Aiko 5 -> children morph

riccoptriccopt Posts: 0
edited December 1969 in Daz Studio Discussion

how can I set AIKO5 to look like a children?
when I set genesis to use aiko5 moth and set the children morph aiko still has big breast while her chest should be flat... is there any easy way to fix it?

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  • kitakoredazkitakoredaz Posts: 3,526
    edited December 1969

    I think you can use AIko5 head morph, as subsitute of Aiko5 character morph (FBMAiko5)
    remove your AIko5 morph shape, in parameter (or shape tab) set value to zero.
    then use Aiko5 head morph as you like and mix your children morph.
    it will reduce your problem.

    Head>female>stylized>Aiko5 head (FHMAiko5)

    but if you want to keep perfect Aiko5 head shape,
    with perfect basic child shape under neck,,you can not do it,,

    because,, genesis basic child shape have no individual head morph ^^;

    you need to get another morph which can change the problem part only and test them,,
    or need to get product child shape morph which have head morph too.
    then apply only body shape with minus head morph value.

    I may suggest to use teen age morph and scale down with AIko5 head.

    http://www.daz3d.com/children/young-teens-5-julie

    (eg Julie morph (FBM)100,
    julie head moprh (FHM) -100
    Aiko head morph (FHM) 100
    change root node scale to 0.7 etc)

    it make AIko5 head, and Julie body (under neck) as 0.7 scale size.

  • riccoptriccopt Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    I think you can use AIko5 head morph, as subsitute of Aiko5 character morph (FBMAiko5)
    remove your AIko5 morph shape, in parameter (or shape tab) set value to zero.
    then use Aiko5 head morph as you like and mix your children morph.
    it will reduce your problem.

    Head>female>stylized>Aiko5 head (FHMAiko5)

    but if you want to keep perfect Aiko5 head shape,
    with perfect basic child shape under neck,,you can not do it,,

    because,, genesis basic child shape have no individual head morph ^^;

    you need to get another morph which can change the problem part only and test them,,
    or need to get product child shape morph which have head morph too.
    then apply only body shape with minus head morph value.

    I may suggest to use teen age morph and scale down with AIko5 head.

    http://www.daz3d.com/children/young-teens-5-julie

    (eg Julie morph (FBM)100,
    julie head moprh (FHM) -100
    Aiko head morph (FHM) 100
    change root node scale to 0.7 etc)

    it make AIko5 head, and Julie body (under neck) as 0.7 scale size.



    seems like I will have to make her a little older than I planned... I already changed from AIKO to HITOMI... because of the nose... perhaps I will have to do a flat chest morph of my own...
  • kitakoredazkitakoredaz Posts: 3,526
    edited December 1969

    Yes it depend on what your goal ^^;
    but if you do not mix full character female shape, but only use head morphs
    you can mix AIko5 head and Hitomi head etc,, as you like,
    then mix with basic child ,,

    I do not know which morphs have you gotten, but eg,,

    http://www.daz3d.com/people/genesis-evolution-morph-bundle
    http://www.daz3d.com/genesis-body-morph-resource-kit-1
    http://www.sharecg.com/v/58198/favorite/21/DAZ-Studio/DieTryings-182-V4-Morphs-for-Genesis(Free!!)

    if you use these morph which have breast morph,
    and you can tweak the body part shape only.( sometimes unlock limits, then apply value minus ,it often work
    to remove the part shape)

    though I can not say which is best and which perfect work with your current shape
    but I can recommend DieTrying morphs to test them if you have not gotten them.

  • riccoptriccopt Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Yes it depend on what your goal ^^;
    but if you do not mix full character female shape, but only use head morphs
    you can mix AIko5 head and Hitomi head etc,, as you like,
    then mix with basic child ,,

    I do not know which morphs have you gotten, but eg,,

    http://www.daz3d.com/people/genesis-evolution-morph-bundle
    http://www.daz3d.com/genesis-body-morph-resource-kit-1
    http://www.sharecg.com/v/58198/favorite/21/DAZ-Studio/DieTryings-182-V4-Morphs-for-Genesis(Free!!)

    if you use these morph which have breast morph,
    and you can tweak the body part shape only.( sometimes unlock limits, then apply value minus ,it often work
    to remove the part shape)

    though I can not say which is best and which perfect work with your current shape
    but I can recommend DieTrying morphs to test them if you have not gotten them.

    These are the main morphs that I am using

    Aging Morphs For Genesis
    Growing Up for Genesis
    Face Weight For Genesis
    Glute and Breast Movement for Genesis
    Dental Plan for Genesis
    Genesis Evolution: Body Morphs
    Genesis Evolution: Head Morphs

  • Scott LivingstonScott Livingston Posts: 4,344
    edited December 1969

    There are many ways you can approach this. One option might be to use the Breasts Small morph to dial down the breasts. You may need to set the Aiko 5 morph (or Hitomi, or whatever character you are using) at less than 100%. Then use that character's head morph to make up the difference. The morph set DieTrying's 182 V4 Morphs for Genesis has a flat morph that might come in handy too.

    You might also be interested in the Satsuki for Genesis character...like Julie, you can load her body and breast morphs separately.

