drawing tablet VS render software like Daz. Whats best?
Drekkan
Posts: 459
I been learning more about drawing/graphics tablets lately and have seen some impressive renders with them. I was trying to find out more on what people might think about using them as a substitute instead of programs like Daz. or Poser etc.
Often I find a lot of characters or scenes I want to create in programs like Daz are not easy due to factors like finding the right clothing or props to make the scene work and when you often do find the right stuff (which you don't always find them) you have to of course pay for it. I have had some good idea's over the past of renders I have wanted to do but I could never really do them as I could not find the right items I needed or the right clothing or props but of course people who use tablets don't have this problem as anything can be created from your imagination and put on that blank page providing you have drawing skill but it will only be as good as your abilities.
I was also told your ability to make your characters or scenes look more real than drawings are a lot greater with Daz and such by using reality and numerous other plug-ins etc and obviously a big advantage is you don't even have to draw to use programs like Daz or poser I mean I know if I tried to draw some of the types of Daz or Poser renders I have seen it would be a massive FAIL! you get to save a lot of time too with rendering as opposed to drawing.
So what do you guys think? what would you consider to be the best perks programs like daz has over drawing tablets? I know even if I took more to using a tablet I would still use Daz also but I am just wondering what the profound benefits might be. Thx.
Daz 3D is part of 
Connect
DAZ Productions, Inc.
7533 S Center View Ct #4664
West Jordan, UT 84084
Licensing Agreement | Terms of Service | Privacy Policy | EULA
© 2024 Daz Productions Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Comments
The two are completely different things!
I use both and use an Intuos Pro tablet although I never use my tablet in DAZ but do use it for postwork in Gimp.
A tablet is just like a pencil or any other medium to draw with but then in software on your screen.
DAZ Studio is also a software, but you cannot draw in it but you could use a tablet pen to navigate in it.
well yes I stated this.
A drawing tablet is a tool used in conjunction with a graphics app. It's pretty much a set of digital pens/pencils/brushes/airbrushes. Your results with it depend largely upon your skill level as an artist, your skill using the tablet itself, the graphics app you are using it with, your creative vision, and probably a whole load of other things I can't think of this early in the morning after working all night.
DS is another app completely. It has it's good points and it's bad points. In the hands of an experienced user, it can give amazing renders. It has a learning curve. It can also get expensive.
Is this for your own amusement or for employment?
I think you may have an incorrect notion about tablets. You can utilize a tablet in place of a mouse. The tablet itself never renders; that would be the function of a program. In programs such as ZBrush, the pen enables you to work on a malleable mesh better than a mouse because the pen, as opposed to a mouse, has sensitivity. Think of it as a mouse is like a ballpoint ben where it draws with ink at full strength. The pen on a tablet is more like a pencil in that if you draw with less pressure, you get a stroke that is lighter than if you pressed harder. Again, however, the pen is allowing you to work with these levels of sensitivity and no rendering occurs. So it is a work tool much like your mouse, but more refined.
A program such as Studio can be manipluated with a mouse when you pose or use DFormers, but the rendering then takes place in the program. As others have been saying, the tablet and pen is different than a program that renders.
Well, that's really not true.
-time to find/purchase the items you want
-time to install and organize said content so you can find it when you want it in your library
-time to load the characters, dress and pose them, load and place scene stuff and props
-time to set lighting and camera
-time to be sure the materials look like what you expect when you render
-time for several test renders so you can spot things you have to change/move/repair
-time for the final render at a large size and high quality
vs
-time to draw
-time to toss that one
-time to draw the next version
-etc
So, as with everything in life. It depends (on skill, eye, familiarity with tools, etc.)
Excuse me, maybe I have not understood your question ... I have no drawing tablet, but before I know daz / poser, I drew on paper and it colored everything by hand.
But let me see if I understand:
You mean draw the character several times following the sequence of the story, in every scene, every drawing has to color / paint everything again ... have to paint the character's clothes each new scene, paint the scenario from the beginning in each new scene ...
while in poser / daz all the clothes they are already textured, just conform and posing
in poser / daz is only apply the skin textures on the characters and they will be textured for the whole sequence of scenes to follow without having to stand coloring / painting textures to each scene ...
I love to see the hand made arts, traces the shades in the colors, a lovely visual, is an art that is still alive, good!
But it is very laborious, each frame is made from scratch, black and white, and then comes the work of colors / textures / paintings, and so repetitively.
But again I say that perhaps have not understood your question.
...
While I have never used a drawing tablet, I did used to draw with pencil and paper prior to getting into 3D. Using rendering software instead of paper was a big change. Some things became very limited or impossible; on paper you can draw anything at all, however you have to have the skill to do it and a really good knowledge of how light works. Using graphics software is different, it is more directing and anranging the set and actors rather than drawing (plus some drawing to create custom textures.) It gave me huge limitations, for example as you stated one can only use objects that one can buy or create. Years of trying to learn modeling quickly showed that wasn't for me unfortunately, so I'm limited to what I can purchase or hack together from pieces of purchased products. On the other hand, it also opened up huge new possibilities at the same time. I can create any number of lights, change their colors and angles, position them, and see how the resulting scene looks with colors and shadows; something impossible to do when just drawing by hand. I can edit the scene infinitely (if I don't use postwork) to get it just right; I couldn't erase colored pencil, I would have had to start over. It's also much more expensive than paper and pencils though.
In summary, it's different, and can be both disappointing and super exciting at the same time in different ways.
I have been wanting to buy a tablet for use simply so I could more easily edit custom materials. Have you ever tried to draw a straight line or a perfect curve with a mouse? Yikes? I want a tablet with a stylus! But I'm too cheap to buy one at the moment. Maybe someday.
I'd like to second most of what's been said here. A drawing tablet does not give you all the software and creative ability. It's simply a tool to help you create more efficiently and accurately.
If you still want to try one out, I'd suggest looking for something like the intuos pen and touch or manga that comes with software. Most of wacom's tablets come with a couple free software downloads, and they all work pretty well, so maybe you can make more of a decision based on that.
Stay away from Cintiq or higher end products that will just end up emptying your wallet.
I also recently heard about the intuos creative stylus. It seems to do a pretty good job of replicating how full drawing tablets work. It just works with ipads and other pc tablets. Might be worth a try if you want to save some money and still give drawing tablet technology a shot. Plus, since it is designed to work with apps, you've got a lot of different software to choose from.
intuos creative stylus review