Help with correct folder structure for Daz and poser pro 2014 access
Rowlando
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Please help if you can:
My folder structure is as follows
In my Documents I have teh DAZ3D folder and with in it I have a folder called Content ( This is the one my poser accesses and it contains Genisis 2 figure) I also have the folder called Content ( This is the folder Daz accesses and it has the genisis essentials stuff inc genisis 1)
My Problem
Poser cannot access to load Genisis 1 figure or any other figure except for Genisis 2.
Can someone tell me if my folder structure is correct, DSON is installed in my poser directory and works fine, it simply dose not find anything outside of the Content folder. I cannot open anything except what is in the Content folder using DSON.
My Daz3d dose not open Genisis 2 figures.
I think I have something the wrong way round so to speak. Any help please Cheers Rowlando
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Are you saying there's a folder called Content inside Documents\DAZ 3, and another one just in Documents? You need to combine them (or else have DS and Poser looking at both of them).
I have one folder in my documents called Daz3D it contains both the Content and Studio folders.
Is this correct?
If so.
Where should the Genisis 1 and 2 figures be located so Poser and Daz3d can access?
Cheers
You probably want to combine them -- Documents\DAZ 3D\Studio\Content was the default for DS3, but you can use either. The important thing is that whichever one you use is listed in DS and Poser, and the Data and Runtime folders are directly underneath it.
Hi Thanks
Can you give me an image as to how it should look, or a listing?
Content and Studio folders are separate within the Daz3d folder.
Cheers
You should have ONE 'main' folder...it can be named anything you want...but Daz3d is a 'good' choice. Within that folder you should have ONE Content (or My Library...not both, unless you point DS to both of them. And yes, for those 'purists' out there...they don't actually need to be named Content/My Library, either...but DS does need to know WHAT they are named). Inside the Content/My Library folder should be ONE Runtime folder...there should be NO other Content/Runtime/etc inside of the main one...
Thanks Addict
It seems I have two runtimes one in Content and one in Studio. I have Daz 4.5 installed, it seems to only read the studio folder and my Poser Pro only reads the Content folder.
I cannot get Poser to read the Studio folder.
It seems you are saying I need to merge everything into ONE folder lets say I call it Daz3D/Content/Runtime/Liraries etc
So all files for use in both Daz 4.5 and Poser Pro are located together and then have both these programs use this one runtime?
Before I merge them I want to make sure I am correct.
It seems the Daz installers such as the Genisis starter essentials created two folders within my Daz3d folder A content and A Studio folder.
I had thought that this was correct one for Daz4.5 to access the folder called Studio and one for Poser to access folder called content??
Your saying this is not needed, and to merge everything. If I do this will the Daz installers mess up the process every time I use them?
My problem was poser not being able to access the studio folder and read its files and Daz 4.5 not being able to access the Content folder. I was trying to get the DSON for Poser to access the studio folder but this seems impossible.
I am trying to clear up the muddy waters here in my files, thanks so much for your help Cheers Rowlando
Or you can point each program to read the other's content...which is probably better to do than merge the Poser/DS folders. It's pretty easy in DS, not sure how to do it in your version of Poser, but should be pretty easy, there, too.
As to the installers...there's several different generation installers, some of which didn't play well with 'modern' operating systems, which is why all the store content was transitioned over to zip files. But the default location for manual installs and the one for the Download Install Manager are not the same...hence, the two content folders..
Merging both of those would probably be best. And if you are using the DIM, most often that would be the one to keep...of course you could go the other way and then set the DIM to use that one...but that seems like an unnecessary step to me.
I am merging all the files and I hope Poser will be able to access both Gen 1 and 2 figures lets see how I go
cheers
Poser does not look for the folder labeled Content.
Even though Poser no longer requires the rigid runtilme folder structure that was required for P7 and below, it still tends to default to it.
It also still tends to default to absolute that paths.
Basically it's runtime>libraries>and the various sub folders of figures, head/expression, hand, pose, camera, hair, props, materials, lights. The Python and Textures folders are inside the runtime.
Since P8, there is no correct structure so long as you have the correct paths. P7 and below do require the more rigid structure even when using external runtomes.
