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Carrara 8.5 on Mac OSX 10.9 crash

TomTomZurichTomTomZurich Posts: 0
edited December 1969 in Carrara Discussion

Hi people !

I have the problem that Carrara 8.5 doesn't run at all on my Mac with OSX 10.9.
After entering the serial number or selecting the trial mode the software just crashes with a very long crash report !!!

I am trying now since one week to sort out this problem with the help center from DAZ, but I just get standard answers or no answer :(

In the DAZ wiki they recommend to use the 64bit version for MAC, but they dont offer the download link for it !!
In my product library I can only download the 32bit version .. !?!??
And because of this, of course I was till now to able to check the recommended Carrara version :(

So, finally that means that I bought software which doesn't work at all on my Mac :(


Hopefully somebody here is having a proper solution for this disaster ?!

Many advanced thanks for your help, BR Thomas

Comments

  • evilproducerevilproducer Posts: 9,050
    edited December 1969

    thomas.theurer said:
    Hi people !

    I have the problem that Carrara 8.5 doesn't run at all on my Mac with OSX 10.9.
    After entering the serial number or selecting the trial mode the software just crashes with a very long crash report !!!

    I am trying now since one week to sort out this problem with the help center from DAZ, but I just get standard answers or no answer :(

    In the DAZ wiki they recommend to use the 64bit version for MAC, but they dont offer the download link for it !!
    In my product library I can only download the 32bit version .. !?!??
    And because of this, of course I was till now to able to check the recommended Carrara version :(

    So, finally that means that I bought software which doesn't work at all on my Mac :(


    Hopefully somebody here is having a proper solution for this disaster ?!

    Many advanced thanks for your help, BR Thomas

    Hello Thomas,
    sorry to hear about your issues. :(

    Can you tell us if you bought the Standard, or Pro version? I think the Pro version is the only one with the 64 bit version of Carrara.

    There have been people that have used the 32 bit versions on their Mac. The names escape me at the moment.... Anyway, it may help us to know which Mac you have and its specifications.

    There have been some issues in the past with the serial number and permissions not working as expected, so some people run as the Root User to enter the serial number (don't forget to disable root user after you're done). I don't recall reading about crashes, just that the serial number needed to be re-entered every time Carrara was launched, although it is possible there is some sort of conflict that causes Carrara to crash.

  • evilproducerevilproducer Posts: 9,050
    edited December 1969

    I should add that if all else fails, DAZ 3D does have a 30 day money back guarantee.

    Also, if you have the standard version, you may be able to upgrade to the pro version if your budget allows. There are other advantages to the Pro version, such as more features, network rendering, etc.

  • TangoAlphaTangoAlpha Posts: 4,584
    edited December 1969

    If you do have the standard package, get a refund and buy Pro. It's only $15 more at the moment, and you get an extra $100 worth of content (V5/M5 Pro bundles) yet alone the extra Pro features. No brainer really.

    Having said that, make sure you give the DIM installer permissions when it asks for them. It should put Carrara inside the Daz 3D folder in your Applications folder. It worked for me flawlessly, but I do have Pro. (Side note: I wonder if this is related to the installer bug that prevented Howie's Harpsburg from installing properly? It might be worth mentioning this bug to support and see if it jogs anything. Quote reference 176094 and also point them to this thread)

  • TomTomZurichTomTomZurich Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Thx for your pretty fast replay :)

    Yes, I have the standard version, but I am willing to upgrade it now ... if this will solve my problem ;)
    But unfortunately I dont know how to upgrade ... via the help center ?


    I attached a complete crash report .... probably this will help you guys.

    Btw. I tried now also to install Carrara as an standard user (not admin) and same here ... same crash :(
    So, for me its obviously not related if I am installing as the admin or an standard user ....

  • TomTomZurichTomTomZurich Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Process: Carrara [1937]
    Path: /Applications/DAZ 3D/*/Carrara.app/Contents/MacOS/Carrara
    Identifier: com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243
    Version: 8.5.0 (8.5.0.243)
    Code Type: X86 (Native)
    Parent Process: launchd [195]
    Responsible: Carrara [1937]
    User ID: 501

    Date/Time: 2014-09-19 14:05:35.750 +0200
    OS Version: Mac OS X 10.9.5 (13F34)
    Report Version: 11
    Anonymous UUID: CB664AFB-B3BA-512A-FF33-20FFDEB5DE93


    Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

    Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
    Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000

