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Victoria 4.2 Shapes++ question

cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
edited April 2019 in The Commons

Hi,

can someone tell me how huge the programm Victoria 4.2 Morphs++ is (GB)?

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited December 1969

    Victoria 4.2 Morphs++ 22.70 MB

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,583
    edited December 1969

    About 70MB unpacked.

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited December 1969

    fixmypcmike said:
    About 70MB unpacked.

    well then this is mysterious, have a look at the image (screenshot of installed programs):

    screenshot_v4.2_prg_.jpg
    1197 x 114 - 47K
  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,583
    edited December 1969

    cosmo71 said:
    fixmypcmike said:
    About 70MB unpacked.

    well then this is mysterious, have a look at the image (screenshot of installed programs):

    weird, mine is 68.7MB, not 68.7GB

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited December 1969

    fixmypcmike said:
    cosmo71 said:
    fixmypcmike said:
    About 70MB unpacked.

    well then this is mysterious, have a look at the image (screenshot of installed programs):

    weird, mine is 68.7MB, not 68.7GB

    do you have any idea?

  • icprncssicprncss Posts: 3,694
    edited December 1969

    My external V4 runtime lists the morphs pack at just under 69 megs installed. These are the poser files. According to my product library the Poser CF's, and Power loader files are both under 1 meg each.

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited December 1969

    icprncss said:
    My external V4 runtime lists the morphs pack at just under 69 megs installed. These are the poser files. According to my product library the Poser CF's, and Power loader files are both under 1 meg each.

    well thats is what was shown me when I was looking at the installed programs under windows. 68GB so where the hell are the GB coming from?

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Where did you get that Screen shot from is my question. I can not find anything close to it on my system.

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited December 1969

    And I wonder why my one hd is such as full while my content just has 110GB (with saved scenes) and this hd is about 250GB, overall I have 500GB but this one has just 250GB - 110GB and some view GBs for other stuff has to be around 100 GB left free and not just around 30GBs

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited December 1969

    Jaderail said:
    Where did you get that Screen shot from is my question. I can not find anything close to it on my system.

    sytsem -> programs -> uninstall
    (don`t know if it is the right path in english)

    in german it is:

    Systemsteuerung -> Programme -> Programme und Funktionen

  • jestmartjestmart Posts: 4,449
    edited December 1969

    Your image shows the old .exe installers, they didn't compress as much as the new zips and about 5 to 6 GB is just for the installer code. I thought you where using DIM now.

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited December 1969

    jestmart said:
    Your image shows the old .exe installers, they didn't compress as much as the new zips and about 5 to 6 GB is just for the installer code. I thought you where using DIM now.

    all the old content back from ds3 is still under studio 3 only the new stuff is downloaded with the dim.

    If this are the old exe installers, can I delte them after I have saved them on an external HD? Means my v4.2 don`t need them, work with them or something else, these are just the installer files, right?

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,791
    edited December 1969

    The list in Add/Remove Programmes has never been accurate for DAZ content - it seems to show the cumulative size, or in some other way to generate a misleadingly large figure - I seem to recall you have repeatedly reinstalled the morphs whie trying to fix the issues with your Dixie character, which may account for the huge value.

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited December 1969

    Richard Haseltine said:
    The list in Add/Remove Programmes has never been accurate for DAZ content - it seems to show the cumulative size, or in some other way to generate a misleadingly large figure - I seem to recall you have repeatedly reinstalled the morphs whie trying to fix the issues with your Dixie character, which may account for the huge value.

    hmm, no, the date shows 2010, the year I have moved from my old laptop to my new one :) and at that time I had ds3 and everything was fine.

    But the question is, can I delete these files after saving them on an external HD, as someone mentioned, these are just the installers, so I guess there is no need to let them on my internal HD, right?

  • jestmartjestmart Posts: 4,449
    edited December 1969

    I was wrong about them being the installers as I was going only by the image and missed your post about their folder location. They appear to be the uninstallers created when you installed from the old .exe installers.

  • SlimerJSpudSlimerJSpud Posts: 1,453
    edited December 1969

    Those numbers are totally inaccurate. I would ignore them completely. Windows Control Panel is confused. If you find the actual files, they will be as described. If you go to Product Library on the website, you will get more reasonable numbers. The actual installers could be backed up to DVDR or USB, but if they are in your account, and remain active for download, then the DAZ website is your offsite backup. The only issue you might run into is if something gets corrupted after installing some add-on and you need to reinstall the morphs++. Sometimes all you need is to re-run that mysterious .bat file.

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited December 1969

    Once again the same question, if I delete this 68GB Victorisa 4.2 morphs++ from my HD will morphs++ work or will it not work. Do I need this for v4 or not. I have installed v4.2 in 2010 and since then I work with v4.2 and morphs++, so do I need this file or not?

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited December 1969

    jestmart said:
    I was wrong about them being the installers as I was going only by the image and missed your post about their folder location. They appear to be the uninstallers created when you installed from the old .exe installers.

    Do I need these files or do I need them not for working with my installed v4.2 and morphs++, that is the question. Can I delete them to have more space on my HD after saving them to an erxternal HD.

