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How can we change thumbnails ?

JamyJamy Posts: 192
edited December 1969 in Carrara Discussion

Hi everybody,

After long search on the forum, I can't find the good way to change Thumbnails in my personnel catalog in Carrara.
is someone know the process ?

Thanks for the help :)

Jamy

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  • JimmyC_2009JimmyC_2009 Posts: 8,891
    edited December 1969

    Do you mean icons in the Content area, Smart Content, or Scene/Objects/Shaders etc ?

    You can use the Large Preview/Small Preview buttons at the top of the pane at the bottom of the interface, but that is all that you can change as far as I know. The ones in Scenes/Objects etc, are saved a part of the .CAR files, and do not have a separate icon.

    The ones in the Content and Smart Content should have an associated .PNG file with the same name, and that can be changed to another image, but the size would remain the same as far as I know, is that what you mean?

  • JamyJamy Posts: 192
    edited December 1969

    JimmyC_2009 said:
    Do you mean icons in the Content area, Smart Content, or Scene/Objects/Shaders etc ?

    You can use the Large Preview/Small Preview buttons at the top of the pane at the bottom of the interface, but that is all that you can change as far as I know. The ones in Scenes/Objects etc, are saved a part of the .CAR files, and do not have a separate icon.

    The ones in the Content and Smart Content should have an associated .PNG file with the same name, and that can be changed to another image, but the size would remain the same as far as I know, is that what you mean?

    Thank you for your answer Jimmy,
    it's exactly what I mean (sorry for my poor english). In fact, most of of the time when I save an object in "Scence/object…", the preview is not very good (not enough large). After that, it's very hard to find something. I'm disappointed to discover that there is nothing to do. :(

  • JimmyC_2009JimmyC_2009 Posts: 8,891
    edited December 1969

    I don't know of any way to change the size of the icons, other than the Small Preview/Large Preview, but someone else may be able to help. I haven't been using Carrara for very long.

    I know that there have been many requests to be able to change the font to a larger size as well, to make it easier to read.

  • PhilWPhilW Posts: 5,145
    edited September 2014

    The best way that I have found is to use a product called P3DO Explorer Pro. This allows you copy and paste in your own image, so you can frame your thumbnail exactly as you would like. It does lots of other things as well, but my own main use for it is in editing the thumbs for product releases. Note you need the Pro version, there is a free version but it doesn't have the thumb editing feature.
    http://www.senosoft.com/softp3dopro.php

    Post edited by PhilW on
  • JonstarkJonstark Posts: 2,738
    edited December 1969

    Yes, like Philw I also use P3DO (even though I'm not a vendor, It was worth it to me to save thumbnails I could easily visually identify for my various shaders etc)

  • ProPoseProPose Posts: 527
    edited December 1969

    PhilW said:
    The best way that I have found is to use a product called P3DO Explorer Pro. This allows you copy and paste in your own image, so you can frame your thumbnail exactly as you would like. It does lots of other things as well, but my own main use for it is in editing the thumbs for product releases. Note you need the Pro version, there is a free version but it doesn't have the thumb editing feature.
    http://www.senosoft.com/softp3dopro.php

    I bought P3DO Explorer Pro a few months back for that very reason, but I have yet to use it. Is there a walk thru for that process somewhere out there?

  • JamyJamy Posts: 192
    edited December 1969

    PhilW said:
    The best way that I have found is to use a product called P3DO Explorer Pro. This allows you copy and paste in your own image, so you can frame your thumbnail exactly as you would like. It does lots of other things as well, but my own main use for it is in editing the thumbs for product releases. Note you need the Pro version, there is a free version but it doesn't have the thumb editing feature.
    http://www.senosoft.com/softp3dopro.php

    Yes Phil, I saw that, but if I don't make a mistake, it's only for PC, not for Mac.

  • PhilWPhilW Posts: 5,145
    edited September 2014

    Jamy pruvot said:
    PhilW said:
    The best way that I have found is to use a product called P3DO Explorer Pro. This allows you copy and paste in your own image, so you can frame your thumbnail exactly as you would like. It does lots of other things as well, but my own main use for it is in editing the thumbs for product releases. Note you need the Pro version, there is a free version but it doesn't have the thumb editing feature.
    http://www.senosoft.com/softp3dopro.php

    Yes Phil, I saw that, but if I don't make a mistake, it's only for PC, not for Mac.

