Presets gone. Help!

edited December 1969 in Daz Studio Discussion

The presets of the surfaces pane are gone! I can't figure out why. I have a significant number of presets created. Please help.

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  • ShelLuserShelLuser Posts: 749
    edited December 1969

    Just to rule out the obvious: Is it possible that you selected something in your scenery? Surfaces is a 'dynamic' pane which uses the smart content approach. So it'll display certain presets depending on the object you have or haven't selected. Could this apply?

    In the end the best way to make sure if this stuff is really missing or if it's simply your content 'database' having a hiccup I'd check out the content library pane.

    Open it, go to "DAZ Studio Formats -> DAZ 3D Library (*) -> People -> Genesis (*) -> Materials".

    * : in case the library it could be named differently on your end, and in the case of Genesis you should obviously look for the materials which were missing.

    If you can find those presets in the content library tab then they're fortunately not gone, but as hinted it might be an issue of your content "database" having a hiccup.

  • edited December 1969

    It does not matter what I select. No presets appear. I'm using all custom made objects and materials which I saved the presets for. They were all in the unassigned category. That is gone now as well as the other categories that used to be listed there. Inspite of selecting an object in the scene, it is always saying "no selection." What might have happened is daz crashed a while ago on me when trying to select to many materials from the Surfaces/editor. So that might of done something with out me realizing it for a while. In fact, it will crash every time if I select to many materials at once and then go to perform another task. It forces a computer power down. Nothing appears in the smart content pane either by the way. The assets for the standard content are where you suggested to look. Where are my presets though!! I did a search and it appears the material files are still present (.dsf &.duf -cant rem which one is the material lol ). Holy crap I've got a lot of time invested. Worse case, would reinstalling Daz get the presets to reappear?

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,252
    edited December 1969

    It sounds as if the Content Management Service is not running. However, as ShelLuser says, you should be able to find the files in the folder you saved them to in the Content Library pane. Did you save your user data since saving the presets (or at all)?

  • JimmyC_2009JimmyC_2009 Posts: 8,891
    edited November 2013

    Nothing appears in the smart content pane either by the way

    That is the clue, your CMS is probably not running. Check in the Task Manager for Content Management Server as a running process. If it is not running (as I suspect), then you can try starting it from Start > All Programs > DAZ 3D > DAZ Content Management Service.

    See if that helps.

    Sorry Richard, another XPost.

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  • edited November 2013

    First thanks for the replies. No it's not running in the Task manager. Plus CMS is not to be found in All Programs > DAZ 3D > DAZ Content Management Service. Interesting. How do i fix it?

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  • JimmyC_2009JimmyC_2009 Posts: 8,891
    edited December 1969

    What OS are you using? I am on Win 7 and that is where it is located for me.

    Are you using DIM to install with, if not, you would need to find CMS to uninstall it first, before reinstalling DAZ Studio? There is an uninstaller in the DAZ 3D folder in All Programs.

    There should be an uninstaller in C:\Program Files\DAZ 3D\Content Management Service\Uninstallers if it was installed correctly before, but it looks to me like it was not installed at all.

  • edited December 1969

    I use W7. The CMS folder and uninstaller are there. So just use the cms uninstaller and then reinstall with DIM?

  • edited December 1969

    Well i ran the CMS uninstaller.When i tried to run the Dim in hopes i could reinstall the CMS it errored out and then the short cut disappeared off the desktop. I found the exe on disc but it's broke. Tried to download the Dim for a new install and i get an error with some DIM removal exe because it detected a previous install. So it looks like i need to totally reinstall Daz. Will my presets load up on the new install?

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Re-installing DAZ Studio will replace the CMS and not hurt your content one bit. Just be sure you copy your DS path setup (which should auto read) to be safe. The paths to content are what are important in DS.

  • edited December 1969

    How important is the install manager? The piece of crap wont install because it can't uninstall a previous installation of Dim. It says it's missing Remove-Daz Dim1_32.dat. What a @#$% pain in the ass this has turned into thanks to daz crashing.

  • bicc39bicc39 Posts: 589
    edited December 1969

    You have no idea how much I hope you solve this problem.
    Have not had ability to use presets for months.
    Four installations ( two beta, two new versions)and a few reinstalls, still nothing.
    Tried all the suggestions listed here, still nothing.
    Best I ever got was "All" lighted up once.
    If you are successful please advise.
    One question, slightly personal, would you say you have a "lot" of content.
    Was thinking this might have a bearing .
    Thank you

  • edited December 1969

    Well, I just finished the reinstall of Daz and got all but one of my presets back it seems. At least one was missing. Still sorting through, but it looks like that is the only one so far that is missing. The material file is still there, but it wouldn't load it into the presets. So i was able to load my object, reskin it and save the preset again. Sounds like if that is the worse of it, i got off easy compared to you Bicc39. All i did was manually go in and run the cms uninstaller in C:\Program Files\DAZ 3D\Content Management Service\ to uninstall it. After that I uninstalled Daz (64bit) and reinstalled it. Seems to have worked at the moment. I do not have a lot of content either. Don't know if anyone else is running into the problem that led to this for me, but if I have a scene with a lot of surfaces, and i select too many of those surfaces at once in the editor to apply a texture or whatever to the group, and then forget to unselect them before doing other activities in daz, it would lock up and force me to turn the computer off! Not good at all.

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited November 2013

    I'm just a user myself with a title of Forum Admin. But these are things as a Forum Admin, who reads 99% of all posts to do the Admin job, have noticed over time. I have no idea if any of this applies to the posted errors.

