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Dental Plan2 for Genesis2\M\F (Commercial)

Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
edited January 2014 in Daz PA Commercial Products

Hi guys. This will be available next month. This product has been completely restructured and contains new Jaw morphs, as well as HD details and all new individual tooth control options. On the main visible teeth you can now move each one back and forth, side to side and adjust the tooth angle. Also contains a whole host of new refinements as well as a new teeth shader. Also contains some basic tongue morphs to help with the look. In total there are now over 100 morphs, nearly double the amount on the Genesis1 version. Will get some pics up soon:)

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  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 5,020
    edited January 2014

    AWESOME! Ive been lookin forward to this, cant wait :) I like the thought of moving/angling individual teeth, and I can imagine allot could be achieved with HD teeth morphs

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  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited January 2014

    Thanks Spyro:) Here is a quick example showing the new Jaw morphs that enables over and underbite, as well as the new individual teeth control morphs. So you can go subtle or extreme:) Busy refining the textures and will post pics of those as well as more examples when all is finalized.

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,211
    edited December 1969

    kissable :vampire:

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited January 2014

    Here is the morph list:

    01 Lower LWisdom
    01 Upper LWisdom
    02 Lower LSecondMolar
    02 Upper LSecondMolar
    03 Lower LFirstMolar
    03 Upper LFirstMolar
    04 Lower LSecondPreMolar
    04 Upper LSecondPreMolar
    05 Lower LFirstPreMolar
    05 Upper LFirstPreMolar
    06 Lower LCanine Angle
    06 Lower LCanine FrontBack
    06 Lower LCanine LeftRight
    06 Lower LCanine
    06 Upper LCanine Angle
    06 Upper LCanine FrontBack
    06 Upper LCanine LeftRight
    06 Upper LCanine
    07 Lower LLateral Incisor Angle
    07 Lower LLateral Incisor FrontBack
    07 Lower LLateral Incisor LeftRight
    07 Lower LLateral Incisor
    07 Upper LLateral Incisor Angle
    07 Upper LLateral Incisor FrontBack
    07 Upper LLateral Incisor LeftRight
    07 Upper LLateral Incisor
    08 Lower LCentral Incisor Angle
    08 Lower LCentral Incisor Frontback
    08 Lower LCentral Incisor LeftRight
    08 Lower LCentral Incisor
    08 Upper LCentral Incisor Angle
    08 Upper LCentral Incisor Frontback
    08 Upper LCentral Incisor LeftRight
    08 Upper LCentral Incisor
    09 Lower RCentral Incisor Angle
    09 Lower RCentral Incisor Frontback
    09 Lower RCentral Incisor LeftRight
    09 Lower RCentral Incisor
    09 Upper RCentral Incisor Angle
    09 Upper RCentral Incisor Frontback
    09 Upper RCentral Incisor LeftRight
    09 Upper RCentral Incisor
    10 Lower RLateral Incisor Angle
    10 Lower RLateral Incisor FrontBack
    10 Lower RLateral Incisor LeftRight
    10 Lower RLateral Incisor
    10 Upper RLateral Incisor Angle
    10 Upper RLateral Incisor FrontBack
    10 Upper RLateral Incisor LeftRight
    10 Upper RLateral Incisor
    11 Lower RCanine Angle
    11 Lower RCanine FrontBack
    11 Lower RCanine LeftRight
    11 Lower RCanine
    11 Upper RCanine Angle
    11 Upper RCanine FrontBack
    11 Upper RCanine LeftRight
    11 Upper RCanine
    12 Lower RFirstPreMolar
    12 Upper RFirstPreMolar
    13 Lower RSecondPreMolar
    13 Upper RSecondPreMolar
    14 Lower RFirstMolar
    14 Upper RFirstMolar
    15 Lower RSecondMolar
    15 Upper RSecondMolar
    16 Lower RWisdom
    16 Upper RWisdom
    Gum Thickness Lower
    Gum Thickness Upper
    Gums Soft Lower
    Gums Soft Upper
    HD Gums
    HD Teeth
    HD Tongue
    Hide Teeth Lower
    Hide Teeth Upper
    InGums Lower Teeth
    InGums Upper Teeth
    Jaw Front Lower Size
    Jaw Front Lower
    Jaw Front Upper Size
    Jaw Front Upper
    Pinch Inwards
    Pinch Outwards
    Sharp Canines Lower
    Sharp Canines Upper
    Sharp Central Incisors Lower
    Sharp Central Incisors Upper
    Sharp Lateral Incisors Lower
    Sharp Lateral Incisors Upper
    Sharpness Lower
    Sharpness Upper
    Teeth Angle
    Teeth Front Back Lower
    Teeth Front Back Upper
    Teeth Length Lower
    Teeth Length Upper
    Teeth Size Lower
    Teeth Size Upper
    Teeth UpDown Lower
    Teeth UpDown Upper
    Teeth Width Lower
    Teeth Width Upper
    Thin Teeth Lower
    Thin Teeth Upper
    Tongue FrontBack
    Tongue Lengthen.
    Tongue UpDown
    Tongue Width
    Upper Gap

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  • TjebTjeb Posts: 507
    edited January 2014

    So, my girlfriend can smile again in public?

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  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited December 1969

    Lol...That was unexpected.

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited January 2014

    Here are more examples of the Jaw morphs dialled at different strengths. Essentially you can control the upper and lower morphs to your liking and can get some nice or crazy looks depending on what you are going for.

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  • SickleYieldSickleYield Posts: 7,635
    edited December 1969

    My hero. :-) These are going right in the cart, I tell you what. I've really been enjoying the new Aging morphs.