DS can parse most Poser files. It can't parse dynamic hair or cloth simulations. Cameras and lights don't really translate and materials need tweaking.
If you map the runtime folder to DS Content manager, you should be ok. If you are using Poser, you need the DSON importer and install both the DSON files and the Poser Companion files to a separate runtime that can be written to.
Thanks for the help
I am running PoserPro 2014 I have the DSON files installed properly, and PP opens Gen 2 fine. The DSON importer dose not offer me any other folder to import other than a folder Called Content.
I have merged everything into my documents/Daz3d/Content as per the attached image just want to know how to get PP DSON to open the Gen 1 figures.
Cheers Rowlando
You still have a bunch of folders under Runtime that should be under Content alongside Runtime:
aniBlocks
Animals
DAZ Studio Tutorials
Hair
Light Presets
Presets
Scripts
Shader Presets
Uninstallers
This won't make a difference to Poser, but those folders won't be visible in DS.
I'm also suspicious of the DSON folder under Runtime, but since I don't have a version of Poser that can use it I can't confirm that.
This is an example of what a My Library folder system should look like. I am not familiar with Poser, so can't help with that, but this will let you know what folders should be where in a general view. The props and animals and such folders, those are not runtime folders from Poser, those are Daz specific folders, so do not take them out of the runtime folder and move them to the My Library folder.
To expand on the above, here's inside the Runtime folder (notice how only auto_adapted is in the DSON folder).
I have moved everything into the right folders I think see image please.
I am able to open most things in Daz 4.6 now ie GEn 1 and 2 figures.
I am not able to open everything in PP2012 though.
Any sugestions please, cheers Rowlando
It looks right, from what I can tell. Poser can't natively open any Genesis content. You'll need to start installing the PoserCF files for that, and not everything has them.
I am trying to open Gen 1 in PP2014 but its not finding it as yet? The figure it opens is genisis 2 and some cloths.
PP2014 is not opening any other figure such as basic female or male, they open but are invisable.
Cheers
Do you have both Genesis Starter Essentials and Genesis Starter Essentials PoserCF installed?
Is that library also mapped in PP2014?
yes, all I have done is put everything in one folder rather than having two folders one for Daz and one for poser as it was, not sure what you mean about mapped for poser.
Cheers
Do you have your Daz library also mapped as a Poser library in Poser?
I think what you mean is dose my Daz and poser use the same folder ( Yes ) its in my documents folder called Daz3d/Content and everything is in there.
I think thats what you mean by mapped yes?
cheers
Mapping is the process of adding a folder to Poser/DS as a library.
If it is, then in Poser you should find Genesis in Library > Daz People. Be sure to have the figures icon selected (the far left one that's yellow in my screenshot).
Ok they are mapped for both programs but Poser cannot see gen 1 figure for some reason, in poser the file reads as Daz People and Gen 1 is not there but Gen 2 is.
Not sure why it is not in the same folder.
In my documents folder it is listed as Genisis Base.
Cheers
I think I may need to reinstall but it seems Odd that files cannot be found if they are in the proper places.
I will not be online for a few hours now, thanks for your help
Rowlando
If you used DIM to install, you can right click Genesis Starter Essentials PoserCF and choose Installed To to see where it went.
I used the genisis self install file not sure it that is DIM or not
Do you mean you manually extracted the files from the zips? Can you check the exact path to genesis.dsf (using your operating system, not what's seen inside DS or Poser)?
I did manually install, because the DIM caused so much frustration, I think I can see the problem I have attached a pic please tell me if I am correct.
I expanded the folder tree to see where genisis 1 and 2 are installed Gen 2 is under DSON in the Runtime and Gen 1 is outside this.
Not sure how to fix it other than move gen 1 with gen 2 but what do I move so poser can read it, I think Daz4.6 will read where the gen 2 is under runtime/DSON so I could be OK.
Cheers and thanks for all the help so far.
No, the Data folder must be OUTSIDE of Runtime, neither DS not Poser will be able to find it there.
There is two data folders one outside under content and one inside of the runtime, are you saying I should merge the runtime folder with the one under the content folder?
I and get rid of the runtime one altogether?
Cheers
The Data file out side of the runtime has both Gen 1 and 2 files in it, so shouldent Daz and poser be able to open both?