carrara 8.5 pro good for pictures not animation?
fis7157
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all the picture renders look good but i don't see know one doing short film animations that look good they all are pretty terrible looking are there any good ones out there? it seems like there aren't any if so where are they? before i buy can some one show a short film that looks good. and the tutorials are almost non existing please show something
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Care to define terrible? It's a pretty broad brush you're painting with. Is it the lighting? The movement? Have some links to share so we're on the same page?
Carrara has many helpful animation features. Editable keyframes, multiple tweener types, graph editor, the ability to create and layer non linear animation clips (NLA), Puppeteer, almost everything in Carrara can be animated including shaders, modeling and rigging tools, etc. etc.
Many times it's not the software, but the person using it that creates the so-called terrible animation. As to using the tools, there are many tutorials. Principals of doing a good animation are not software software specific.
"QUIET" A film made with Carrara nominated for Award
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhJa-5FBrI&list=UUlUo2mnmZKK7vdF-AYL5aaQ
Nominated short for Going Underground Film Festival
Its not the tool, its the craftsman that makes the difference!
He's probably referring to mine! LOL
The only stuff I've uploaded so far are just test render videos clipped together. Yeah... not so good. But I have learned that Carrara is great for animation. But I am by myself, and doing a lot more with Carrara besides my animation projects, so they take a lot of time to do, as you might imagine :)
hey Dart think he means mine!!
check out this user http://vimeo.com/m/user4301838 specifically Modern Times
Good calls, Dream Cutter and Wendy!
NASSOS also made Human Nature, a short film that won many awards. Carrara must be doing something right to have a storyboard artist from Dreamworks using it! ;)
If you really want a laugh, though... here is a short movie I made that I spoke of above. Just for Fun was actually not a Carrara test, but a Sony Vegas Movie HD Platinum test, using test render animation footage that I was supposed to delete, but hadn't done so yet, so it provided a good test of my earliest stages of using it - which was my 30 day free trial before finally buying it, which I did. But don't blame Carrara for my shortcomings.
For NASSOS new short that has yet to be released for viewing publicly yet, he enlisted the assistance of another great animation artist whom uses Carrara, Faba.
The Frog and The Prince by faba
...and let's not forget Sub7th - check out his portfolio. I think there's even a music video in there that he did the special FX on using Carrara.
...and there's the Carrara 8 demo reel, that shows of tid bits from Age of Armour, Dimension Theory, Stu Sutcliff, evilproducer, and more.
I guess one thing that I'd really like to say to anyone considering Carrara, is that it is different in very good ways. It has so many capabilities, that you can really do most of your work using nothing more. We all seem to use other things with it, but often just for postwork effects and such. Since I've had Carrara (since 2010), I don't ever find myself exporting from this to that and then back to Carrara... I simply do what I do in Carrara. I have purchased aniMate 2 for DAZ Studio for making my own aniBlocks, and the aniBlock importer for Carrara to get the aniBlocks onto my timeline. But after making a few aniBlocks, I barely ever actually leave Carrara anymore. The only time I find myself making aniBlocks, is when I want to attach a few existing ones together, editing the result, and saving the block. Otherwise, I find it too easy to keyframe my animations directly in Carrara - but to each their own on that matter.
For me, I'm also amazed at how easy it is to select what "I" feel is important to render. Carrara's render room is filled with ways to set up renders to be slow and super-accurate to really fast and not as accurate, and everywhere in between, with several other options beside the photoreal render engine shader. These differences are clearly labeled and pretty easy to understand, and set up for what I want according to my time constraints. That's huge for me.
The texture room is the same way. Easy to understand, yet fully capable. It's amazing.
"Just For Fun" sure was fun to view. I can see you were testing with frame -rates or interpolation as character animation improves in smaller scenes vs out door /complex scenes. I really thought the sci-fi scenes were well done. In particular the scene where the spaceship looking like a fish(from the murky depths with the headlight) in a fish bowl swims and comes into view with its flippers flapping. That bit was particular clever!
Well, I think it's my terrible animations that are being discussed! ;-P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLHnOrEyz3Y&list=UU6wB1FKPN4DWpuoVsQY2o8Q
I use carrara for technical animations. The answer is simple. Yes Carrara can render the same quality for an animation as it does for a still. Animating requires an insane amount of work and render time to get a polished look. That is why pro houses use teams to animate and render farms to render. What you see is the best efforts of a one man band approach to animation. I know of someone that workss full time in a pro house and just does hair.40+ hours a week on just hair. For the most part I don't think this is a limitation of the software. Though of course a 5k software package will make it easier.
