No Carrara 8.5 Pro upgrade from 8.0 Pro???????????
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I don't see any upgrade for Carrara 8.5 Pro from 8.0 Pro. Is this correct?
I saw a posting about platinum club members getting a discount, which I am not. I don't have any need for the platinum club because I don't buy much content.
So do current non-platinum club 8.0 owners really need to pay the same price as a new owner? $285 seems pretty steep to upgrade from 8.0 to 8.5. It seems like the purchase of prior version should qualify for an upgrade. I've never had to be a club member and pay a monthly fee to qualify for an upgrade of ANY software package.
I sure hope I'm missing something here......................
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For some reason the store is borked and confusing with the Carrara 8.5 upgrade. Add Carrara 8.5 Pro to your cart, then open your cart (go to your cart page), and the discounted price should be reflected there. I just check, and that is the way it worked for me.
Good luck!
I already did that before posting to check. It shows $285 in the cart. I suppose maybe the upgrade price is only valid for platinum club members as the other posting suggested.
Hi,
I upgraded from 8 pro to 8.5 pro and it was $85 with the Daz deal which automatically gives you 3 months Platinum club membership which lets you get the discount on the upgrade. I would not have taken PC membership but its the cheapest way for an upgrade. I have used PC for some bargain content and free stuff.
What deal? I can't find anywhere on the DAZ site that is offering that. Maybe the time frame for the discount is over. I suppose I'll probably just wait until version 9 is released in a few months. Hopefully they offer an upgrade price from 8.0 to 9.0.
The email for that offer went out during the PA sale, so it probably is over.
Hi, Sorry, Just checked the email and the offer ended on Sept 20th. The best option just now is to take out a monthly PC membership and you would get 40% off the upgrade price but its still more than the Sept offer. Unless your desperate for Genisis use in Carrara there is not much reason to upgrade and would be wise to wait for another better offer. You could contact Daz and say you missed the offer and you would buy 8.5 if you got the same offer.
Hope this helps
So I guess a software upgrade is a limited time "sale" price? I suppose DAZ has the right to charge whatever they want. Users like me who paid for and upgraded Carrara for the last several years are just now out of luck for an upgrade and need to buy the full product again if we want to upgrade.
Hopefully they will reconsider and offer an upgrade price. If not, then I guess there is no incentive to upgrade with version 9 coming out. If I'm stuck paying the same as a new user anyway then I can always wait and see what version 9 has and decide at that time. Then again, if there is not an upgrade from 8.0 to 9.0 then there will still not be much incentive unless the new features in 9.0 make it worth it to pay for a full version again.
IF you are seeing the price you say, then it is still 50% of the actual price of $549.95
Daz will probably put out more offers near the end of the year or start of next. Another deal I got was poser 9 bundle with anime studio and manga studio for $49. And as i did not have poser before it is well worth ir for the content and noe I'm seeing the great features of poser that I can use in Carrara like the motion and walk designer. Here is the offer link but I think it was only in September but you never know it might be extended.
http://news.smithmicro.com/c.html?ufl=b&rtr=on&s=jazae,ortg,siw,if34,48xz,gicf,bpxb&MLM_MID=1155796&MLM_UNIQUEID=bc0df857ff
There was a poser 9 only link aswell for $29.99
My point is that the price is the same for owner's of 8.0 as it is for new customers alike. For me, the few feature differences between 8.0 and 8.5 do not justify paying $285 dollars, especially since I don't need the Genesis 2 upgrade. In the past, upgrades have been $100, which seems reasonable.
Being a programmer myself, I like purchasing upgrades to help support the software development, even if I don't really need the new features, which is the case with 8.5 for me. However, they have out priced this for me this time by not offering an upgrade option any more.
I think you are being much too kind to DAZ. True, they are generous in many ways, but on this subject it is as if they want to phase out Carrara by charging too much for a marginal upgrade, and -- worst of all -- not honoring their loyal user base. I easily have over $1,000 in purchases of DAZ products, and I think to not even respond to customer support requests such as mine to explain the lack of an upgrade path from 8.0 Pro to 8.5 Pro is inexcusable. We deserve better than that.
One reason the upgrade price not counting any discounts was much higher than for previous upgrades was because DAZ decided to include the M5 & V5 Pro bundles as part of Carrara 8.5 Pro which increased the price.
If you have one or both of the V5 & M5 Pro bundles you could contact sales and ask if they can discount the price because you have one or two of the bundles already that comes with it and see what they say.
I would have preferred a Pro Option that would let have not included those bundles and another that would have as many Carrara users already had both of those bundles.
Carrara will go on sale again in the next couple of weeks so check the sales everyday. DAZ usually run a software sale on Carrara around the end of the year. So the upgrade price will get discounted at that time.
