OT - can anybody ID “satellites”? Confirmed not a satellite :-) ty all
patience55
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I figure this must be something like that. Not a new item ... but why in the world it shines bright like a star when it obviously isn't ... rotates round and round ... and while it appears steady on, it isn't. It bounces about making still photography something of a challenge. But then I have a movie camera that can take pictures in the dark lol ... so grabbed a couple stills off the movie clips.
It has obvious 'dark things' top and bottom and most definitely rotates on the level round and round but not super fast. Zigs and zags abit but more like it's trying to stay on course and something keeps blowing it off some.
Has a green glow to it according to 2 cameras.
In the eastern sky.
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My husband is a hobby astronomer for over 30 years but he has no clue.
There is a comet at the moment, but it doesn't act or looks like this...
Perhaps one of those paper laterns people lit in celebration?
Nope. Been too far out for way too long to be anything like that. Too large to be a star [at least any of the regular ones].
In the video the dark protrusions on the bottom appear to be at least 3 in number and a bit longer than the protrusions on the top.
It either has the remarkable ability to stay about the same position in orbit for months ... or it's coming towards the earth from a greater distance [based on the fact it's size has been growing larger over the months].
There are some large balloons being sent up by Google to be used as an alternative to satellites.
http://www.google.com/loon/
Ph I missed the part where you said you have been seeing them several months ><<br /> The Google balloons sounds plausible indeed perhaps weather balloons, but they don't last that long.
That's interesting ... at least they gave it a good name lol ... Loon Project!
This is nowhere near New Zealand though ...
edit: Found pictures for the Loon Project, nope.
Unfortunately, it's rather hard to id from the pictures, what with the glare, atmospheric distortions, camera shaking, focuing issues, etc...it could be just a piece of space junk or it could be a Pan-Galactic Invasion Force scout ship (or anything in between ;-) )
I suspect your best bet would be to get some astronomy software, something like Starry Night (ranges about $50-250...about the same as what we pay for Poser, Carrara, etc) or Celestial Motherload (free, but harder to search for satelites, which is what you're needing). Also, you'll probably want to get a sextant & a compas, just so you can direct the software to focus tighter in the area you're interested in.
Or you could send your photos and observations to the military and wait 50 years for a reply.
However, I suspect that it is some sort of balloon project. If it were anything really unusual it would have been reported and at least obsessively conjectured about by the loonys who gravitate to those sorts of things.
Having perpetrated my own UFO hoax when I was 12 years old I know how easy it is to get adults to believe anything they want to believe.
And having observed a hundred engineering college students being mesmerized by bright flashing moving lights in the sky one warm Florida evening, sure that it was a UFO scanning the Space Center I know how easily adolescents can jump to conclusions. A few years later I was working at the Space Center and was connected to a long running project where a plane flew around at night and used a bright flash to test photography search techniques in case a space capsule or satellite landed where it shouldn't.
And at the same college when I was young and not so wise I was involved with students who built hot air dirigibles using a trough of flaming Sterno, and let them float away at night producing a very believable UFO. So much so that one night when it drifted over the airport and was reported by the radio station and the police got involved, the project abruptly terminated! 8-O Only later did we actually think about the possible fire hazard we were tempting as it flew over dried out swamp areas.
Back in the early days of satellites, there was a satellite named "Echo" that was nothing more than a very large silver balloon inflated in space easily visible from the ground.
Where are you? Are you outside when you see it? (i.e. are you looking through a window or other reflecting/refracting surface?) Are you using a telescope or telescopic lens? If so, at what power? What direction are you looking? How high in the sky? Is it always in the same place? At what times? Are you sure it's not a light on a far distant radio tower? A satellite that appears to stay in one place in the sky is about 25,000 miles away. It would have to be awfully big for you to see any actual shape even with a good telescope. http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/970408d.html
Most visible satellites are only about 100 to 200 miles away. Big difference! Therefore I think it's more likely to be a balloon or an Earth bound light or reflection. Perhaps a secret one.
Is a local auto dealer having a super sale and possibly having an advertising balloon dancing above his circus grounds?
Then again it could be something as simple as the planets Venus or Jupiter seen through a lens or digital camera that isn't perfect and introduces the black nodule artifacts that aren't really there. Digital cameras are notorious for introducing artifacts especially in low light conditions. The JPG compression algorithm and the noise reduction algorithms can conspire to introduce all sorts of gremlins especially on objects that are defined by only a few pixels.