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited December 1969

    Thanks Sickle:) Glad you are enjoying them:)

  • ErdehelErdehel Posts: 386
    edited December 1969

    This is going straight in my cart when it will be available. Very good job!.

  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 5,020
    edited December 1969

    Zev0 said:
    Here are more examples of the Jaw morphs dialled at different strengths. Essentially you can control the upper and lower morphs to your liking and can get some nice or crazy looks depending on what you are going for.

    Cool! Jaw morphs will be quite useful, I did notice it was an area that needed some more adjustment morphs, especially when creating different ethnicities, likewise extremes can easily be achieved by the looks too HAHA!

  • DraagonStormDraagonStorm Posts: 748
    edited February 2014

    And to be released on same day...

    Dental Bling

    Created with Dental Plan2 in mind. You will be able to bling each tooth with solid gold or silver and designs in gold or silver for the front 6 upper and lower teeth.

    One must occasionally get down with one's bad self. :)

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  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 5,020
    edited December 1969

    LOL! Wow, thats such an awesome idea, another must buy haha, great work! :)

  • XenomorphineXenomorphine Posts: 2,421
    edited December 1969

    Wow - on both products!

    That dental plan is a definite improvement on Genesis 1's... The mention of tongue morphs makes me wonder, would it be possible to do a specialist tongue morph set? As in completely different shapes? Would really bolster the creature creator pack creations, if we can do split tongues, flat tongues, massively extendable tongues, etcetera. Wouldn't be averse to a selection of different Giger-like mouths geo-grafted for the end of them, either. :)

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited February 2014

    Doing a specialized tongue morph set is entirely possible:) This set however only contains basic extended functions of the tongue to assist with the placement when doing dental morphs since that is primarily the products focus.

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  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited February 2014

    Here are some promos. I also added a few tooth rotation morphs for the most visible teeth (mainly the ones in front) so you can twist them as well.

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  • XenomorphineXenomorphine Posts: 2,421
    edited February 2014

    Would be very interested if a tongue shape morph set ever did come out!

    Love how this new dental set allows for proper roundness and alternative thickness of teeth. When it comes to sharp ones, I like being able to alternate between flattened 'shark teeth' looks, needle-like and crocodile appearances. Doing a vampire-related art project at the moment and this shall really help. The previous dental set already has done. :)

    Just thought, is it possible to give individual teeth serrated, jagged edges? Shark-style?

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  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited February 2014

    It is possible (would have to test it first), however this product has already been sent to Daz for testing so I cannot add any new features or I will miss the release date schedualled. Will have to look at the poly structure on the teeth to see if serrated edges can be done properly. It would probably have to be HD morphs. However, isolating it for each tooth would mean something like 32 separate HD morphs, so I would have to see how viable and practical that option would be. Would make more sense doing two morphs, one for upper teeth and one for lower teeth. Another alternative is to try and do it with displacement maps but that would be a nightmare to try and intergrate into the material interface.

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  • XenomorphineXenomorphine Posts: 2,421
    edited December 1969

    Always enlightening to hear about the process behind these things. Appreciate the input!

    I didn't used to think there would be so many applications for HD...

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited December 1969

    Oh the HD tech is very handy:) We can add details that aren't restricted to a specific UV set, which I really find useful:)

  • mike-2237369mike-2237369 Posts: 11
    edited December 1969

    Looking forward to the release. Sooner is better - have teeth eagerly waiting treatment. :)

    Any chance any of this goodness being backported to Genesis1?

  • mike-2237369mike-2237369 Posts: 11
    edited December 1969

    Also, for the examples, would it be possible to have the "recipes" used to produce them?

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited February 2014

    Hi Mike. The Genesis1 version was released over a year ago. I will see if it is viable to update it. Too be honest, for its time I was happy with what it had to offer. I prefer moving forward instead of going back. Re-doing older products to match newer ones means time taken away from development on new products, which is first priority. I'm not saying it won't happen, but currently I have way too many projects that are already behind schedule. In terms of a recipe, I made the product easy to understand so users will find it easy to get into. Here is a video showing it in action. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt5GyFFY-2E If I have time, I will see if I can't make some presets.:cheese:

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  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited December 1969

    Product is now live:) Happy Valentines day:)

  • Melissa ConwayMelissa Conway Posts: 590
    edited December 1969

    Question: I have a character (The BeastMan) that has monster teeth. I want his teeth to look normal, but there doesn't appear to be a way to do that (no morph back to normal that I could find). Would Dental Plan fix that..? ie: can I replace the monster teeth entirely with normal teeth..? tx

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited March 2014

    Can you post a pic of the beastman teeth? From that I can see based on the image if the morphs can counter the effect. Also the Beastman is for Genesis1, not 2, so I will have to look at Dental Plan for Genesis.

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  • Melissa ConwayMelissa Conway Posts: 590
    edited December 1969

    Of course I complicated things by using GenX2 to put BeastMan on Genesis 2 Male...

    Here's his pearly whites.

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  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited December 1969

    Is that a rendered version? The teeth look like it came out distorted in the GenX conversion. If that is the case, the morphs wont work properly as the distortion is already on the base shape, so the Dental Plan morphs would just distort things further. In order for them to work, it needs a good base to work from.

  • Melissa ConwayMelissa Conway Posts: 590
    edited December 1969

    I figured something like that. Guess he'll keep his mouth closed! Thanks.

  • Zev0Zev0 Posts: 7,089
    edited March 2014

    Well maybe when you get the conversion over properly we can talk again:) As of right now with those teeth, I cannot assist.

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