It shouldn't be - if you have Carrara 8.0 you should see a 50% discount after the sub-total when you go to the full-page cart view (not the pop-up cart you get on a store page). If you don't please contact customer support.
Quite frankly I find it a little bit funny that someone would suggest $285 is anywhere close to a reasonable price, especially for someone who already has the previous release. You do understand that effectively it would mean paying twice for roughly 95+% of the program?
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Quite frankly I find it a little bit funny that someone would suggest $285 is anywhere close to a reasonable price, especially for someone who already has the previous release. You do understand that effectively it would mean paying twice for roughly 95+% of the program?
Edited to adjust tone or sumn.
I understand what you saying, but it is still not much, compare to other 3D programs that exist out there. If you take Cinema 4D from Maxon for an example. The software cost is near the $1000, unless you own another 3D package to get that lower.
Now Maxon update to the latest version are never free, but if you pay for MSA licence support, then the next update will be free but you need to pay the MSA, the MSA value depends on the version of C4D you own. Me cost $295 for last years, Carrara cost less than that for the update. If I compare but software, the basic of Cinema 4D is missing function and render settings that Carrara has and even at full price, Carrara is still cheaper.
I own but version, I see things work better in one over the other but if I want the same render settings from Carrara in Cinema 4D I have to get the broadcast version. I ask how much it would be, he told me to upgrade from Basic version to Broadcast, $795 and I need to upgrade my MSA service licence too since I am changing software.
I know that its not everyone that has the money to pay for upgrades, but still Carrara is still cheaper and can do great things with it. Carrara Café is showing amazing work and renders done with Carrara.
Anyway, I saw my final price when I decided to do a checkout of my software and it was still half price. I paid mine 142.50 and I am not a Platinum member.
Hi
I upgraded to 8.5 just a couple of days ago (on the 26th November) and the grand total with 8.5 and 3 months of PC membership was $102.30 - bargain!
Paul
My point is that the price is the same for owner's of 8.0 as it is for new customers alike. For me, the few feature differences between 8.0 and 8.5 do not justify paying $285 dollars, especially since I don't need the Genesis 2 upgrade. In the past, upgrades have been $100, which seems reasonable.
Being a programmer myself, I like purchasing upgrades to help support the software development, even if I don't really need the new features, which is the case with 8.5 for me. However, they have out priced this for me this time by not offering an upgrade option any more.
Well, when Daz started with the Beta for C8.5Pro, we were told it would be a "nominal" fee for the upgrade. In my book, nominal is between $25-$50. A lot of other Carrara users felt the same way and you can find their posts somewhere (unless they have been deleted) in the forums.
I agree with you, I didn't mind dropping a little money to help with the development costs, but this is crazy.
All that said, when it launched, the price, IF you were a PC Club member AND if you bought with a coupon (or some such thing, can't remember) the price would be $85. Still a little higher than some of the artists who use Carrara could afford and more than we were told (if one understands the term "nominal") it would be.
The term nominal is extremely vague and subject to quite a bit of personal perspective. To Daz, a nominal fee may be averaged against what comparable apps by other developers charge for their upgrades. As Spaceland pointed out with his C4D comparison, the DAZ upgrade price, even excluding the introductory special is much less. DAZ must also balance its development costs as well. Programmers need a place to live, and food to eat just like everybody else, and the last time I checked, DAZ was a business that needs to generate a profit. So a nominal fee to DAZ is going to be different than your idea of a nominal price.
If enough people feel that DAZ's nominal fee is too high, then DAZ may have to offer other incentives or lower the price. Personally, due to financial issues the last couple years, I've been in a holding pattern for major purchases other than the necessities, so I couldn't afford it, and yet I feel the upgrade price was not unreasonable. To be honest, even if I had the money, I may have passed on this version and waited for C9 because the benefits weren't in the areas that I wanted to see improvements. I also realize I am not everybody else and Genesis and its trappings are very important to others. If I were in that camp, then I would have bought the upgrade finances permitting.
It is what it is, there's not much point in beating the old mare into the ground, as DAZ obviously feels it can sell the upgrade at the price it set. Knowing DAZ, more than likely in the-not-to-distant future, DAZ will have a another sale or two.
Sorry but i have put in the cart the 8.5 pro "i have 8.0 pro" and i think is one error in the total:
Carrara 8.5 Pro
Price $85.50
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Carrara Surface and Skin Shaders
Carrara Surface and Skin Shaders
Price $14.95
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Cart Subtotal: $185.95
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85,50+14,95=185.95??? what is this?:)):lol:)
ops.. ok now work !
now the total is:$100.45
Thank you!