Selling Renders?
KimberSue
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Hi, I was just wondering if anyone has ever had any luck selling renders? I was considering trying to sell some of my renders but wasn't sure if there was even a market for them.
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I know that we have several customers who use our software to illustrate books, comics etc. as freelancers. Whether you consider that the same as selling a render I'm not sure.
If you are successful we'd love to hear your experience.
Greetings,
There are folks on Renderosity who render pretty much stock images (using the default cameras, etc.) from some of the sets sold here and sell them as backgrounds. I don't know how much success they have. (I'm not saying all background sellers do that, but I've seen a few, especially from Howie Farkes sets.)
There's definitely a market in commissioned renders.
My partner let me know that Radthorne showed up at a recent SF convention, with pieces in the art show, which are usually for sale in one way or another.
deviantArt has the ability to sell prints through their site, although nobody's ever bought one of mine.
It's entirely possible to sell your renders, but you have to find the audience who would be most interested in owning a copy of it.
-- Morgan
I personally feel that should be against the EULA, after all the image with the background competes with the 3D version of the product., thus a potential for lost sales on the 3D version, just my view on it
I sell to a couple of publishers and have done other commercial pieces.
I was considering offering a section of renders artwork at my store, renders with people in them. But I'm not sure exactly who the target audience would be.
Thanks of your input
I personally feel that should be against the EULA, after all the image with the background competes with the 3D version of the product., thus a potential for lost sales on the 3D version, just my view on it
I sell to a couple of publishers and have done other commercial pieces.
I had actually seen that happen over at Rendo, there was and probably still is a vendor over there that was selling Carrara created BG images for use in renders.. I did report one of this particular vendors products to the Rendo staff and it was removed.. As some of the images in this vendors product were pretty much the advertisement renders used in one of the Carrara products here..
I think as long as you make them as unique as possible then you should be good.. The hard part is hoping it is not copying something else which when it comes to BG images created in Studio, Carrara, Poser or whatever can be difficult..
Good luck with selling your renders, but I doubt it will be easy to find your target audience.
You need to be prepared to fight against obstacles, as pointed out by FSMCDesigns and ghosty12.
Probably will be much easier to find people, that are saying, the renders compete with 3D version of the product...
There is a regular member of the Bryce forums who uses Bryce to both build and render commercial adverts for real life products, and also has now branched out into a series of images which should be available as Christmas cards someday in the future.
http://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#galleries/620/
http://www.daz3d.com/gallery/#galleries/715/
At one time I was commissioned to produce some images to be screen printed on to souvenir products, such as Tea towels, scarves etc. I also know of people who sell rendered images at Art Fairs, although this is a more difficult thing to get any success with, as there are a lot of people trying to break into doing just this.
If you have renders you deem are good enough for publishing for sale, I'd recommend DA.
The point is, you can offer prints there, which are requested every time somebody wants to buy them. You can use DA points, PayPal or other means.
Stock providing is a very successful part of the market, but at DA, people actually work with their content, so it is not out-of-the-box rendering. I'd say they actually expand DAZ customer base, because they're always happy to help you and spread the word about DAZ Studio, so many people who started by photomanipulating took up rendering afterwards to have more flexibility in the content.
You have to be very self-demanding if you decide to become a stock provider. You must think about the lighting, because flexibility is the key to your success in that field. I use UberEnvironment, but you need to consider the needs for a particular set.
good luck with renders - I know people who do painting with oil and such
and they have a tuff time selling any .
You've all given me a lot to think about. I'd love to sell renders, I've spent nearly a year learning about render setting, etc.. but without a target audience, I'm not sure if I want to go down this road. This is step one in researching a target audience. I have over 10 years experience with corel draw suite products which I'd really like to find a way to use with my new 3D skills.
Thank again, I've been given a lot to think about
Daniel Eskridge sells 3D art, he's the most successful that comes to mind. He uses DAZ 3D content and renders in Vue.
I have sold a few posters and iPhone cases with my 3D Art thru Zazzle, but I don't promote and just put them up and leave them be.
maybe you could make money as a promo artist?
