M3DTeens for G2M + Cole Extension - COMING SOON [Commercial]
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Male-M3dia and myself have come together to bring you a whole new character set for Genesis 2 Male. A new teen base that will transform your G2M in a whole new and exciting way. Even more there is also a character extension to make the best use of the M3DTeen base. Also the base and the extension both got HD options.
Any questions just ask, and of course we'd love to see your renders soon.
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Just a few images to start off with
1) Comparison between M3DTeen and M6.
2) The adult version of Cole, which is in the addon to M3DTeen.
3) The base shape, with the HD tweaks added.
I would like to ask about the distortion in the stripes on the shirt in the posted image http://www.daz3d.com/forums/index.php?&ACT=50&fid=4&aid=123780_2LciQQRjsltcO6zQNwgF&board_id=1
Is that distortion a result of the morphs in this new package or something else?
that image was rendered in poser and unfortunately not all clothing will look as it does in DS when using DSON, as you can see on other tops it doesn't have it, but I still liked the overall feel of the render.
that image was rendered in poser and unfortunately not all clothing will look as it does in DS when using DSON, as you can see on other tops it doesn't have it, but I still liked the overall feel of the render.
Would it be possible to show the way that striped shirt looks on your model in DS? The shirts in the other renders don't have the uniform stripes that would allow me to evaluate that issue. I am a DAZ Studio user, so Poser DSON problems won't affect me. The Cole teen model looks very nice, and I'd like to be sure that I won't see that kind of clothing distortion in DAZ Studio. Thanks in advance, if that is a render you could add to this thread.
Edited to add: I've only recently become aware of FWArt products. The Christmas gift of the Darc is what brought it to my attention. Since then I've purchased 3 more FWArt products. I'm hoping that Cole can be the 4th!
Edited again to correct product name. Sorry, It is late, I should stop posting until tomorrow!
Now Ive been looking forward to this ever since M3D posted some teasers in M6's release! Looks great, a nice realistic approach to facial structure and overall shapes and an awesome team up of PA's! Textures look great and those eyes are very impressive, looking forward to the bundle :)
And sweet HD!
Handsome lad, looking forward to this release!
I am very satisfied of the support the new male 6th generation has recieved so far!
Yes!!!!! Many thanks in advance to both of you. Have never been disappointed by either of you.
Most likely the "Transfer Active Morphs" function in the Poser DSON Importer. Sometimes it gets a bit wonky calculating the morphs when there isn't a fit for the shape in clothing as it's less forgiving for not having the fit added to clothing. I've given the shape to a few PAs so that they can add the fit to clothing for issues like this, though I haven't seen much issues in DS with the shapes. I'll be happy to give the shape to any PAs wanting to add it to clothing if they would like a copy.
Actually there are six head morphs in the base package and 4 in the addon. ;)
The base package comes with the base shape and two additive shapes. The Cole addon come with the adult shape and three additive morphs to that, then one teen shape. There are HD tweaks for each body shape in each package.
The addon features a teen and adult version of the character Cole, with an additional head morph of his teen and adult best friend (Danny and Harper, respectively).
Would it be possible to show the way that striped shirt looks on your model in DS? The shirts in the other renders don't have the uniform stripes that would allow me to evaluate that issue. I am a DAZ Studio user, so Poser DSON problems won't affect me. The Cole teen model looks very nice, and I'd like to be sure that I won't see that kind of clothing distortion in DAZ Studio. Thanks in advance, if that is a render you could add to this thread.
Edited to add: I've only recently become aware of FWArt products. The Christmas gift of the Darc is what brought it to my attention. Since then I've purchased 3 more FWArt products. I'm hoping that Cole can be the 4th!
Edited again to correct product name. Sorry, It is late, I should stop posting until tomorrow!
Well I did some quick tests this morning, sorry didn't see that till getting up. It seems to be more the top itself than anything else really. Does the same in DS, it shrink-wraps it, while other tops don't. Attached two images, one with that same top in DS and another one with one by Xena. I don't know why that would be as I don't do clothing myself, and maybe M3D may know more, as he's build the morphs for this pack, but I'd say looking at most tops, they all work perfect.
And thanks for your comments re my characters. I hope you have loads of fun with them, and get loads of great renders out of them and of course always know where I am if you have a question.
It would be a matter of the fits as genesis autogenerates a fit if it doesn't find one. Automorph generation will not be perfect with all clothing, which is why I offered it to PAs for content creation as it's a new shape to the Genesis 2 genepool. Most items work fine, although some items will need adjusting (such as dialing back the morph in the clothing, similar to hair). But it looks like it's shrinkwrapping the chest as he does have a larger chest as an adult.
I don't think it's been an issue so far as I'm probably the first that actually morphed a bigger chest into G2M since it's introduction a few months ago.
Will this pack require anything else other than the G2M? If so, what?
I like the look of these teens best of all I've seen so far. The t-shirts are nice but is there a way to get rid of the shrink wrap look? A way to make them loose? Did I ask that right?
The t-shirts aren't included. I'll have to ask FWArt what shirts are those. Generally how the item fits is dependent on the shape fits provided by the PAs in their products. As no M3DTeen shapes are in any current clothing, there may be shrinkwrapping depending on how the clothing item was made. You can generally check the hidden dials in the clothing and dial out or down the morph that's shrinkwrapping.
EDIT: The shirt is from the M6 Intimates, which fit slightly different than other G2M items. It doesn't fit every morph, for example the underwear may have poke through on the hips if you make the glutes bigger even if you turn smoothing on, but it includes adjustment morphs for the hips that correct it. There are also adjustment morphs on the chest, armpit, etc for when you use shapes other than M6 with the outfit. That said, the outfit does tend to cover shapes better in Poser because of the adjustment morphs, however a specialized fit for the Addon shape would work better because of the automorph generation.
