Garibaldi or LAMH?
Mistara
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i see one of them in the sale.
but wondering if i should wait for the LAMH? lamh has the free player.
has anyone tried both?
which one is easier to work with?
renders better results? renders faster?
do they both render in luxus?
thanks :)
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I have both. The learning curve is about the same on either one. Both give nice results. I think this is one of those, "which ever you are more comfortable using". Might try to hit up each of their respective websites to see what they offer as far as help, docs etc.... I use them both for different things. Garibaldi more for human hair, LAMH for animals....but that is just me. They both do nicely for either.
Sorry - not a lot of help I know.... LOL
They do essentially the same thing the same way, so render speeds are comparable.
Interesting post. I thought Garibaldi had the obj export option also. I bought LAMH awhile back and have never gotten good results, guess I need to play with it more.
Garibaldi does have an .obj export option but it is not a supported feature. If you intend to export hair to other render engines, you're better off with LAMH. Unless he changes his mind, the Garibaldi author has stated that he is not interested in supporting export options.
On the other hand, AoA's advanced lights have a flagging option for Garibaldi that dramatically speeds up render time for the hair - it doesn't work for LAMH hair.
Thanks for the info, glad I never invested in Garibaldi since I never render in DS.
Did you get the recent update? I got LaMH not long after it came out, but never really got anywhere with it. The new version still has a few little eccentricities, but it's a lot easier to get good-looking results.
I use LAMH and I am totally satisfied with it. I tried Garibaldi beta too but didn’t impress me at all and found the interface quite dispersive.
Personally I would look at Support garibaldi express out a year and still unfinished Help Files, Help Video's From Website below:
Spotlight introductory tutorials on particular Garibaldi Express Areas:
More Coming Soon...
DAZ Studio integration.
3D texture painting..(1 year later Nothing)
Hair distribution and colouring..(1 year later Nothing)
Styling guide curves..(1 year later Nothing)
Clumping fur and hair..(1 year later Nothing)
Tweaking fur and hair..(1 year later Nothing)
Shading, lighting and Rendering..(1 year later Nothing)
But dont take my word for it look at it yourself http://www.garibaldiexpress.com/help.html
Still at Version 1.0
If I was you I would go for LAMH constant support from Alessandro_AM and Kendall Sears and have had several updates and new things added since launch.
Personally, I'd go with Garabaldi Express, LAMH was nothing but a waste of money as far as I'm concerned, I definitely regret that purchase.
I have Garabaldi and as a relatively inexperienced all around user of Daz I did manage with the large Garabaldi thread to turn out some nice results. some say Lamh seems to be better for animals and Garabaldi for human. That being said, a lot of what Gone is doing with Garabaldi on animals is really bringing that distinction to naught.
As to the point about support and version iirc an update was submitted beyond 1.0 into daz (don't quote me on this) but I know for a fact you can find the link on the commercial thread to get the updated garibaldi once you have purchased it. Since it has not been updated in Daz it is still called betas and is available on the garibaldi beta site but adds other functionality. If you want in depth answers on Garabaldi, Gone is the one to ask. He is the one who almost single handedly troubleshoots the aforementioned thread :)
This is why I say Support from the creator is poor, its like oh I have your money Bye, If you need any help just ask the other users.
LAMH has great support from Creators and Users, Cant stand PA's that just dont bother after something goes on sale I dont care how busy someones day is there is always time to spend 20 mins or so answering someones questions, but he last posted June 17, 2013 I call that very poor.
Me have Garibaldi http://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#images/19534/ and it does hair and fur or thin Spines http://itiseyemeeszark.deviantart.com/art/Brian-Posing-For-the-Camera-377347086
LAMH brings Hair, Fur, Leaves, Condensation, thick Spines and I would imagine a lot more but I don't have LAMH but I intend to.
I do have to agree with Sal, support for me is important and Alessandro_AM and Kendall Sears support is second to none.
I have Garibaldi and I did try to use LAMH but it was unstable with Garibaldi on my system. Would like to have the both but ended up with just Garabaldi. Maybe further down the line I try LAMH again. But for now Garibaldi has been rock solid, even tough I'd like the extra bells and whistles that LAMH has, I wouldn't want to uninstall Garibaldi to use it.