    Application Specific Information:
    abort() called

    Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
    0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90d2d952 __pthread_kill + 10
    1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e39167 pthread_kill + 101
    2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x90f1429c abort + 155
    3 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x0047024d boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 4496639
    4 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x004024be boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 4046704
    5 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x004027cc boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 4047486
    6 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x0040424e boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 4054272
    7 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x00177c23 boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 1382101
    8 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x002f5439 boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 2944747
    9 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x002f5543 boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 2945013
    10 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x002f92e9 boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 2960795
    11 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x002f757d boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 2953263
    12 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x002f7d7d boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 2955311
    13 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x002f81f7 boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 2956457
    14 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x0028dde8 boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 2521242
    15 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x0011d8c6 boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 1012600
    16 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x0011dc3f boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 1013489
    17 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x0011ddc3 boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 1013877
    18 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x0030b777 boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 3035689
    19 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x00024f06 0x1000 + 147206
    20 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x00024e2d 0x1000 + 146989

    Thread 1:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
    0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90d2e992 kevent64 + 10
    1 libdispatch.dylib 0x91bd5899 _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 238
    2 libdispatch.dylib 0x91bd5532 _dispatch_mgr_thread + 52

    Thread 2:
    0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90d2e046 __workq_kernreturn + 10
    1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e39dcf _pthread_wqthread + 372
    2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e3dcce start_wqthread + 30

    Thread 3:
    0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90d2e046 __workq_kernreturn + 10
    1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e39dcf _pthread_wqthread + 372
    2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e3dcce start_wqthread + 30

    Thread 4:
    0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90d2e046 __workq_kernreturn + 10
    1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e39dcf _pthread_wqthread + 372
    2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e3dcce start_wqthread + 30

    Thread 5:
    0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90d28f7a mach_msg_trap + 10
    1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90d2816c mach_msg + 68
    2 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x944f552d TS_exception_listener_thread + 138
    3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e385fb _pthread_body + 144
    4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e38485 _pthread_start + 130
    5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e3dcf2 thread_start + 34

    Thread 6:
    0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90d28fce semaphore_timedwait_trap + 10
    1 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x944c5071 MPWaitOnSemaphore + 104
    2 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x0040e0bd boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 4094831
    3 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x00320f4f boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 3123713
    4 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x00321007 boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 3123897
    5 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x00325941 boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 3142643
    6 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x0040dea1 boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 4094291
    7 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x944c52ce PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
    8 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e385fb _pthread_body + 144
    9 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e38485 _pthread_start + 130
    10 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e3dcf2 thread_start + 34

    Thread 7:
    0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90d28fce semaphore_timedwait_trap + 10
    1 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x944c5071 MPWaitOnSemaphore + 104
    2 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x0040e0bd boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 4094831
    3 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x00320f4f boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 3123713
    4 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x00321007 boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 3123897
    5 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x00325941 boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 3142643
    6 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x0040dea1 boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 4094291
    7 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x944c52ce PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
    8 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e385fb _pthread_body + 144
    9 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e38485 _pthread_start + 130
    10 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e3dcf2 thread_start + 34

    Thread 8:
    0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90d28fce semaphore_timedwait_trap + 10
    1 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x944c5071 MPWaitOnSemaphore + 104
    2 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x0040e0bd boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 4094831
    3 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x00320f4f boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 3123713
    4 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x00321007 boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 3123897
    5 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x00325941 boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 3142643
    6 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x0040dea1 boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 4094291
    7 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x944c52ce PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
    8 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e385fb _pthread_body + 144
    9 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e38485 _pthread_start + 130
    10 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e3dcf2 thread_start + 34

    Thread 9:
    0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90d28fce semaphore_timedwait_trap + 10
    1 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x944c5071 MPWaitOnSemaphore + 104
    2 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x0040e0bd boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 4094831
    3 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x00320f4f boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 3123713
    4 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x00321007 boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 3123897
    5 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x00325941 boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 3142643
    6 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x0040dea1 boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 4094291
    7 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x944c52ce PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
    8 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e385fb _pthread_body + 144
    9 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e38485 _pthread_start + 130
    10 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e3dcf2 thread_start + 34

    Thread 10:
    0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90d28f7a mach_msg_trap + 10
    1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90d2816c mach_msg + 68
    2 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x944f6186 YieldToThread + 326
    3 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x944f63cf YieldToAnyThread + 18
    4 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x00400479 boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 4038443
    5 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x004006be boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 4039024
    6 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x0031c61e boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 3104976
    7 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x003f5f2a boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 3996124
    8 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x944f5e1c CooperativeThread + 305
    9 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e385fb _pthread_body + 144
    10 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e38485 _pthread_start + 130
    11 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e3dcf2 thread_start + 34