Who knows. Maybe the Mayans miscalculated and the calendar ends this coming December instead of last December.
Have you checked the NASA site to see if the ISS makes a pass over your geographical area?
Do you have an observatory or university with a telescope nearby? If you email with the pics and your co-ordinates, they might be able to tell you what you are looking at.
I don't know how many times since 9/11 the LEO's end up with calls from residents who report "strange light formations" in the sky. The "strange light formations" are Air Guard fighters on routine patrols refueling from their airborne tankers in the less crowded airspace over the Hudson north of the city.
Those are not satellites... Not quite UFOs either... they are more like remote drone cameras... they are used to record one of the longest running reality shows in galactic history.
"Humans Do The Stupidest Things" (actually "Pregitch Nootortz" in Galactic Common) has been on the air since the late 1820s.
Aside from a few times when due to "technical difficulties" where a camera has literally gone down... Roswell or Tunguska for example, the show has aired 62 hours a day, 9 days a week for the past 189 earth years... In fact only "My Little Brain Slug" at 6,021 earth years and "Doctor Who" (the original documentary version) which has been on HV for 1,600 earth years ( yesterday was the anniversary), even come close...
Ever wonder why "UFOs" seem to take off when being filmed... it kills the spontaneity... sorta like when you see people waving to the camera in the background during a live news report.
Hope that clears it up... incidentally if you have "Dish Network's Intergalactic Basic" package, you can watch Pregitch Nootortz on SHN (Stupid Humans Network) on channel 3,769,657.
On a side note... BBCG (Bragorian Broadcast Corporation Galactic) will be airing new Doctor Who episodes in December... I hear they will debuting the new ( twelve hundred fifty third ) doctor.
There is an iPhone - iPad app called SkyView (I think). When you point it at the sky, it super imposes the names of planets, stars, galaxies, satellites, etc over the image. I used it to find the ISS when it flew over. Also shows orbits.
ncamp
I used to hoax UFOs using a certain glow in the dark birth control method and a tank of helium. I got the idea from all the UFO reports I heard as a kid in the 70s. I can still hear Jimmy Carter saying "it was a long glowing cigar shaped object..." Later in high school I got thinking, hey I know something cigar shaped that glows in the dark....
I used to hoax UFOs using a certain glow in the dark birth control method and a tank of helium. I got the idea from all the UFO reports I heard as a kid in the 70s. I can still hear Jimmy Carter saying "it was a long glowing cigar shaped object..." Later in high school I got thinking, hey I know something cigar shaped that glows in the dark....
That's one way of sending those pesky aliens who are always spying on us protection. Sorry, couldn't resist.
This is how a lot of alien invasion movies start... especially:
"or it's coming towards the earth from a greater distance [based on the fact it's size has been growing larger over the months]."
Thats the part which nails it.
This is how a lot of alien invasion movies start... especially:
"or it's coming towards the earth from a greater distance [based on the fact it's size has been growing larger over the months]."
Thats the part which nails it.
I know ... that's part of why I've been watching the darn thing ... sometime back people elsewhere were photographing some extra lights or whatever around and about the sun ... it did occur that that would be a great place to hide an invasion force. Simple hunting technique, birds use it all the time.
However not to panic anybody ... according to the leader of the negative attacking forces, they can't invade Earth until I go up.
I watched the clips over and over ... I can't get something I can barely see in the action to also be in a still ... I think it has some antennae type thingies ... at least 2 on the top and 2 on the bottom.
Yeah, I thought of sending the clip to the authorities, or the mayor, or the local astronomy club ... but the club doesn't answer emails [and at that time it was such a basic simple question so ? is going on with them] ... but then I thought, the people in this forum collectively know a lot more about all kinds of things, let's ask here :-)
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I don't think that's glare so much as glow. Some fun parts make it look like a spinning top, an ace of spades ...
Hand held Sony camera ... however I was braced somewhat to negate as much hand shake as possible. There is some while zooming and the extreme zooms on this camera are never super sharp. However as the other items in the photo are not blurred by motion ... so to note as I did while filming it ... it is moving itself.
Anyway ... here are a few more images I've snapped out of the vid.