    Most errors in DAZ Studio installs and DIM installs happen when a user has done a none standard install the first time. This causes it to be much harder to hunt down the issues as they are no longer found in the default locations.

    Many errors can happen on some PC's when the user does not know that DAZ Studio creates a default My Library content folder at install in the users My Documents user account. The DIM creates a Windows Compliant My DAZ 3D Library in the PUBLIC documents folder at install. DIM will default to installing files to the My DAZ 3D Library.

    The Type and Version of the OS used can also cause the errors to be hard to find or help with.
    The DIM must be configured to the proper PATHS the user will use for not only content installs but the types of content to install and also the paths to the locations of the applications used in both 32bit and 64bit for the proper plugins to be installed by DIM.
    DAZ Studio will need to be configured to use the proper PATHS for any and all content installed and Set to the proper type or types for the content held in that content folder. A DAZ Studio content folder will hold BOTH DAZ Studio files and POSER files and thus need listed as BOTH in the Pref's. A Poser only RUNTIME type folder will need listed as only a Poser type path. Both are listed by the TOP folder of that Content. EXAMPLE: a My DAZ 3D Library will be listed as both DAZ Studio and Poser type with just that folder listed as shown here.

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  • bicc39bicc39 Posts: 589
    edited December 1969

    Glad to see it worked for someone.
    Nothing here, will chalk it up to a workaround.
    But a subject was brought up.
    Got the impression there are two My Library for DAZ.
    One located in user my documents,
    One located in Public my documents.
    A problem I noticed awhile ago is that the DAZ Install manager was installing content to
    the one located in public. I never saw it in the program so I would manually redownload and manually
    reinstall it to the user library.
    When I finally found the "second " my library, I copied and pasted all to the user one.
    Found a lot I had missed.
    Now.
    1. Can I exist with just one. Cut and paste the second into the first and just make one.
    2. If not, why not.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,252
    edited December 1969

    yes you can merge them, or you can have both active, or you can use a completely different directory or directories. Just make sure that wherever you install to is listed as a content directory for DS, usually under both Poser formats and DAZ Studio Formats.

  • bicc39bicc39 Posts: 589
    edited December 1969

    Thank you.
    Added thought

    DAZ content manager
    :
    Knows both?
  • cm152335cm152335 Posts: 421
    edited December 1969

    Jaderail said:
    Re-installing DAZ Studio will replace the CMS
    and not hurt your content one bit. Just be sure you copy your DS path setup (which should auto read) to be safe. The paths to content are what are important in DS.

    note:
    re-installing DAZ > not install CMS!

    CMS comes with manualy install DIM

  • edited December 1969

    I'm sorry to report that what I thought was fixed isn't. Just now the presets decide not load again after working for a few sessions! How the heck does that work? Why work then just suddenly stop. I just don't get it. Major frustration because now I can't depend on Daz. What is the specific path that Daz looks for these presets?

  • edited December 1969

    My materials are here. C:\Users\username\Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio4\content\Material. I assume this where they are suppose to be.

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    cm152335 said:
    Jaderail said:
    Re-installing DAZ Studio will replace the CMS
    and not hurt your content one bit. Just be sure you copy your DS path setup (which should auto read) to be safe. The paths to content are what are important in DS.

    note:
    re-installing DAZ > not install CMS!

    CMS comes with manualy install DIMActually it will come with DIM on install AND DAZ Studio if you do the DAZ Studio EXE install and not a DIM install of the Program. I do Exe installs of ALL programs but DIM installs for all content and Plugins.

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    BlitzMan said:
    My materials are here. C:\Users\username\Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio4\content\Material. I assume this where they are suppose to be.
    What are your Content PATHS as listed in DAZ Studio Prefs. Also have you checked to see if the CMS is suddenly shutting off on your PC when your in DAZ Studio and your Files stop working?

    From what you have posted one of your DAZ Studio Paths should be this...
    C:\Users\username\Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio4\content
  • edited November 2013

    I assume you mean under the "Content library" in the preferences? I can't seem to get the path info there. I did notice that I have a another folder called "Studio" as opposed to the Studio4 with a path to some older materials that look like this. C:\Users\username\Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\My Library\Presets\Materials.

    Oh, and no CMS in the Taskmanager. Wierd.

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  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited November 2013

    If you are Saving your Presets to C:\Users\username\Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio4\content\materials and this path...
    C:\Users\username\Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio4\content is not listed. Only the CMS is listing them for load from the DATA files saved into the DataBase at Save as, when the CMS stops running your files will not list any longer as they can not be found in DAZ Studio. May I see this please? From your system...

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  • edited December 1969

    I cant run the CDM. It flashes a little black screen and then disappears. Plus there are two short cuts with slightly different paths in the start menu. Guess that is correct?

    C:\Windows\system32\net.exe start DAZContentManagementService
    C:\Windows\system32\net.exe stop DAZContentManagementService

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Your CMS is being shut down by your system. Most of the time it is the Anti Virus software that causes that. You will need to set the CMS as an allowed process on your PC. Check both the AV you use and the System OS. Either can shut off the CMS.

  • edited December 1969

    Interesting. That appeared to fix the problem! Now i have my presets back! I hope for good this time! I had to allow the "net.exe." inthe firewall as you suggested. We'll see if it sticks. I still don't see a CMS in the task manager though. What does the application name look like in the taskmanager? Anyway, if this sticks, thanks a bunch Jaderail! Big time.

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    You can expand the columns in Task manager as I've done here....

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