    Thread 11:
    0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x90d28fce semaphore_timedwait_trap + 10
    1 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x944c5071 MPWaitOnSemaphore + 104
    2 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x0040e0bd boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 4094831
    3 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x00389564 boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 3551254
    4 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x00179026 boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 1387224
    5 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x00325941 boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 3142643
    6 com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.0.243 0x0040dea1 boost::date_time::day_clock::local_day() + 4094291
    7 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x944c52ce PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
    8 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e385fb _pthread_body + 144
    9 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e38485 _pthread_start + 130
    10 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x98e3dcf2 thread_start + 34

    Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
    eax: 0x00000000 ebx: 0x00470211 ecx: 0xbffff54c edx: 0x90d2d952
    edi: 0xa0dee1a8 esi: 0x00000006 ebp: 0xbffff568 esp: 0xbffff54c
    ss: 0x00000023 efl: 0x00000206 eip: 0x90d2d952 cs: 0x0000000b
    ds: 0x00000023 es: 0x00000023 fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x0000000f
    cr2: 0x00470200

    Logical CPU: 0
    Error Code: 0x00080148
    Trap Number: 132

  • evilproducerevilproducer Posts: 9,050
    edited December 1969

    thomas.theurer said:
    Thx for your pretty fast replay :)

    Yes, I have the standard version, but I am willing to upgrade it now ... if this will solve my problem ;)
    But unfortunately I dont know how to upgrade ... via the help center ?


    I attached a complete crash report .... probably this will help you guys.

    Btw. I tried now also to install Carrara as an standard user (not admin) and same here ... same crash :(
    So, for me its obviously not related if I am installing as the admin or an standard user ....

    You may need to enter the serial number as a Root user. This is a super user- above administrator, and it is very important for your security to go back to administrator when you are done.

    Apple's support documentation should tell you how to do it if you search their site for your OS version.

  • thoromyrthoromyr Posts: 452
    edited December 1969

    There was an issue with Carrara, admin rights, and the registration code, but that was back with v7 IIRC -- 8.5 doesn't have that issue. Like others, I use Carrara 8.5 Pro on 10.9 without issues (well, mostly :) )

  • evilproducerevilproducer Posts: 9,050
    edited December 1969

    thoromyr said:
    There was an issue with Carrara, admin rights, and the registration code, but that was back with v7 IIRC -- 8.5 doesn't have that issue. Like others, I use Carrara 8.5 Pro on 10.9 without issues (well, mostly :) )

    I think the issue with C7 and the admin thing was with Windows if I recall. I do know that I read about it for Macs with C8.5, but I'm not sure if that was just for the beta.

    There's this thread that seems to verify the C8.5 issue, though the OP is a bit, shall we say, mercurial, and no longer posts here for various reasons.
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1424706

  • thoromyrthoromyr Posts: 452
    edited December 1969

    evilproducer said:
    thoromyr said:
    There was an issue with Carrara, admin rights, and the registration code, but that was back with v7 IIRC -- 8.5 doesn't have that issue. Like others, I use Carrara 8.5 Pro on 10.9 without issues (well, mostly :) )

    I think the issue with C7 and the admin thing was with Windows if I recall. I do know that I read about it for Macs with C8.5, but I'm not sure if that was just for the beta.

    There's this thread that seems to verify the C8.5 issue, though the OP is a bit, shall we say, mercurial, and no longer posts here for various reasons.
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1424706

    Speaking as a user of OS X who has 7 on up I can safely say that 7 had the issue with privs. In fact, just to make sure my memory was correct I ran it just now (I never did go through the contortions to make it stick) and it still asks for the information on launch.

    I have no idea about Windows and admin. I never experienced an issue, but switched to OS X a few years ago.

  • evilproducerevilproducer Posts: 9,050
    edited September 2014

    thoromyr said:
    evilproducer said:
    thoromyr said:
    There was an issue with Carrara, admin rights, and the registration code, but that was back with v7 IIRC -- 8.5 doesn't have that issue. Like others, I use Carrara 8.5 Pro on 10.9 without issues (well, mostly :) )

    I think the issue with C7 and the admin thing was with Windows if I recall. I do know that I read about it for Macs with C8.5, but I'm not sure if that was just for the beta.

    There's this thread that seems to verify the C8.5 issue, though the OP is a bit, shall we say, mercurial, and no longer posts here for various reasons.
    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1424706

    Speaking as a user of OS X who has 7 on up I can safely say that 7 had the issue with privs. In fact, just to make sure my memory was correct I ran it just now (I never did go through the contortions to make it stick) and it still asks for the information on launch.

    I have no idea about Windows and admin. I never experienced an issue, but switched to OS X a few years ago.