    These files also were the reason why I have asked a while ago what to back up (installed stuff at the time of DS3) and the answer was:

    users -> my name -> documents -> Daz 3D -> studio3

    (okay today at the times of DS4 I have to backup the complete Daz 3D) and also the

    users -> public -> documents -> My Daz3D Library

    but not programs

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,791
    edited December 1969

    You don't have 68GB of files - the information being given by Add/Remove Programmes is simply wrong.

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited January 2014

    Richard Haseltine said:
    You don't have 68GB of files - the information being given by Add/Remove Programmes is simply wrong.

    and that your are sure? because it would be an answer why this hd is nearly full as written before what can`t be because there isn`t much more on this hd besides my installed content (that is about 110 GB with saved scenes) the only big files on this HD are these shown in the image. This HD is about 250GB 110 GB installed content, some view GBs for other stuff should be around 150GB but this HD has only 25 GB free space and I think it is because of these files shown in the image

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  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited December 1969

    the other thing is, where are the pathes of these files, they just appear at add/remove programs and until now I haven`t found them on my HD

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited December 1969

    For what ever reason Richard but these files are so huge as shown.

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited January 2014

    so folks, morphs++ uninstalled and reinstalled again and the result is a real surprise look at the image 1 and at image 2 maybe you can see the difference:

    screenshot_v4.2_prg_2_.jpg
    917 x 116 - 41K
    screenshot_v4.2_prg_.jpg
    1197 x 114 - 47K
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  • SlimerJSpudSlimerJSpud Posts: 1,453
    edited December 1969

    Please stop looking at Add/Remove Programs. It's giving the wrong size information, and that's the wrong place to remove an installer file. You only want to use Add/Remove Programs if you really want to uninstall the feature from your content. You probably do not want to uninstall any features, so just close Control Panel and search for the installer files themselves. You're looking in the wrong place.

    If you want to delete unneeded installer programs, you can use Windows Search to find them. Unfortunately, some of the file names have changed on older products since the DIM came out. Are you using the DIM to install content, or were these the old Bitrock installer programs? Did you download them using your browser? If so, look at where your browser is set to download files to. Probably "Downloads". Depending on your Windows version, this could be in several places.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,791
    edited December 1969

    That's the estimated file size for the items installed by that "programme", and as I (and others) have said it's wrong. I don't know if it's an issue with the Bitrock installers or if it's something that would affect any entry with a similar pattern of installations but it is a known issue with the Control Panel applet. As for the disk space, have you emptied the recycle bin? Have you tried using something like treesize to spot the space-hogs?

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited December 1969

    Richard Haseltine said:
    That's the estimated file size for the items installed by that "programme", and as I (and others) have said it's wrong. I don't know if it's an issue with the Bitrock installers or if it's something that would affect any entry with a similar pattern of installations but it is a known issue with the Control Panel applet. As for the disk space, have you emptied the recycle bin? Have you tried using something like treesize to spot the space-hogs?

    what a bin? where is it?

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,791
    edited January 2014

    The Recycle bin is the trash can. You can see how much it's using by right-clicking on the drive in the Computer window, selecting Properties, then clicking Disc Cleanup - you will get a note for the Recycle Bin's size, as well as other possible system uses of the drive. Of course if you empty the recycle bin you will not be able to recover any mistaken deletions from it.

    DiskCleanup.JPG
    854 x 897 - 141K
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  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited December 1969

    Richard Haseltine said:
    The Recycle bin is the trash can. You can see how much it's using by right-clicking on the drive in the Computer window, selecting Properties, then clicking Disc Cleanup - you will get a note for the Recycle Bin's size, as well as other possible system uses of the drive. Of course if you empty the recycle bin you will not be able to recover any mistaken deletions from it.

    trash can sure, there was nothing in it because I allways empty that but I run the disc clean up lets wait and see :)

  • cosmo71cosmo71 Posts: 3,609
    edited December 1969

    okay that gave me 12GB but as written this drive has 250GB right? so content is about 110-120 GB if I remember well from my latest back up, so some GB for other stuff like system and other folders for images around 10GB makes 120GB plus around 10GBs for Programms makes 130GB so another 5GBs for downloaded files that I haven`t saved external so far makes around 135 -145GB, windows I guess is included in the programms so there is only one file that lead to the space that is taken on this drive and that is the size of this file with the 68GB shown in the image I get the space that is taken on that drive.

  • DaremoK3DaremoK3 Posts: 798
    edited December 1969

    I was going to post yesterday, but I thought you had the issue settled with all the fine help you have already been given.

    cosmo, I can verify this is a Windows OS issue as it has also afflicted my PC.

    Do you have Windows 7 x64, by chance?

    If not, no matter, but this is where the errors cropped up for me, and ONLY in the Unistall/Repair module where you are seeing yours.

    I have a one terabyte drive, and several programs and subsequent content installed were reported even far beyond what your drive has reported. In the hundreds of gigabytes for the installed content. Your 68.7 GB (really 68.7 MB) is reported on my W7 system as 687.0 GB.

    Now, compound that with several different installs, along with several content collections. What Windows Unistall module is reporting is physically impossible for the size drive I have installed. It adds up to a few TB over the 1TB of drive space available, and the actual drive information (where Richard showed you to look) actually shows the correct drive space sizes with only around 400 GB of used space, and plenty of free space to spare.

    Rest assured, your content is not installing at an insurmountable state. It is only a Windows error reporting correct disk size usage per application in the unistall/repair module.

    Hope this helps...

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