The lad is too muscular for me, but making adolescent characters always gains my support :). Keep up the work ;).
The base isn't muscular, however I include additive shapes as people use them for different situations and percentages and be dialed instead of full strength. Also as it allows for heads to be interchangeable, any head from G2M can be swapped so you could make a shorter adult if you wished as well.
Future addons will make him skinnier and fatter as well. Also it is set up to work with the Genesis 2 body morphs, so you can increase and decrease mass easily. The main thing is to have the proper base to work from.
EDIT: This promo shows the base HD teen shape (left), with Jayden's body shape (right). The teens shapes are additive to the base, so you can dial in other morphs to change the base.
Gonna buy this when it hits the store :)
Thank you both for your clarifications about the product and the clothing fitting explanations.
Another shape from the base set....
The t-shirts aren't included. I'll have to ask FWArt what shirts are those. Generally how the item fits is dependent on the shape fits provided by the PAs in their products. As no M3DTeen shapes are in any current clothing, there may be shrinkwrapping depending on how the clothing item was made. You can generally check the hidden dials in the clothing and dial out or down the morph that's shrinkwrapping.
EDIT: The shirt is from the M6 Intimates, which fit slightly different than other G2M items. It doesn't fit every morph, for example the underwear may have poke through on the hips if you make the glutes bigger even if you turn smoothing on, but it includes adjustment morphs for the hips that correct it. There are also adjustment morphs on the chest, armpit, etc for when you use shapes other than M6 with the outfit. That said, the outfit does tend to cover shapes better in Poser because of the adjustment morphs, however a specialized fit for the Addon shape would work better because of the automorph generation.
Ok, thanks.
And it's available!
http://www.daz3d.com/new-releases/m3dteen-base-for-g2m-and-cole-extension-bundle
Just a note:
You can buy the bundle or just M3Teen Base separately, but you do need the M3DTeen base to use Cole as noted in the requirements.
The base isn't muscular, however I include additive shapes as people use them for different situations and percentages and be dialed instead of full strength. Also as it allows for heads to be interchangeable, any head from G2M can be swapped so you could make a shorter adult if you wished as well.
So technically we could make a dwarf now?
That makes it more and more interesting! Thank you for clearing up the confusion about his muscular belly as well. I plan to take a deeper look at the promos in the shop.
A few WIPs I put together from Cole.
I really like this one.
Hi, FWArt, Male-M3dia,
I just purchased these great characters, but when I load in either Teen Danny or Teen Cole I get this warning note. I see this refers to UV Sets for Genesis 2 Female and Victoria 5 which I do not have, and this product says nothing about requiring these items. The characters appear to load in, but I am not entirely sure how this warning relates to these Genesis 2 Male characters. Would appreciate your advice.
Cheers.
Hi,
Nice seeing you around again. :)
Just got up, so won't be able to give you a direct answer right now, will need to check it out after my morning coffee. but it shouldn't be in there as it should all work on the M5 UV base, as that comes as one of the default UV's for Genesis 2 Male. Those two it calls out for are the defaults for the free Genesis 2 Female. so you wouldn't need to have V5 just the basic free G2F, however I wasn't aware it was in there at all, and most certainly wasn't intended to be in there. So the fact it loads all right without any issues seems to suggest that some coding in those two character settings got mixed up. Do you get any of that when you load Adult Cole or Harper at all? as well as when you apply the BaseMat's? Would help me figuring out what happened to know that.
Thanks again and happy rendering with those.
Well it still baffles me why this message came up, as I looked through those and there is no V5 or female UV used in the MATs.... so no idea what is going on there. However rather than have this message keep coming up for you, or you having to download the female Genesis 2 version, I just saved those out again, just download and update your runtime and you shouldn't have that issue anymore.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/72ct47m82xeiw5d/FWM3DCole_UD.zip
Let me know if that fixed it.
-There is a "M3DTeen HD for Genesis 2 Male(s)" and a "M3DTeen Base for Genesis 2 Male(s)", what is the difference?
-If I buy "M3DTeen Base for Genesis 2 Male(s) and Cole Extension Bundle", do I need "M3DTeen HD for Genesis 2 Male(s)" as well?
-What is with this "FWM3D/Cole" folder with the texture files? I cannot find this texture in my smart content, and all Actors in my M3DTeen Smart content are loaded without texture?
OK, I'll answer what I can, M3D will have to do the other bit....
The HD is already included in the bundle, both for the base and Cole, but it was done after we initially submitted it, so thats why it doesn't say it. but it is all in there, for both. so you don't need to get anything extra.
As for the textures in the smart content, as far as I know the Teen base will load without any texture, as it is just the morph base. Therefore only the Cole part would load with textures and the base without. I think that is right, but like I said M3D may need to confirm.
There is no "Cole" in my library except some shapes...
Because nothing was working, I bought all three products. Are I'm right, that I may cancel the two single products and only keep the "M3DTeen Base for Genesis 2 Male(s) and Cole"?
There is no "Cole" in my library except some shapes...
Because nothing was working, I bought all three products. Are I'm right, that I may cancel the two single products and only keep the "M3DTeen Base for Genesis 2 Male(s) and Cole"?
isn't it in your content library at all? I never use the smart content myself, and daz sets it up for us, it's in the metadata I believe... so I don't ever know how that all looks and works, as I personally never used it myself, but it should all be in your normal content library, the 4 Cole character sets, as well as the base shapes, I believe.
and yes there is no need to have the base, the extension as well as the bundle, if you have the bundle, you don't need to have bough the others separately.