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Sky Hndx
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Is there a way to see who gave your renders a thumbs up? I tried to hover the mouse over that icon and figured it might show who rated it and ended up giving myself a thumbs up. I suppose I could have gone nuts and clicked several times but that's just cheating. :-/
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AFAIK there is no way to see who liked your image unless they also left a comment.
BTW if you clicked the button a second time you would remove the Thumbs up. So clicking it several times would just give you an on off, on off sequence. :coolsmirk:
Oh, okay I see. It would have been nice to tell the person thanks for the like and maybe like something of theirs back just to be friendly. And as for the on off thing it would have been a nice way to kill time. ....I was sent home from work in anticipation of a hurricane and tropical storm that pretty much fizzed out.
I never even realised you could give yourself a Thumbs Up. Surely there must be a way of preventing this scurrilous and downright dastardly activity! >:-(
I never even realised you could give yourself a Thumbs Up. Surely there must be a way of preventing this scurrilous and downright dastardly activity! >:-(
...well, the hurricane was a bust and I got bored
The DAZ Gallery is really lame. Sorry to say that, but it is true.
So if you want to show your art to a broad audience, and if you want some serious feedback, publish your images somewhere else.
I totally disagree with that. The DAZ 3D Gallery is the best Gallery that has been on this site.
LOL....no. I also hate to say it, but it as far as exposure, comments, or critiques go, it sucks. I get featured regularly (daily Inspiration) on another gallery, and not a single view here. Not even a "Madbat, that one really sucks, what were you thinking." At least then I'd know people think I suck. That' called honesty.
On a positive note, it's a decent looking gallery, and easy to upload to and organize. I also like the asset accreditation feature. The image pages themselves look good, but in the end, no views or comments makes it pointless to use it.
Correct.
Another big downside is that we have no categories for the images. Yes, you can tag them and search for tags, but different image categories would be much better and easier. This way, it is only a big mess of images and it is very hard to find anything.
The DAZ Gallery works exactly as it should, the best images rise up purely based on merit, and the day, week, year, and all time collections prove it. Amazing images that deserve attention.
Nobody wants the rendo style manipulated voting, you vote for mine and I'll vote for yours and we'll feel good about ourselves because the same small group keeps petting each other. You want that, it's already over there. The gallery here works just fine as it is. Like Chohole said; best DAZ gallery to date, except one cool feature in the old days, the best images of the month did win DAZ Bucks which was a nice treat.
I had images in Best of the month in the old gallery more than a few times.
I'd think a gallery should be about more than only the best images getting some feedback. If that's the case, I might as well go delete my gallery then. No point in having one here. In fact, your right. I'll do that.
You are right about the rendo gallery though. I don't go there at all.
The most popular image of all time has 74 votes. How much is that compared to the number of active members? How many users have actually watched and/or downloaded this image? How popular is it really - compared to other images with much less votes?
In my eyes this says nothing.
Another example. Try to search for sci-fi images. What exactly do you search for? "sci-fi", "Sci fi" or "scifi"? Every search brings up different results.
When the gallery went online, many users complained about the strict TOS. The DAZ team apologized with the reason that there are no filters yet, which would allow adult content like all other galleries do. Today there are still no filters? Why not?? The old ArtZone galleries had filters.
No categories, no filters, no competition, no feedback, no real rating possibilities. Lame. Sorry.
If your primary goal is feedback try posting to the Art Studio forum.
You're not getting it. What's the point in posting to a gallery then? So i can waste time uploading, crediting and commenting for nothing?
If my renders have no merit so as to deserve no feedback or comment at all, there's no point in them being here.
Gallery deleted, problem solved.
Same here. Done.
You know, most useres here are pure hobbyists. We love what we do and we do not get paid for our art. In fact we have to pay for the stuff that we are using in our images. We spend many hours creating and rendering images, sometimes being really excited about the result. Then we upload the image to the gallery and wait. And whats next? Next day our image is already on page 5 of the gallery because some super brains have decided to flood the gallery again with all theis WIPs and test renders, while our masterpiece is somewhere below with zero votes and zero comments. Away and forgotten. Thats simply frustrating.
My only issue with the gallery is the posting of works in progress, test renders, and the like. When I walk into a Gallery to view an artist and/or make a purchase, I don't want to see a whole series of tried and didn't quite make it pieces. I want to see the finished product. If, for some reason, I want to see the earlier works that are the genesis of the final work, I will ask and arrange a time to see them if they are available.
I always thought galleries were where the final work was displayed not a whole series of WIP's or test renders.
If I'm incorrect please feel free to enlighten me.
I agree completely.
But others could say, how can you judge an image if it is still WIP or if it is finished? So that does not work.
I think a simple upload limit would solve the problem. Two images per week per user. Done. And only those images which deserve to be in a gallery would be there.
I agree completely.
But others could say, how can you judge an image if it is still WIP or if it is finished? So that does not work.
I think a simple upload limit would solve the problem. Two images per week per user. Done. And only those images which deserve to be in a gallery would be there.
I agree with both comments. The way the gallery is now is less than viewable. Either way, I took the hint and scrapped my gallery here.
How does removing your gallery help in any way? I don't have a lot of images in my gallery here, and none of them garnered that many thumbs ups or comments, but I liked the artwork when I created them, and posted it. Sure its nice to get positive feedback for the work, but art is just fun to do, if other people like it, that's a bonus; but what does matter, is the self expression.