    Looks like you are right, but it does say that it should work under a Windows emulation if that is any use to you. I am not aware of any other products that do this. Ringo recently posted a method which involves editing the .CAR file to change the shader:
    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewreply/667186/

    Post edited by PhilW on
  • Jay_NOLAJay_NOLA Posts: 1,145
    edited December 1969

    Tutorial P3DO Carrara video.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q1fisuxrOBQ

    I had this link in the plugins FAQ.


    ProPose said:
    PhilW said:
    The best way that I have found is to use a product called P3DO Explorer Pro. This allows you copy and paste in your own image, so you can frame your thumbnail exactly as you would like. It does lots of other things as well, but my own main use for it is in editing the thumbs for product releases. Note you need the Pro version, there is a free version but it doesn't have the thumb editing feature.
    http://www.senosoft.com/softp3dopro.php

    I bought P3DO Explorer Pro a few months back for that very reason, but I have yet to use it. Is there a walk thru for that process somewhere out there?

  • dot_batdot_bat Posts: 373
    edited December 1969

    if you are on a mac there is the develpoer pack that has an app for making icons http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5293?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US, you can try this. the last time i used it was for 10.6.8

  • ProPoseProPose Posts: 527
    edited December 1969

    Jay_NOLA said:
    Tutorial P3DO Carrara video.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q1fisuxrOBQ

    I had this link in the plugins FAQ.


    ProPose said:
    PhilW said:
    The best way that I have found is to use a product called P3DO Explorer Pro. This allows you copy and paste in your own image, so you can frame your thumbnail exactly as you would like. It does lots of other things as well, but my own main use for it is in editing the thumbs for product releases. Note you need the Pro version, there is a free version but it doesn't have the thumb editing feature.
    http://www.senosoft.com/softp3dopro.php

    I bought P3DO Explorer Pro a few months back for that very reason, but I have yet to use it. Is there a walk thru for that process somewhere out there?

    Must be getting old. I have that link. Thanks Jay

  • JamyJamy Posts: 192
    edited December 1969

    PhilW said:

    Looks like you are right, but it does say that it should work under a Windows emulation if that is any use to you. I am not aware of any other products that do this. Ringo recently posted a method which involves editing the .CAR file to change the shader:
    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewreply/667186/


    Thank you Phil,
    I will try it asap.

  • JamyJamy Posts: 192
    edited December 1969

    dot_bat said:
    if you are on a mac there is the develpoer pack that has an app for making icons http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5293?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US, you can try this. the last time i used it was for 10.6.8

    I don't know if I'm able to use it Dot_bat :/
    Not enough strong in using X11 or similar

  • Persona Non GrataPersona Non Grata Posts: 1,365

    Is P3DO still the best was to change thumbnails and does it run OK under Windows 10?

  • TangoAlphaTangoAlpha Posts: 4,584

    Yes it does. 2.6.2 (August 2018) is the latest release as far as I know.

    Back up your .car file before you run it though, cos it can be a bit buggy, and it sometimes produces a file that then won't open.

  • rk66rk66 Posts: 441
    edited July 2019

    2.6 R2 update (September 28, 2018) is the latest.

    Post edited by rk66 on
  • Persona Non GrataPersona Non Grata Posts: 1,365

    Thanks guys, I had a look at the .cbr file and it seems to be an archive txt file with the image embedded as a byte array and I was thinking of having a go at programming Python to read the thumbnail which I think is housed between TVPr {...here...}

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    i manually transfer thumbnails by copy pasting with notepad. (the byte arraysmiley)

    first i do a scene render to make the thumbnail i want. render with preview.

  • Persona Non GrataPersona Non Grata Posts: 1,365
    edited July 2019

    That's very interesting...

    Post edited by Persona Non Grata on
  • Persona Non GrataPersona Non Grata Posts: 1,365

    Well, I decided to purchase p3do and am waiting for a software key - how long does that take?

  • Persona Non GrataPersona Non Grata Posts: 1,365

    I'm still waiting...

  • Persona Non GrataPersona Non Grata Posts: 1,365

    Just arrived - so I'll give it a whirl...

  • Persona Non GrataPersona Non Grata Posts: 1,365

    Works a treat...

    image

    (Click on detail above for the bigger picture)

  • Persona Non GrataPersona Non Grata Posts: 1,365
    edited July 2019

    ..the only think I would say is that when you use the beautifully iconed shaders by either dragging them to the shaders tab or directly over an object Carrara recalculates the icon for the copied file - WHY???


    BECAUSE - any alterations to the shader need to be updated in the thumbnail - so, the developer decided to just program a sub-routine to do this automatically upon changes to the folder !!!

    Post edited by Persona Non Grata on
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