I absolutely LOVE LAMH and there's many reasons to get LAMN, for one, many products have LAMH presets, such as many of RawArt's awesome characters :) Secondly, there's a lot of freebies (and I do take requests to make LAMH presets when I have time!) and 3, as you mentioned, the free player is great for loading presets, but if you wan the power to create long flowing hair (and even braids, which I have been able to accomplish in LAMH!) as well as the many amazing features for styling in LAMH... to me its a no brainer.
And while everyone's mileage on each plugin will vary, I tried Garibaldi and it crashed non stop. And as pointed out before the customer support from Kendall and Alessandro is just simply amazing and will help iron out any individual problems with computer systems and work hard to keep LAMH working with all the latest Daz versions.
Oh right, and have you SEE the newest Millenium big cat 2????? And their fur add ons??? O.o
Yeah I'll stop before I go nutso about the wonders of LAMH :P but yes, for me, buying it was a total definite yes.
If you want to use presets made by others: there are many, many, many more for LAMH (many by belovedalia)
If you want to make your own hair ... both are good.
LAMH users are much, much more often reporting problems and crashes, but there are Alessandro and Kendall as support.
Garibaldi (apart from the Betatesting stage ages ago) doesn't get the problem and crash messages by users that LAMH gets, but I haven't seen Futurebiscuit here in the Dazforum in a long time (there is a beta forum where you can get updates and Daz has the update AND a free Garibaldi Player that should be released s..n - but that is in the hands of Daz)
Garibaldi is easily installed (go to your account, fetch serial number, put serial number in - plugin installed and working)
LAMH will have you jump through hoops to get an extra activation code from Alessandro (it works, but it is a hassle)
Both have an obj. export - but I wouldn't put too much stress on it, as it will export MANY polygons which will crash lower end computers.
Like I said Kerya, mileage for each program varies, I suspect, based on whatever is installed and versions etc etc, because I could never get garibaldi to work without crashing when I tried to render.
LAMH was around longer, and is more visible, it makes sense IMO that any user problems would also be more visible. I've seen some cool Garibaldi stuff, won't lie, but the benefits for using LAMH are numerous :D
oh noes, i don't want install hassles. only my netbook has internet, i can't internet activate products on my render pc.
oh noes, i don't want install hassles. only my netbook has internet, i can't internet activate products on my render pc.
I don't do internet on my DAZ Studio PC either: you can do it all with separate systems, you just need to copy a code from one screen to the other then copy the result back. It's not ideal, but it worked for me easily enough.
I don't do internet on my DAZ Studio PC either: you can do it all with separate systems, you just need to copy a code from one screen to the other then copy the result back. It's not ideal, but it worked for me easily enough.
i had to do that for Sony's video software.
I'm leaning toward the lamh cuz of the free player. :) my hellwarden needs a mohawk doo, would be nice to be able to share.
Both are good products. I would say LAMH is more geared toward critters and monsters where fine control of the style is not as necessary while Garibaldi is better at human hairstyles. When working on hairstyles I had trouble with guide hairs getting inside the skull in LAMH. But when furrying animals you can get results faster with less efforts in LAMH than in Garibaldi. In Garibaldi you have a setting to prevent guide hairs to get inside the mesh plus you can specify how many selectable control points you can have in guide hairs. So if you want to have a guide hair divided in 6 or 10 vertices that you can pull in any direction you decide you can do it.
I have a pretty solid Windows 7 machine and I kept getting crashes in DAZ Studio when using LAMH plus had to move my Octanerender plugin out of the plugins folder in order for LAMH to work, otherwise it would get stuck when trying to preview hairs. LAMH has a way to export your hairdo immediately to fibermesh and it also places the shaders right there for you which is awesome. You are even given a selection of shaders to choose from. Like people have said here the customer service is top notch in LAMH. Kendall Sears was readily available to answer all of my questions. Hands down a winner at customer support since Garibaldi's creator has been absent for a long time.
On the other hand Garibaldi was a rock solid piece of software, it made me feel like the program had less bugs and was better coded as it didn't have problems with Octanerender or any other plugin, I never crashed when using the software and the control I had let me do things more sophisticated to what I was able to do with LAMH. That might be why you have seen really nice hairstyles in the Garibaldi forum thread superior to what I've seen from LAMH. There is a very dedicated user base for Garibaldi led by Gone that are ready to answer any questions and help you along. There is an upgrade that as an owner of Garibaldi you can get when you join the beta forum that lets you paint with symmetry which make it even more awesome. There has also been a free player ready for awhile too but for some mysterious reason hasn't been released yet.
i can't resist, garbaldi is on sale. :)