    I still have C7.2 on my Mac, which is still a PPC and have never had the permissions issue. It may have been due to changes in the OS and lack of changes in Carrara that caused the issue. Be that as it may, Rich wasn't the only that had that issue with C8.5 from what I have read.

    Post edited by evilproducer on
  • That Other PersonaThat Other Persona Posts: 381
    edited September 2014

    I have C8.5 Pro running fine on a Mac with 10.9. No problems with the install. Downloaded DIM and installed from there without a problem.

    I assume you are using the DIM to install?

    It might be good to delete everything and try again. There are apps for uninstalling applications; things go everywhere and it can be a pain to look for them yourself.

    Also, have you updated your Mac OS? I can't recall having any hiccups, but I know for certain Carrara works fine under the latest update.

    Edit: I have Carrara Pro and use the 64-bit version. You need administrator privileges to install; I have never needed root.

    Post edited by That Other Persona on
  • Sphinx MagooSphinx Magoo Posts: 585
    edited December 1969

    I also bought C8.5 Standard and have issues with it installing on my Mac. I also have 10.9 installed. I put a bug report in to DAZ and they offered I try the 8.5 64-bit beta version. Anyone know where this might be?

    Also, I think that after having paid money for an upgrade, I should be offered something other than a beta... >:(

  • evilproducerevilproducer Posts: 9,050
    edited December 1969

    Beta or trial? I don't think the beta version is available anymore as C8.5 has been released.

  • Sphinx MagooSphinx Magoo Posts: 585
    edited December 1969

    Yeah, I'm not sure what was going on there either, but like thomas.theurer I was looking for a 64-bit version of C8.5 and only saw a 32-bit version. DAZ's solution was to have me get C8.5Pro. I didn't really want to get C8.5Pro tho'. I wanted to cheap out and just get the standard version. Still thinking about their fix. Anyone have any advice to help tip me over one way or the other?

  • TomTomZurichTomTomZurich Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    So People !

    I solved my problem now .... and again thx for your help :)

    Its pretty easy, the 32bit version of carrara 8.5 just doesn't work at all with OSX 10.9 and even worst .... even DIM-64bit isn't able to handle the 32bit version correctly !!!
    The 32bit version of carrara will cause in every case on my OSX installation an fatal error which always ends up in an immediate software crash after entering any Reg.-Key !!

    The 64bit version works perfect, equal if you are installing with or without DIM :)

    So finally its easy .. if everything on the system is already 64bit ... use 64bit carrara ... the same thing with 32bit .... just never mix it ;)
    I know that OSX is able to handle this mixture ... but DAZ and DIM unfortunately isn't able to handle it :(


    To my person:
    I am working now about 25 years with Apple hardware and about 30 years as an software developer for embedded systems ... and after this long time I got in touch with the worst help center I ever had .... DAZ is neither providing sufficient answers or help in every way nor providing sufficient descriptions that a customer is able to chose the right software for his system ... very bad ....


    Anyway ... finally I sorted out my problem ...
    I wish you all the best and a lot of fun with 3D modeling ;)

  • That Other PersonaThat Other Persona Posts: 381
    edited September 2014

    Glad you got it sorted out. I would never have thought about 32 bit being problem... I have only used the 64 bit apps.

    Now that it is up and running, have fun!

    Post edited by That Other Persona on
  • imlauimlau Posts: 0

    Hi,

    working with Carrara 8.5 Pro (64 bit) since years on Windows, I bought it right now for MacOS running on a Macbook Pro with 10.14.2 (Mojave). Problem: As soon I want to add a character to a scene (e.g. Michael 5), the programm crashes. Here are the first lines og the log:

    Process:               Carrara [1526]
    Path:                  /Applications/DAZ 3D/*/Carrara.app/Contents/MacOS/Carrara
    Identifier:            com.eovia.carrara.macho.8.5.1.19
    Version:               8.5.1 (8.5.1.19)
    Code Type:             X86-64 (Native)
    Parent Process:        ??? [1]
    Responsible:           Carrara [1526]
    User ID:               501

    Date/Time:             2019-01-13 12:58:48.054 +0100
    OS Version:            Mac OS X 10.14.2 (18C54)
    Report Version:        12
    Anonymous UUID:        385798B5-D699-C083-D995-445025AE1C65


    Time Awake Since Boot: 2800 seconds

    System Integrity Protection: enabled

    Crashed Thread:        0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

    Exception Type:        EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
    Exception Codes:       KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000808
    Exception Note:        EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY

    Termination Signal:    Segmentation fault: 11
    Termination Reason:    Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0xb
    Terminating Process:   exc handler [1526]

    What's going on?

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