its truly magnificent breakthrough - all starting from the first generation Genesis figure technology of using a subD shell.
In Carrara, we can make HD morphs for any mesh. We simply increase the subD level and sculpt or model detail into the new micro levels, making the GoZ for Carrara plugin a real piece of magic for those whom might have Zbrush. Of course, those refinements would have to stay in Carrara unless we're a PA with the granted use of the plugin that allows us to bring these details into Daz Studio to add to an existing figure.
this is the Genesis 1 Deep sea Creature one of the earliest HD characters dancing
still trying to import a level 4 mesh G8M its a damn big obj 800K+
I have a sneaky suspicion that it works in Carrara much better than using displacement maps for sure!
People - I know it might be tempting to crank up the subD smoothing even higher. Before doing so, start task manager and prepare yourself to manually kill Carrara if it locks up tight! SubD smoothing of 2 is a very highly detailed mesh on Genesis (1-8) figures and, for each of those tiny new subD polygons, a level of subD 3 further cuts each of those into four and then applies its smoothing algorithm. Just saying... use levels highers than 2 only for those close-ups where you really, really need it!
Holy cow Philemo, this is amazing! Brilliant and much needed plugin for Carrara to be able to use a LOT of Daz content to its highest degree! Bravo!
It's amazing how many Genesis 2 character products include HD morphs - I know I have quite a few, as I had a lot of fun collecting for experimentation back when I was a PA.
Thank You!!!
I have to try that. You make me feel like I'v spent 1 month reinventing something already in Carrara
Have you tried the Phong Tessallation plugin. Using it at half pixel precision, you have results comparable to HD Morphs
No. I'm sorry. The best means I would have for that (on figures) would be Carrara's displacement modeling feature, since I don't have Zbrush, and don't feel skilled enough to manually model such High Definition detail.
I was always meaning to try it, but my desire to learn was in an entirely different direction.
I saw it, read on it, and downloaded it, but haven't yet tried it. Now I have to build/buy a new computer before any of this will work for me :(
now i hazta start my new bookcovers all over again with gianni6 hd
so, i can higher subd millenium dragon and not break his morphs?
the genesiseses use both hd morph and tiff displacements. resource hogs.
Just some fun background info -
The process of Normal Mapping is what really allowed artists to bring their Zbrush (or MudBox, 3D Coat, etc.,) high def creations to the real time render engines (for gaming, mostly) without bogging everything down. It's a helluva process, but so worth it in the end. That's when 3D games started looking much more Real!
Gaining the ability to use Normal Maps in Carrara was first introduced via plugins by Inagoni and DCG - and added internally in Carrara 8 or 8.5 and really upped the game for getting higher-end micro-detail renders. The above link does a much better job of explaining Normal Mapping but in short, a highly detailed mesh is remodeled into a very low density mesh, to which the surface details of the high density mesh are mapped via a color code that allows an algorithm in the render engine to quickly 'fake' the appearance of the high density mesh while actually using the low one.
This never actually adds polygons to the low density mesh, but allows for the data acquired from the baked Normal Map to intervene with lighting in such a way as to make the whole thing work as if it actually did.
Subdivision Surface Modeling takes this all a step further by actually allowing (and alternatively dis-allowing) the use of actual higher levels of details in the actual mesh. Since the higher level details are modeled at certain levels of subdivision, we can lower the subdivision level to remove those details - either from our working view, the render, or both. Of course we'd never work in a level higher than we'll be rendering at, so most software won't even allow us to set the working view higher than the render level.
That being said, when setting up our scenes in Carrara, we may set the render level to the high density we need in our final output, but completely turn off SubD Smoothing in our working view, which truly speeds up our ability to work fluidly within the scene. This alone makes for a HUGE difference between working with levels of SubD compared to working with Displacement. HUGE!
Lucky for us Daz3d users, Daz 3D has adopted this technology right from its beginning. Genesis 1 was the initial Daz 3D SubD cage technology, and Daz Studio 4 was the software that could read it and make it work. Since they followed the technology properly, this tech is easily transported into software other than Daz Studio. In other words, they didn't choose to use some kind of proprietory tech that only work in Studio, for example. But since Genesis X and Studio grew with one another, they work beautifully within their designed platform.
Lucky for us Carrara users, Daz 3D was able to write this tech also into an update for Carrara - Carrara 8.5!
I find it truly amazing how well Genesis 1 (using virtually any of its shapes) renders without any SubD at all, making this a great way to get several characters into larger scenes.
don't try subdivision 3 folks
well you can but it's not pretty animated or using Mimic
I am animating it to see what happens
Back when I was a PA, we required a special plugin to bring HD details onto Genesis figures in DS. Not sure if that's still true or not.
But this plugin works in the same way, but in reverse - going from DS into Carrara. So if anyone wants to try, go ahead and sculpt finer details into a Genesis figure in Carrara, and export that as a morph mesh and see if it loads onto the figure in DS.
Making HD morphs isn't in my interest range - yet. But using DS HD morphs is!
Philemo... I Love You, Man!!!
Wendy,
I had this kind of results when subdivision levels in Carrara (either modelling or rendering) is different from the one set in Studio during the export.
Is it the case here ?
I agree with that. My remark was about sculpting in Carrara with subdivision set.
well actually bumping it up to 5 seemed to fix it in Carrara, used all my RAM and crashed Octane
I will export it the default load which was 2 modeling 4 rendering I had put both to 3 in studio
poser used to do that to ngons. but carrara is okay with ngons.
I suppose you have already tried both 3 in Carrara. If I understand correctly, it was animating correctly with level 2 everywhere and it went very wrong with level 3 everywhere.
I will do some more tests at that SubD level.
The problem is that it won't be with that figure.