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Want to use my old works again

HeraHera Posts: 1,957
edited December 1969 in The Commons

Hello!

Back in 2010 I made some renders with scenes, which I now want to re-vive and re-use parts of for certain reasons. Only that they were done on another computer and in an older version of DAZ (but with things I still have and use like Michael 4 and so on) and when I try to open these files now, most of the things in it don't load. Well the items seem to load but they are not visible in view-point or render.

I know that this has been adressed before, but I don't' remember if there was ever a solution for it and can't find he threads again eiuther.

So tell me, is there a way to save those old renders. And why do never versions of DAZ not load everthing that was in those old scenes?

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  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634
    edited July 2014

    it is a lack of Data that the item will no load. If the Data folder isn't saved and transferred then this will happen all the time with old scene files. It isn't DS but the user in this case. :) The only way around this is to load all the items into a new scene and save as a new file name. No need to worry about posing and placing as all you are doing is re-establishing the Data. Once saved reopen the old scene and it all should load....hopefully. ;)

    Post edited by Szark on
  • MattymanxMattymanx Posts: 6,902
    edited December 1969

    I dont know why certain scenes load and some dont as I can open scenes from DS 1.8 but I have one from DS3 that does not load right.

    The best way to get the old scenes to the new computer and have it all work would be to copy over the old Data file folder plus ALL the old saved scenes. Using a compression program like 7zip would be the fastest way personally.

  • M F MM F M Posts: 1,388
    edited July 2014

    I was in just this situation yesterday - answer: it depends.

    (a) do you have access to the hard-drive from the old computer? ... if so, you need to rescue the contents of the "data" subdirectory of your main content folder on there. When you save a scene in DS, it writes references to a bunch of pre-processed files in the "data" subdir of your first mapped content folder - and if those files are no longer available (eg on your new computer), then you'll get empty objects and things. If you do copy over the old data/ entries into your current data/, then you'll be able to see the objects on your new computer (although shaders can go wonky, as I discovered X).

    (b) even after rescuing data/, if you used any fancy shaders, you may find you need to either reinstall those as well, or replace them in the scene (I had a recent example of an "alien A3" - her skin turned bright green - as a result of using the old omHumanSurface shader). A little tedious, but not too painful;

    (c) if the old hard-drive with your "data" really is no longer accessible (eg reformatted, thrown out, or corrupted), then IF you can work out what items were used in the scene, then it is possible to restore the "data" contents by loading those items into a new scene (any old how), and saving the scene. This will recreate the entries in "data" called up by your old scene, and once again the geometry will be displayed properly;

    HTH (^_^)n

    EDIT: beaten by Szark, and far more concisely <(^_^)...</p>

    Post edited by M F M on
  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,053
    edited December 1969

    Mattymanx said:
    I dont know why certain scenes load and some dont as I can open scenes from DS 1.8 but I have one from DS3 that does not load right.

    Same here. It seems that not only are there quite a few DS3 products that don't work properly (or at all) in DS4, but quite often the ones that still do have been changed enough that they no longer read the older data.
  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,053
    edited December 1969

    Cybersox13 said:
    Mattymanx said:
    I dont know why certain scenes load and some dont as I can open scenes from DS 1.8 but I have one from DS3 that does not load right.

    Same here. It seems that not only are there quite a few DS3 products that don't work properly (or at all) in DS4, but quite often the ones that still do have been changed enough that they no longer read the older data.

    Oh, and one other thing - if you're sharing libraries with Poser, I've noticed that installations of figures and props made back when I was using P5 and 6 no longer load properly in DAZ, which may be due to changes made when I installed later versions of Poser.

  • SzarkSzark Posts: 10,634
    edited December 1969

    M F M said:
    I was in just this situation yesterday - answer: it depends.

    (a) do you have access to the hard-drive from the old computer? ... if so, you need to rescue the contents of the "data" subdirectory of your main content folder on there. When you save a scene in DS, it writes references to a bunch of pre-processed files in the "data" subdir of your first mapped content folder - and if those files are no longer available (eg on your new computer), then you'll get empty objects and things. If you do copy over the old data/ entries into your current data/, then you'll be able to see the objects on your new computer (although shaders can go wonky, as I discovered X).

    (b) even after rescuing data/, if you used any fancy shaders, you may find you need to either reinstall those as well, or replace them in the scene (I had a recent example of an "alien A3" - her skin turned bright green - as a result of using the old omHumanSurface shader). A little tedious, but not too painful;

    (c) if the old hard-drive with your "data" really is no longer accessible (eg reformatted, thrown out, or corrupted), then IF you can work out what items were used in the scene, then it is possible to restore the "data" contents by loading those items into a new scene (any old how), and saving the scene. This will recreate the entries in "data" called up by your old scene, and once again the geometry will be displayed properly;

    HTH (^_^)n

    EDIT: beaten by Szark, and far more concisely <(^_^)...</div>

    lol yeah but you added more info, like shaders etc.
  • MattymanxMattymanx Posts: 6,902
    edited December 1969

    Cybersox13 said:
    Mattymanx said:
    I dont know why certain scenes load and some dont as I can open scenes from DS 1.8 but I have one from DS3 that does not load right.

    Same here. It seems that not only are there quite a few DS3 products that don't work properly (or at all) in DS4, but quite often the ones that still do have been changed enough that they no longer read the older data.


    I will be honest, my one scene that does not load right, its a car that is the issue and not any native DS3 content. The whole scene is poser content.

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