Hey, I would do that for free. So if anyone is interested... :-)
I think the best way to make Money with your renders is to print them as Pictures or on Smartphone cases, Mugs or Shirts and so on - there a many webshops that do such, like that one who delivers into 120 countrys http://www.vistaprint.de/vp/welcome.aspx?no_redirect=1&xnav=logo - and sell them on eBay or your own webstore
That's a German website link btw.
Plenty of stores worth considering but its a tough marketplace to get noticed.... cafepress, imagekind, ... many more
http://www.cafepress.com
http://www.imagekind.com/
Try changing your approach:
3D Renders are simply 2D Illustrations. The illustration is the product. 3D software is just one of many medium options you have available to create the art. If the art is good, it doesn't matter what tool you used to create it.
So instead of trying to earn a living as a "3D Render Artist".. think of what you can do as an Illustrator.
- Books
- Book Covers
- Fantasy Card Games
- Board Games
- Cosplay Marketing Materials
- Greeting Cards, etc.
Then roll up your sleeves and get yourself educated on how to market yourself as a business. Its ugly out here and not for the faint of heart. :)
~Bluebird
...and he does that on DA (we talk from time to time there, maybe he also sells somewhere else).
As Bluebird3D said, 3D is just a technique. Think about WHAT you enjoy creating and find an audience. Promo art, covers, wallpapers, maybe minifigures for roleplaying (the ones you print on good quality paper with high gramature and cut out to make 2-dimensional stand dolls). A lot of people would appreciate commissions for their OCs.
What I was thinking of was selling renders ( my store http://imaginative3d.com ) and allowing the people who buy the renders to put them on products at visa, cafepress, etc... I'm just not sure how to get people like this in my store and if it's worth the time.
I've seen images from FilterForge (Photoshop plugin, also a standalone) as stock images on big stock image sites, and also as 'texture sets' at Rendo. I have mixed feelings about it, but I know over in the Filter Forge forums the individual filter programmers tend to gnash their teeth and about have strokes over it. :vampire:
I recently had someone contact me asking me to render a scene to be used as their product logo/label. After a mis-start we finally got on track and they were very happy with what I was able to come up with for them using the newly released Giselle 6. They had seen my work on DeskToppers; desktop backgrounds that I churn out every month (MOSTLY my own work in 3D, Photoshop and photography.) and liked a couple of characters enough to contact me. I'd hate to have to try to pay my bills relying on that sort of happenstance though! :gulp:
I'm looking for a product for my store besides Marvelous Designer Patterns and OBJ development kits. While I do sell some Daz clothing, it not something I really want to put a lot of time into because their are too many other stores for my small shop to stand a chance selling clothing.
Right now I'm trying to come up with an idea.
I've seen images from FilterForge (Photoshop plugin, also a standalone) as stock images on big stock image sites, and also as 'texture sets' at Rendo. I have mixed feelings about it, but I know over in the Filter Forge forums the individual filter programmers tend to gnash their teeth and about have strokes over it. :vampire:
Is that what FilterForge is for? Making images to use in products or resell?
I use to make several hundred a month back when cafepress only offered three products. The boom lasted for a few years then so many people started selling product that it was impossible to make enough money for the time.
Is that what FilterForge is for? Making images to use in products or resell?
Filter Forge is a filter program and filter for PhotoShop. The filters themselves are provided by the community of user/programmers. I use it's effects to enhance my own work so don't know anything about licensing and reselling the results of their filters. Google 'Filter Forge' and prepare to be amazed! I use FF almost every time I use Photoshop! I used it to add caustic underwater FX and the connected lines/dots to this image, for instance:
there are WebShops like DriveThruRPG on wich People can sell Stock Art with License for Commercial and/or Private use
3d Renders are used in book cover design. As a graphic artist and writer I have a group on Facebook and have artists that do Daz and poser backgrounds also characters. They sell them on istock, deposit photos, shutter stock etc. fantasy, sci-fi characters and backgrounds along with urban fantasy type characters are a lot of what we look for. I use 3D characters in my Premade covers. I been searching everywhere for 3D stock characters that’s good. I found free ones that are ok on pixabay images. Hope this helps.