The one with the lights upped ... that was done in an image editor.
Nope.
Nope. Not Venus, etc. Artifacts ... well if we ever see it again and can get better pics we'll know more.
I don't have an iPhone/iPad but that sounds like a kool device. Thanks for the info.
Or you could send your photos and observations to the military and wait 50 years for a reply.
... edit ...
hehehe ... well why not. Told 'em that I have a few hundred people waiting for a reply so hopefully we don't have to wait quite that long. But to be aware that yes there really is what the average citizen refers to as 'cover-up' concerning anything possibly "alien" that actively goes on as a joint operation between nations. So keep breathing.
Have you checked out this website: http://www.n2yo.com/
I knew I had bookmarked it, but couldn't figure out which folder I put it in.
its swamp gas illuminated by venus
The Canadian Military is testing the resurrected Avro Arrow. ;-)
Missed that one, thanks.
...I heard it was the Y-2. ;-)
Oh, don't tease an old aircraft lover like that.
(Yes, you may parse that phrase either way...)
You're in Bytown? Small world.
... edit ...
Hasn't been called that for quite awhile lol ... remember the logs?
Big Meteors!!!!
One landed last night :-)
Unfortunately, I doubt you'll get much better even if you hook your camera up to a backyard telescope. Even the Kech(sp?) telescope in Hawaii has to use sophisticated scanners to compensate for atmospheric distortions. My experience with backyard telescopes were rather disappointing. Jupiter and Saturn were just fuzzy blobs with very little detail. Jupiter has a few fuzzy bands & I could tell there were rings about Saturn, but that was about it. But if I tried to enter the photos into a court of law, the defense lawyer would easily be able to argue that they could've been Venus and a disk-shaped UFO for all the detail you could see--the planets would get off on a technicality ;)
You've already ID'd the best effect that you can get: the periodic variations to the total light coming from it that probably indicates that the object, or some part of it, is rotating.
Unfortunately, I doubt you'll get much better even if you hook your camera up to a backyard telescope. Even the Kech(sp?) telescope in Hawaii has to use sophisticated scanners to compensate for atmospheric distortions. My experience with backyard telescopes were rather disappointing. Jupiter and Saturn were just fuzzy blobs with very little detail. Jupiter has a few fuzzy bands & I could tell there were rings about Saturn, but that was about it. But if I tried to enter the photos into a court of law, the defense lawyer would easily be able to argue that they could've been Venus and a disk-shaped UFO for all the detail you could see--the planets would get off on a technicality ;)
You've already ID'd the best effect that you can get: the periodic variations to the total light coming from it that probably indicates that the object, or some part of it, is rotating.
Defns perhaps. I'm thinking of glow in that it is producing its own light even if it's burning up on entry. Granted its glow could be glaring.
However I think of glare as in "reflective" glare and there wasn't any source of light around to make that happen at that distance. It did look like the wind was blowing it but it came coming back to its original course. Which IMHO is strange. Sadly whatever it is/was, didn't land in the front yard for me to get detailed images with a superior camera for taking stills.
The video camera that took the images displayed, has a "take pictures in the dark" option which I was using.
We're having some weather for awhile, aka blizzard, so have to wait for a better time to check the sky again ;-)
They're making relatively inexpensive "deep space" telescopes these days. Frustrating as anything to get a camera shot through them though. The fun part then is to take, for example those fuzzy photos of Jupiter, etc. into an image editor and turn up the light ... it's amazing how many stars are also picked up ... use head though, not to turn it up so much as to simply create "noise". [and the sharpen filter might help some with fuzzy Jupiter]. What I need though is a mountain! Nice high place that doesn't shake everytime a bus goes by lol ...
Duck.....
I don't know what you're seeing, but I suspect it's one of the major planets - Jupiter or Saturn ?. All the effects you're seeing are most likely either atmospheric effects, or t something generated within the camera itself. Today's consumer digital camera's just aren't designed to take astronomical photos ( or vids) without the aid of some extra powerful optics. If you're interested, .I'd look up one of the local astronomy clubs and see if you could go to one of their viewing nights and check things out with a real astronomical telescope
Oh please, I know a planet when I see one. That ain't no planet! They are in the "heavens" WAAAAAYYYY out beyond the moon and all that okay. Not blowing about in the upper atmosphere.