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Homer Simpson comment on A3 Walk Cycle:
"mmmm.... Polygons" ;-P
Watch this! It was made with the help of Daz Studio (animate2) and iClone (motion puppet), but all the animation was refined in Carrara and the sets and atmosphere were built and rendered in Carrara. It is definitely possible to animate in Carrara. It has a wonderful graph editor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya78oBLqRlg
And/or look at:
http://bond3d.wix.com/carrarators#
Well, these are some animations that I made in Carrara just messing around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Chk7kwXy-U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk_5cmdh5iE&list=UUxvlqsI120X0xinEZMh0BDw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h61UTlhRi8&list=UUxvlqsI120X0xinEZMh0BDw
it actually depends on the user rather than the software
if you are as terrible at it as me yours will not look good either but if you are gifted then I am positive you can get a good outcome.
Or you might see also:
http://www.markusrothkranz.com/carrara_3d/exp_animation1.html
http://catapultcruzers.com/instructions.html
This has a few animations in it.
I'm not sure if you're talking about V. 8.5 specifically, or Carrara in general. If its the latter, I've had a good experience doing short animations in Carrara Pro V. 8.1 and earlier (I finally bought 8.5 when the price was lowered to a reasonable level for what it provided, but I haven't used it). I have experience with Poser, Bryce and Lightwave, and consider Carrara much better for short animations, especially using Poser type figures (M4, V4, scenes, props, etc.). In particular, Carrara handles large scenes (many figures, props, lights) much better than Poser (at least the older versions of Poser - I've stopped upgrading).
Here is a short animation done in Carrara for a 48 Hour Film type contest (meaning it was done in two days), the judges liked it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN1pXYvEqIc
After seeing that, I wanted to see what other Carrara stuff he was doing. The link that sbilf provides takes you to part of that exploration that I've discovered. He did some neat stuff with earlier versions of Carrara. And the latest versions can do all that and more!
sbilf also mentioned Carrarators.
It's been a while since I've checked that place out. Very cool to see all of the happenings. I need to make more time for more internet interactions! ;)
I checked out the cinema to see if I could find that dragon movie that's playing in the home screen, and it doesn't appear to have any sort of menu for choosing what to watch. Do you have to sit through each to see any that might lie beyond? Is there a list somewhere to help visitors determine what they might be in store for? I love the concept, but have so little time.... I thought there used to be an index in there somewhere....
So I started modeling and adding rigs using Carrara, and I love it!
Yeah, I always felt that anything to be done with CG can be accomplished in Carrara.
Mars Springtime was done in carrara, according to the credits:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5Ie7i6vRUM
Dartanbeck -
How did you reply the day before the post? One of the genres for this year's 48 Hour Film Project is "Time Travel", this gives me some ideas ...
:coolhmm:
"Mars Springtime" is very good, very funny. Another genre for this year's contest is "Road Movie" ... :coolsmirk:
A while ago I tried to compile any *completed* animation projects I could find in a playlist, in response to this idea that "no one animates in Carrara" (just because you didn't bother to look?):
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMqkFJEqYHtu34uVZxTwObCs1PwNystEV
But you should remember not everyone wants their work on youtube..., and not everyone who uses Carrara within a larger production is going to say they used Carrara. I would actually say, there is probably a "curve" where the more professional the project the LESS LIKELY it will be on youtube being associated with any particular software. Usually only students and hobbyists (and people selling products or training to a specific community) will target their videos at one specific software.... Most professionals will actually be a little vague about what software they used to appeal to a "generic" industry in a portfolio.
Check out the PROJECTS section on CAFE too. Some interesting animations there.
You got that right, Holly. My Brother is the head of the robotics division of his company. They have a studio from Texas that makes all of their pre-vis presentations for their products. It's a father/son operation that uses Carrara as the main software for modeling and animation, and that part is unknown to most, unless asked. But the videos cannot be posted to the internet at all, but they've been doing this sort of professional work with Carrara for many, many years. Being the head of it all, he had the authority to show me some of the videos.
LOL I didn't want to keep adding new quoted replies, so I just edited that one into my last one! :coolhmm:Very cool, quite professional, and interesting to watch. It needed little people running about. These guys were all made and rigged in Carrara, and the suspension on all of the vehicles, running on rough terrain, was nicely animated. Wheels spinning and throwing dirt in the air and onto the side of the vehicles... very cool to see that kind of detail in lo-res pre-vis shots... all added to sounds and a touch of music... very neat! :)
Rubidium bravo, bravissimo. Very cool and funny. :-)
This is also a fun website that dates back to Carrara 3 or 4... with tons of short examples of Carrara being used for visualFX.
http://www.markusrothkranz.com/carrara_3d/carrara_3d_3.html
has the original poster been back?
wanna know the verdict!
I was thinking the original post was a bit troll-sih just by the inflammatory choice of words. Then you factor in the low post count....
Speaking of Markus Rothkranz, Check This Out! I never knew he actually wrote and directed a movie. But he did ;)
It's a commercial! The clips to the movie look okay, but I can't stand the motivational speaker-spiel!