So a new user starts out using DAZ Studio, and is totally proud of managing to generate an image and wants to share it. They feel good about it. Why should anyone take away their right to post an image they created to their gallery. Exactly none of us should ! It's their art, their expression, and their gallery.
And it's our right to skim over the thumbnail images and click on then ones that catch our interest, enlarge the ones that intrigue us, like the ones that impress us, and comment on the ones that we just need to share a word of compliment. The system works, because I enjoy looking at art everyday, and discovering at least one gem every once in a while. It's because great art is so rare, that makes it special.
The best images do seem to rise to the top, but there are always going to be good ones that kind of fall through the cracks (this happens on other sites too). So if your image doesn't have many likes or comments, it doesn't follow that it's not any good.
At least, that's what I tell myself when it happens to me! ;-)
I get it. There is a lot of chaff in the gallery.
But...
Hah, have you SEEN some of what passes for art these days; that politicians make me pay for via my tax dollars? I submit to you that the Hoi Poloi often do a much better job.
Besides, DA already has this "deserve to be there" rule. Isn't there some room in the DAZ gallery for a more relaxed guideline...for those amongst us who are still learning a craft and honing our skills?
I do get it about the test renders. Maybe DAZ should give some guidance about that, or provision a special gallery or even just a "tag" for test renders. That way people viewing the gallery could select "show/don't show test renders" so they won't feel their time is being wasted.
That's unfortunate. I wish you hadn't given up. And lest you argue about that, yes you did give up. You gave up on this community, all because you wanted it to be what you wanted, damn the rest of us. You wanted it to meet your reality, not the reality that it has already found and lives by, just by its nature.
I go to DA on occasion but that's a huge community and I can't see everything that there is; it's just not possible! If you're neither here nor there, then I may not find your works anywhere.
Hmm… I have a gallery at deviantART where I post my reders. But in my Favorites I have mostly traditional art; sculptures, sketches and oil paintings and I mostly leave comments on these kinds of works. I rarely fave renders because it appears most that I’ve seen in galleries across the net fit into what is becoming generic for the medium; overly ornate, over done and in a thong. I can appreciate the technical skill that has gone into very complex imagery, but you see it done again and again and again in everything then it all begins to blur into one another. Then my reaction becomes, oh look, there’s one of those…again.
No matter the amount of exposure if style is all you have you won’t get many reactions above, “Wow that’s so kewl!” if there’s no substance.
I do agree with that, despite my griping (it's been a rotten week). I've stuff that's complete crap, and some that's not. I cleared out most of my DA gallery because quite honestly, it sucked. While I don't have a gallery at Rendo, one thing it does foster is a bit of community. The I'll fave yours if you fave mine can get annoying, but at least there's a community happening that supports each other. Here, I don't get the sense that anyone is interested in anyone else but themselves. On Shadowness, I get into the Daily Inspiration gallery because the panel likes my stuff (and they have really good stuff there...go figure). If they don't like it, it doesn't get in. On DA, I get feedback. sometimes people tell me they don't like something, sometimes they tell me they do. A little feedback is nice. I go visit people who's art has 'no substance' because they are real people, who like the contact. A 'Wow that's kewl' comment at least tells you 'Hi, I was here!' Sometimes it's a nice thing to recognize that other people exist apart from outstanding talent and spend some time enjoying a mutual hobby.
To set the record straight, I never said nor implied anything about STFU. Or even thought it! The one poster said that, basically after he voluntarily did the very same by deleting his gallery.
Unfortunately, I think I need to end my participation right now. I wish all the best of luck and I hope you find whatever it is you're looking for.
"all because you wanted it to be what you wanted, damn the rest of us. You wanted it to meet your reality, not the reality that it has already found and lives by, just by its nature."
Lets translate that.
'all because you wanted it to be what you wanted, damn the rest of us':
You didn't get what you wanted, but you only exist to give me what i want.
You wanted it to meet your reality, not the reality that it has already found and lives by, just by its nature.":
You are not allowed to have your own expectations. Accept the status quo, support us and be quiet.
I just shortened that to STFU.
Anyway, I'm done here too.
as long as you think there are good or bad images you have no clue
there is only your liking
nothing more or less
Please remember that the DAZ 3D forum ToS does say
I've never really made use of my Galley here (hell, I barely even post on my Art Zone thread), but I'll admit, it's because I don't feel like I have many "good" renders to post. My views on this type of matter is pretty 50/50. I believe that if you are going to go out of the way to post your work, you should at least give your audience something interesting to look at. However, if you are going to post tests and WIP renders or if you're actually someone who enjoys seeing that type of progress, then there really should be a different place in the gallery for those, so it doesn't take away from either party's viewing experience.
This is why I'm glad people are bringing up DeviantART, because DA has gallery categories for featured works, finished/main works, and a scraps section for WIPs and the such. DAZ could make good use of such a concept. :)
nothing i do is really post worthy, and besides that most of it violates the TOS, certain local and state laws, and a few of the laws of physics
lately i think i spend more time taking my images down than putting anything up. never even bothered with the gallery here, not posted anything to it, and i think i have looked through it maybe twice. I used to look through the old gallery all the time... the new one just doesn't grab me. can't really say why. I have the most stuff up over at DA which i really don't care for, but its one of the few places I can actually post my work, not like anyone wants to see the crap I do anyway.
By the way, does anyone know what the gallery does with our images?
Once I have uploaded an image with about 700 KB in size. When I downloaded it again from the gallery it had just about 400 KB. Why that? Is the gallery compressing the images? Do they loose quality with uploading? Shouldnt it be the same file with the same size?