  • riccoptriccopt Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    There are many ways you can approach this. One option might be to use the Breasts Small morph to dial down the breasts. You may need to set the Aiko 5 morph (or Hitomi, or whatever character you are using) at less than 100%. Then use that character's head morph to make up the difference. The morph set DieTrying's 182 V4 Morphs for Genesis has a flat morph that might come in handy too.

    You might also be interested in the Satsuki for Genesis character...like Julie, you can load her body and breast morphs separately.

    Can't use the SMALL BREAST deformer because they will not make the actual breast small... thy distort genesis so that there is something like a HOLE on the upper area of the chest... but the breast are still there... and quite big...

    I will make the the character older than I wanted... that is the easiest solution for my problem... lol...

    but that leaves a suggestion for those MORPH MAKERS

  • Herald of FireHerald of Fire Posts: 3,504
    edited February 2014

    Is there a particular reason you want the adult head on a childs body? Seems to me it would look out of proportion and unusual. I did a quick render of Hitomi with basic child dialled in which is below. I think she looks just precious, but it really depends on what you intend to use it for I suppose. Using the Aiko 5 skin.

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  • riccoptriccopt Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Is there a particular reason you want the adult head on a childs body? Seems to me it would look out of proportion and unusual. I did a quick render of Hitomi with basic child dialled in which is below. I think she looks just precious, but it really depends on what you intend to use it for I suppose. Using the Aiko 5 skin.

    I want the body to look more ANIME like...
    but loading the Hitomi head on the children body seems to work... the thing is that I would like the proportions to grow just like the character... (I ma not sure I can express exactly what I want to achieve as result)

  • riccoptriccopt Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    I will also use the visual style shaders (and a few other shaders that I have bought)

  • Herald of FireHerald of Fire Posts: 3,504
    edited December 1969

    riccopt said:
    I want the body to look more ANIME like...
    but loading the Hitomi head on the children body seems to work... the thing is that I would like the proportions to grow just like the character... (I ma not sure I can express exactly what I want to achieve as result)

    This is one which uses the full Aiko 5 morph, but with the head dialled to -1 to negate it and replaced with Hitomi. Again, I'm using the Basic Child morph but as the full Aiko 5 morph gives breasts even with the child morph I used the following morphs to flatten the chest and make it more youthful.

    Is this closer to what you were after?

    Morphs used:
    Breast flat: 0.4
    Aiko 5: 1.0
    Basic Child: 0.6
    Aiko 5 Head: -1
    Hitomi Head: 1.0
    Breasts Small: 1

    Shader used: pwToon

    Aiko_Child_Anime.jpg
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  • Scott LivingstonScott Livingston Posts: 4,344
    edited December 1969

    If you're using Hitomi, note that the Hitomi Breasts Round morph is dialed up automatically. Dial it back down to get rid of the breasts. Then the only issue is the hourglass figure (hips in particular).

  • kitakoredazkitakoredaz Posts: 3,526
    edited December 1969

    I know there are many Anime style to make attractive character , eg young girl,,lady boy, men, super hero etc,
    then they change proportion much by each Anime writer and work.

    it seems more difficult when talk about Anime style children ^^;

    I think usually Anime children have not so feminine proprotion.

    (on the other hand, make more feminine and clear body proportion about
    teen ager to emphasize the difference from her when she was child.
    but it depend on, the Anime director and writer plan.

    eg you can easy find many anime(アニメ) the heroine have no big breast etc.
    http://www.hotarubi.info/
    http://www.kadokawa.co.jp/tokikake/

  • riccoptriccopt Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    I am still working on the girl child... but this is somewhat what I am looking for...

    familia-carecas.png
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  • Herald of FireHerald of Fire Posts: 3,504
    edited December 1969

    Just FYI even though they're about as anatomically correct as Barbie dolls, I'd recommend posting them with underwear as a minimum. Daz have a strict policy on that which is in the terms of use. That goes double for anything involving children.

    At any rate, I think I have a decent idea of the facial style you're going for. You can try the Aiko 4 style head if you have it which comes a lot closer to the style you want than the other options. The body shouldn't be too problematic since child bodies aren't to dissimilar from the basic child shape even in anime. Any minor adjustments needed can be made using the morphs pack.

  • riccoptriccopt Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Just FYI even though they're about as anatomically correct as Barbie dolls, I'd recommend posting them with underwear as a minimum. Daz have a strict policy on that which is in the terms of use. That goes double for anything involving children. NOTE TAKEN

    At any rate, I think I have a decent idea of the facial style you're going for. You can try the Aiko 4 style head if you have it which comes a lot closer to the style you want than the other options. The body shouldn't be too problematic since child bodies aren't to dissimilar from the basic child shape even in anime. Any minor adjustments needed can be made using the morphs pack.


    thanks for the hints.. I will check what I can do about it and post some new renders...
  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943
    edited December 1969

    Is there a particular reason you want the adult head on a childs body? Seems to me it would look out of proportion and unusual. I did a quick render of Hitomi with basic child dialled in which is below. I think she looks just precious, but it really depends on what you intend to use it for I suppose. Using the Aiko 5 skin.

    This child and the pose are heartwarming! :)

  • Herald of FireHerald of Fire Posts: 3,504
    edited December 1969

    Kerya said:
    This child and the pose are heartwarming! :)

    Thanks, but I can't take credit for the pose. It comes with Genesis as standard and is an updated version of one of the original K4 poses. Besides, I couldn't post a youngster without making them look at least somewhat cute. ;)
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